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non-standard hyphenation with Hunspell

Aug 29, 2011 4:58 PM

The use of the Hunspell dictionaries to InDesign has been a great addition. However, I've encountered one problem (a bug in the plugin?). The non-standard hyphenation rules as described here

 

http://sunet.dl.sourceforge.net/project/hunspell/Hyphen/documentation/ tb87nemeth.pdf

 

doesn't work properly.

 

In the Catalan hyphenation dictionary, for example, we have these rules:

 

 

% patrons per a la ela geminada

l·3l/=,2,1

ŀ3l/l=,1,1

 

I.e., the middot disappears if a hyphen is inserted.

 

I get nonsense results in words with a middot, and the middot doesn't disappear in the text:

intel~~·l~~igè~~ncia

 

It should be something like:

intel~~·li~~gèn~~cia

 

Is this happening in other languages? Is there a bug in the Hunspell plugin?

1411 Views   6 Replies   Latest reply: mindsteam, Sep 1, 2011 2:44 AM
 
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  • Peter Spier
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    1. Peter Spier,
    Aug 30, 2011 2:42 AM   in reply to jortolafont
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    I can't answer your question, but I've moved your post from Feature Requests to the general discusions area where you might find someone with some experience.

     
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    2. jortolafont,
    Aug 30, 2011 5:31 AM   in reply to Peter Spier
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    I expect the answer to come from the developers of the Adobe Hunspell Plugin.

     

    The same problem is found in the Hungarian hyphenation. This issue is critical at least for Catalan and Hungarian, and it makes the Hunspell Plugin unusable for these languages.

     

    The Proximity Dictionary for Catalan hyphenation has many problems, and the Hunspell would be a great (and customizable) solution.

     
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    3. Peter Spier,
    Aug 30, 2011 5:42 AM   in reply to jortolafont
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    jortolafont wrote:

     

    I expect the answer to come from the developers of the Adobe Hunspell Plugin.

     

    You're only talking to other InDesign users here. You should contact the plugin developers directly, but please post anything you learn here for the benefit of other users facing the same issues.

     
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  • Harbs.
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    4. Harbs.,
    Aug 30, 2011 6:46 AM   in reply to Peter Spier
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    I aasume he's talking about the Hunspell support in CS5.5.

     

    I don't know wnything about the hyphenation rules you are talking about. Does it work correctly in OpenOffice using the same dictionary?

     
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    5. jortolafont,
    Aug 30, 2011 7:13 AM   in reply to Harbs.
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    Yes, it works correctly in OpenOffice using the same dictionary.

     
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  • mindsteam
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    6. mindsteam,
    Sep 1, 2011 2:44 AM   in reply to jortolafont
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    Hello,

     

    Our third party hyphenation product, MindHyph, can handle this. It adds support for the Hunspell Hyphen library for CS3-CS5.5

     

    http://www.mindsteam.com/products/mindhyph/index.html

     

    In the intel·ligència example, it's not possible to truly represent the hyphenation behavior in the edit box since it depends on where the word breaks.

     

    With this example we have 3 hyphen points. In the first break, we strip the  · character, in the second two leave the symbol. Like so,

     

    intel-ligència

    intel·li-gència

    intel·ligèn-cia

     

    Here's a screen shot illustrating this in InDesign.

     

    mindhyph_ca.png

     

    Best regards,

    Heath Horton

    Mindsteam Software

     
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