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No tool bar in Indesign - can you reinstall plugins? How?

Oct 28, 2011 5:04 PM

Tags: #cs5.5 #plugins

Hi

 

Recently downloaded the latest updates from Indesign - all EXE and ink files in my computer were taken over by Extension Manager. While getting a techo to fix this - I noticed he deleted a few plugins in Extension Manager, at least I think that's what he did.

 

Computer now fine, but when re-opening Indesign.

 

1. No toolbox on left sidebar - tried TAB got nothing.

2. Menu along the top only appears if you click on a text box in previous document

 

Obviously no toolbar - can't put any text box or images box etc into new document.

 

When opening Indesign this is what I get.

 

eg? Can't load Dynamic documentswi.apln  transform panel

Install Transform Panel Plug-in, restart Indesign

 

Also for Graphic Panel, Output miscui.apln requires Swatches plug-in and a few others object style, transparency ui, text colour panel, text wrao, layout adjustment the list goes on.

 

And never did get that new update - overlay creator uploaded and working - stalls says it can't open after zip file loads.

 

A/ Do I need to just reinstall the plug-ins they are asking for - how would I do this? Any help appreciated.

B/ How do I get the new upgrade working if I can't run the zip file?

 

Thanks

 
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  • John Hawkinson
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    Oct 28, 2011 8:25 PM   in reply to nearpost

    Not sure what you mean by "ink" files.

     

    A/ Do I need to just reinstall the plug-ins they are asking for - how would I do this? Any help appreciated.

    Step 1: Trash, Replace, Reset, or Restore the application Preferences: http://forums.adobe.com/thread/526990.

    It probably won't help, but it's fast and easy and worth trying.

     

    Otherwise, you should Uninstall InDesign (use Add/Remove Programs to remove it) and then reinstall it.

    Deleting plugins is inadvisable.


    B/ How do I get the new upgrade working if I can't run the zip file?

    Sorry, what do you mean by "run the zip file"? Which zip file and what problem are you having uncompressing it?

     

    I'm not a DPS person so I can't advise you about the Folio/Overlay tools, but I would make sure you take the InDesign update without them before you start adding them into the mix.

     
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    Oct 29, 2011 6:15 AM   in reply to John Hawkinson

    John Hawkinson wrote:

     

     

    Otherwise, you should Uninstall InDesign (use Add/Remove Programs to remove it) and then reinstall it.

    This installation sounds so baddly mangled that if you find you need to uninstall you should probably also run the CS5 clean tool before reinstalling: Resolve installation problems with CS5 Cleaner Tool

     
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  • John Hawkinson
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    Oct 29, 2011 6:34 PM   in reply to nearpost

    My Windows 7 says I can uninstall - but doesn't give me an option to reinstall.

    Sorry, what? Is there no Add/Remove Programs?

     

     

    Also download file is 5gb for the whole Master Collection and my download allowance is about that for a whole month - is there anyway I can get another copy of Indesign only and reinstall it. Sounds like reinstallation is the go.

    Umm.

    Generally speaking the expectation is that you either can download as much as you want, or that you downloaded it and saved it (if you purchased it electronically). You don't still have the installer saved on your hard drive?

     

    You can download the InDesign trial installer, which is indeed the same as the regular InDesign installer.

    But.

    I am not sure that it will play nice with your Master Collection serial number, though. Worst case, I guess, it will only work for 30 days.

     
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    Oct 29, 2011 9:21 PM   in reply to nearpost

    You will almost certainly have to uninstall InDesign first, but the installer should tell you. Try running the installer and see what it says.

     
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  • John Hawkinson
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    Oct 29, 2011 11:36 PM   in reply to nearpost

    Hrmm.

     

    Well, if the relevant InDesign plugin is disabled (whatever provides the toolbar), it can cause this.

    There are two ways the plugin could be disabled (at least) -- the file could actually be removed, or the PlugInConfig.txt file could include a line that tells InDesign to ignore it.

    Now, I thought that resetting your preferences would have reset the PlugInConfig.txt file. Perhaps not. You should be able to find it in your InDesign preferences folder (consult the preferences resetting instructions for where to find it).

    Also, you could run the Extension Manager and see if it lists anything as disabled...

     
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  • John Hawkinson
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    Oct 30, 2011 12:40 AM   in reply to nearpost

    Think I'm out of my depth in terms of ability to follow your instructions and experiment. InDesign plugin disabled makes sense - but where to find how to fix it based on your thoughts above, you've lost me!!

     

    Sorry. In one of the myriad of directories, that file may exist. If it does, you may safely remove it -- then InDesign will use all installed plugin files. (If removing files makes you nervous, as it should, then you can just move it to the Desktop or some other temporary location or name so you could always put it back.)

     

    As for Extension Manager I ran it and while everything listed against InDesign is ticked, some are greyed out but they are ticked - (Aside: I can't see any point in this program - I open it and have no idea what's it's supposed or not supposed to do. Other than uninstall stuff. Don't get it's usefulness.)

    I think it's not quite fully baked but that they're planning to improve the situation in the future. Think of it as a work-in-progress.

     

     

    Pretty frustrating this end - have no idea what to do next. Guess whilst I can look for the plugin's txt file - wouldn't know what to do if I did or did not find them!

    Yes, do that. Find it and remove it.

     

     

    What would you suggest? Buy another Indesign? Don't really want to do that -

    It also won't help.

    Another computer would work. Oh, you might also try another user account on the same computer.

    The preference files I'm thinking of should be per-user (I think).

    Alternatively I can "open" txt and image boxes in Indesign by placing a photo or copying some txt from word - then delete both but the boxes remain:) Awesome Adobe 2011:)

    Gotta say, I don't think this one is quite Adobe's fault. I suppose they gave you (or your technician) enough rope to hang yourself, but it's not like you should expect the program to work if you randomly go in break off a few pieces on the inside and toss them in the trash...

     
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    Oct 30, 2011 3:51 AM   in reply to nearpost

    nearpost wrote:

     

    http://indesignsecrets.com/rebuilding-indesign-preferences.php

     

    John found this page - did what it said and hey presto the tool bar has returned!!! This boy is happy!

    That was actually the very first thing John suggested......

    "Step 1: Trash, Replace, Reset, or Restore the application Preferences: http://forums.adobe.com/thread/526990."

     
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  • John Hawkinson
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    Oct 30, 2011 1:51 PM   in reply to nearpost

    That thread didn't open so although John suggested it - I couldn't find the thread.

    FYI, in the future, please tell us if you don't understand something we recommend or suggest.

    I told you to do a bunch of things that I would never have done if you had reset your preferences -- and I assumed that you had done what we asked!

     

    Thanks.

     

    p.s.: take the updates.

     
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    Oct 30, 2011 2:32 PM   in reply to John Hawkinson

    John,

     

    There's is, indeed, something odd about the link you are posting -- it tries to go to http://forums.adobe.com/526990 instead of http://forums.adobe.com/THREAD/526990 so you might want ot fix the shorcut on your end.

     
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  • John Hawkinson
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    Oct 30, 2011 2:41 PM   in reply to Peter Spier

    Peter: Spesssssshial. I'm pretty sure I just cut-and-pasted it from the Overview section of the ID forum, so I have no explanation. Seems like it would take special effort to get the text right but the link wrong. Something to watch out for!

     
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    Oct 30, 2011 3:08 PM   in reply to John Hawkinson

    Very strange. The link on the main page definitely works I just tried it, and it copies correctly here, too.

     
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