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Sandee Cohen
Sandee Cohen
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Desktop Viewer and iPad Adobe Viewer conflict on video previews

Sep 19, 2011 2:31 PM

Steps:

 

Place .mov file in InDesign layout. Ignore the warnings about .mov file not for SWF output, only PDF. Be sad there is no poster.

 

Place .f4v file on same page in InDesign. Be happy that there are no warnings. Be happy there is a poster.

 

Use desktop Content viewer to preview the page. The .f4v file plays as desired. Image moves with controller. The .mov file controller moves but there is only a black screen, no image.

 

Use Adobe Viewer on iPad to preview the page. The .f4v file is a static picture with no video controls or images. The .mov file plays but there was no poster.

 

I was told that the desktob Content viewer is only for the most "raw" previews of the Overlay effects, but it seems that this is not quite correct. If you go by what the Content viewer shows you would not place the .mov file.

 

But if you place what does preview in the Content viewer, the .f4v file doesn't play on the iPad.

 

Based on what the desktop Content viewer displayed, I thought the only format that would work on the iPad would be the .f4v. But given the love between Apple and Adobe regarding Flash that didn't seem to be possible.

 

I've had someone else confirm these findings.

 

Any thoughts?

1672 Views   7 Replies   Latest reply: TSBurman, Oct 10, 2011 9:32 AM
 
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  • Johannes Eckert
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    1. Johannes Eckert,
    Sep 19, 2011 2:36 PM   in reply to Sandee Cohen
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    For me, mp4 videos worked best.

    Use one of the many video converters, or Adobe Media Encoder (comming with

    Premiere/AfterEffects) to transcode your video into h.264 mp4 video.

     

    —Johannes

     
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  • Tomek Kuczborski
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    2. Tomek Kuczborski,
    Sep 19, 2011 3:19 PM   in reply to Sandee Cohen
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    Sandee,

    right now I am going through the process of finding best solution to cater for both PDF and a .folio file with a single movie.

    My findings are different than yours. A single .mp4 file works perfectly  in DPS (Adobe Content Viewer)  but fails to return to usable state after playing once in PDF. It just leaves a white or black rectangle without possibility to play agin after clicking.

    Any combination with poster frame works OK in both media. If I embed the controller, Ican restart the movie in PDF, but my goal isto keep it clean, as the movies are very short spots in ads.

     

    Desktop Viewer works OK with  .mp4 files, too.

     

    Cheers,

    Tomek

     
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  • Andrew Smith
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    3. Andrew Smith,
    Sep 20, 2011 8:14 AM   in reply to Sandee Cohen
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    Sandee,

     

    You're best sticking with .mp4 files, at least for now.

     

    http://help.adobe.com/en_US/digitalpubsuite/using/WS9293e1fb3b977c5c73 657495129f66e490f-7ffb.html

    "Supported video and audio files you place in InDesign play when tapped in the Viewer. For video files, use a format that is compatible with Apple iTunes, such as an MP4 file with h.264 encoding. For audio files, use MP3 files."

     

    http://indesignsecrets.com/picking-the-best-video-format-for-digital-p ublishing.php

    "What is the best video format to use for most digital publishing output? Surprisingly, there is usually one answer—H.264 files. H.264 files are the most widely supported: Adobe InDesign CS 5 and 5.5 let you place them, and you can control their viewing with the Media panel. They are supported in Adobe Flash Player, and they are embedded into Acrobat 9 and X, and Reader 9 and X. Apple has supported the format on its very popular devices (iPad, iPhone and iPod Touch), and it’s equally viewable on Macintosh or Windows computers. When you view videos on YouTube, Vimeo, or other sources on the internet, you’re viewing H.264."

     

    Andrew

     
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  • Sandee Cohen
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    4. Sandee Cohen,
    Sep 20, 2011 8:24 AM   in reply to Andrew Smith
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    OK, I get that you all want me to use MP4 with h.264 encoding.

     

    So HOW do I convert my .MOV file to MP4 using Adobe Media Encoder?

     

    I can't find a preset for it and the only h.264 setting doesn't keep the dimensions of my movie.

     

    Please walk me through this as if I am a 6 year old with ADHD.

     
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  • Bob Levine
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    5. Bob Levine,
    Sep 20, 2011 8:37 AM   in reply to Sandee Cohen
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    Try this: http://handbrake.fr/downloads.php

     

     

     

    Bob

     
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  • Jean-Claude Tremblay
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    6. Jean-Claude Tremblay,
    Sep 20, 2011 10:46 AM   in reply to Bob Levine
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    Sandee, you can find some presets fro iPad with Media Encoder 5.5... But like Bob, I do use HandBrake most of the time! ;-)

     
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  • TSBurman
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    7. TSBurman,
    Oct 10, 2011 9:32 AM   in reply to Andrew Smith
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    Strange. After the recent update to the DPS tools, MP4 files are misbehaving. I can place them, but no controls show up in the video pane. They'll play in the content viewer, but where they actually show up is a crapshoot. MOV files behave fine (video pane shows controls in InDesign), but their huge filesize rules them out, and I don't think they'd work on the iPad anyway.

     

    Anyone else having this peculiar problem? MP4s were fine before the tools were updated.

     

    Tushar

     
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