I like to be able to pull/drag images around in the photoshop work space, but unless the image is bigger than the workspace in some dimension, photoshop will not allow that unless one enters the 2nd `F' mode.
In that mode the interace automatically goes full screen, which I almost never want. With a 25 inch monitor, that just isn't necessary. At least not for the vast majority of my work.
So is there some way to make PS allow dragging of image in the 1st `F' mode, or conversely, of making 2nd `F' mode something besides full screen?
I'm not really sure if I'm numbering the modes correctly so to make sure its clear which modes I'm speaking of... I'll call the `F' mode with the black background, the 3rd `F' mode.
So starting at that 3rd `F' mode, press `F' to get to 1st and `F' again to get to 2nd. 1 and 2 in that scheme are the 2 I'm talking about.
Or just open PS and you should be in what I'm calling 1st `F' mode
In the standard screen mode (1) using tabs, just scroll your image slightly bigger than the
document window and then you can pan the document, even past the document's edges.
I don't think I'm following you here. When I have an image in PS that is NOT bigger than the workspace in tabbed view, I can't scroll at all.
Unless you are saying the same thing I said in OP, that making the image bigger than the workspace in any dimension makes it possible to drag images around in F1. What I was asking about is maybe setting something somewhere and be able to drag images whenever I feel like it with no further todo.
Do you know if it is possible to enter F2 without the application jumping to full screen.... That is really aggravating to me, why would there not be just as much use for sizing the application as desired in F2 and F3 as there is in F1? In F2/3 I can't even get to the kill [X] button in upper right corner, never mind the resize buttons that are usually right to the left of the kill button.
Oh, what version of PS is that in your screen grab? I've never seen that `Scroll all windows' button before?
Is it some customization you've done that makes the menu bar look like that?
CS4 Menu bar looks like this for me:
I don't how to do this in cs4, but cs5 (using tabs), you can move the image around in
the standard screen mode just like you can in the full screen mode with menu bar (2)
I must seem mighty dense to you, and I'm sorry about that. I still am not following your language above.
When you say:
just like you can in the full screen mode with menu bar (2) in cs4.
What do you mean by `menu bar (2)'
If I activate the hand tool as you have in the screen grab, and I see you have not pulled the image into the work space so that the frame is visible.
So, setting an image In that state in CS4 here. Now, I don't see any way at all to scroll or pull the image at all. Unless I resize the PS application to be too small to hold the image.
But then that is what I mentioned first thing in OP.
So I guess again you are saying what I've already noted as something I'm looking for a way NOT to have to do.
I'm sorry if I seem contrary... I'm just puzzled by your comments.
Sorry for the confusion. When i said scroll the image slightly bigger
than the document window, i should have said zoom the image in
(change the viewing percentage or view size or zoom ratio) using the scroll wheel on the
mouse or with the zoom tool.
You can enable zooming with the scroll wheel on the mouse by
Edit>Preferences>General>Zoom with Scroll Wheel.
In cs4 in the stardard screen mode, using tabs, zoom the image in till it's slightly bigger
than the document window and then using the hand tool you can pan the image around
even past the document edges.
The full screen mode is supposed to allow more room for the document,
so that's why you don't see some things like the frame around the document.
The second example posted was just to show that cs5 has some improvements in
stardard screen mode versus cs4.
More about viewing images and screen modes in cs4: