I am very disappointed that after all this time the the supported video camera list is still very small. What good is an editor if you are limited on what camera you can use. Regardless of being able to access the media off the memory card I wish to use the device directly as well. This inconenience tells me not to buy adobe next time.This is stated to nix any comments to use files instead.
When I first bought CS 4 I was told this list would be updated and increased in time, obviously this was incorrect. Is there any setting that will allow me to access my camera directly?
Jim and I both said Firewire is the only native camera connection
If you have a USB camera, you would use Windows Explorer (or whatever is used for file management on a Mac) to copy the folder from the camera's memory card to the data hard drive in your computer
Yes you did. Considering this new update to the question is CS5, I would think it is not out of the realm that they might be more user friendly and update this to USB. Hence, from my view point this is not an unacceptable update to the question. I am looking for a setup that will support my photography and video efforts and not one that will cost me more money. (Considering Adobes advertising for CS4 and talks with customer service before the purchase of CS4 that claimed this would work.)
I would have liked to buy a new CS5 outright. Based on this I will have to check to see what other programs are out there.
update this to USB.
While you can certainly transfer video files over a USB connection, there are few or possible even no cameras on the market that will send a live video feed over USB, so it would be pointless for an NLE to add USB capture.
I think that you might be confusing things a bit.
Capture is a process of playing a miniDV tape (SD, or HDV) through a camera, or deck, and then directly transfering the data on those tapes to PrPro via a FireWire connection. Those resulting files are instantly placed into the PrPro Project, and there is not Import involved.
Import is a process for bringing in digital files into a PrPro Project. The mechanics of getting those files onto your computer might vary slightly, depending on the camera used, but basically one would use Windows Explorer, or a similar utility, to Copy the folder structure of the memory card, including the media files, to the computer's HDD (Hard Disk Drive), and this is usually done via either a card reader (could be built in, or tethered via a USB cable), or directly from the card, through the camera, via a USB cable. THEN, one would Import those media files into the PrPro Project.
On the surface, those two processes might seem the same, but they are not. To the user, the end result of each is that the media files end up in the PrPro Project, but the mechanics are different.
Good luck, and hope that helps explain some of the differences between the two processes.
It is great and wonderful that most editors take firewire. Now, how many computers up until the time of my first post came with firewire? Not many. I just bought a mac last fall, that did not come with firewire. So, that statement does not take in the reality of what most people have.
More importantly, it was advertised that CS4 "will take your video" right off the camera. The point being here is convenience. Ann, may have given the best answer yet, that it is faster off the memory card rather then the hook up to the camera. I am used to it now.
Again, the point is what was advertised. If I needed firewire it should have been clearly stated. We live in America and if Adobe does business in America this is not something that should be found out by trail and error after purchase.
Over all I am happy with the product. I am not happy with how this was sold nor am I happy that the comments here stating I should have known or expected. That is what the sales department is for. If I should have known we get back to my first comment. I dont need to do business with Adobe if I should have known because quite frankly I am not a mind reader.
Not all customers are expert video editors. So, we rely on accurate information being told to us to make our decision.
As far as I am concerned this was not an unreasonable question nor expectation. My goal at the time was to be able to take a video and show my customers the video right then and there in a very quick manner. Sure, taking out the card is just a few seconds longer, but having a smooth presentation and only hooking up a wire is much nicer.
At this point I think I will check out other video editing programs and I will be judging them on how much valid information they readily give out.
how many computers up until the time of my first post came with firewire?
Well, if you buy a PC, then probably almost all of them. Very few motherboards don't have FireWire built in.
As far as Adobe specifying you need FireWire, you have to remember that Premiere Pro is a professional product geared towards professionals, who generally have sufficient education and/or experience with video production to know how things work.
In the system requirements for CS4 it does say you need firewire for DV and HDV, but only for windows and not for the Mac.
Not many mobo have firewire on board.