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How do I import .AVI files into Premiere Pro CS5?

Dec 26, 2011 5:11 PM

Tags: #cs5 #help #avi #missing #pro #mac #premiere #import #codec

Hello

 

I have just got myself a new Toshiba Camileo X100 and it shoots in 1080i60 and the raw video files are in an .AVI format there are also backups stored as thm.AVI. When I try to import these files into Premiere on my Macbook Pro I get an error message saying "codec missing or unavailable."

 

 

 

What do I need to do to be able to Import these files? I have searched this forum and googled everything I could think of. One post suggested trying VLC so I tried it that way but my mp4 files that converted through VLC were only sound files instead of both video and audio. I need some sort of way to either convert or import a different way without losing much quality....
This is really bothering me, help would be appreciated.

 
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    Dec 26, 2011 8:14 PM   in reply to ZacHutchings
     
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    Feb 25, 2012 2:49 AM   in reply to ZacHutchings

    I am having the same problem with Premiere Pro CS5.5 on Win 7 with an avi from the RD32II 1080p .h264 Sport Cam from Redleaf. There is no info on the Redleaf website (www.hkredleaf.com) about the codec.

     

    The file plays in Windows Media Player and VideoLAN Player, but Prem Pro imports the audio only.

     

    These are the file properties revealed by MediaInfo:

     

    AVI, 1 video stream AVC, 1 audio stream ADPCM

     

    video: 1920*1080 (16:9), at 29.970 fps, AVC (Main@L4.0)(CABAC / 4 Ref Frames)

    audio: 192kbps, 48.0 KHz, 4 bits, 1 channel, ADPCM (Intel)

     

    I downloaded various ffmeg zip files and extracted them.

         FFmbc-0.7-rc5

         ffmpeg-git-b6ff81d-win64-static from ffmpeg.zeranoe.com

              and based on the link from MediaInfo,

         last_x264 from VLan which appears to be an encoder and not decoder.

     

    Not having install instructions (or anything specifically relevant to Win7) that I could find in those zip files I do not know if the codec has been installed correctly or not.

     

    I tried the avi2mp4 BAT file aproach in the same folder as the file, copied the ffmpeg.exe into windows system and system 32 folders, and the BAT file.

     

    Nothing! Same result - just the audio.

     

    Adobe Media Encoder's conversion yield's black vision.

     

    Can anyone tell me if I am doing something wrong or is it simply an incompatibility with Prem Pro?

     
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    Feb 25, 2012 3:13 AM   in reply to Ric_F

    Before you corrupt your whole system by trying to download codecs or codec packs, often requiring a complete format of the boot disk and full installation of OS and programs, Google for external converters to make that material editable.

     
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    Feb 25, 2012 8:16 AM   in reply to Ric_F
    Can anyone tell me if I am doing something wrong

     

    Yes, your choice of camera.  Things will work better if you pair your professional level software with a professional level camera that records to a standardized recording format.

     

    For this media, you might try a consumer level editor.  They're often more forgiving about formats.

     
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    Feb 25, 2012 11:17 AM   in reply to Ric_F

    @ Ric_F

     

    I downloaded a the 9 second test clip for your camera from this site.

     

    http://www.techmoan.com/blog/2012/1/8/the-rd32ii-1080p-h264-sport-cam. html

     

    Premiere would only show audio.

     

    I was able to convert it with VLC to a .mp4 file that would play fine and edit.

     

    Not exactly the best way but at least it can be done.

     

    GLenn

     

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    Feb 25, 2012 11:26 AM   in reply to ZacHutchings

    When using VLC make sure to type the .mp4 part in the destination file name.

     

    See if these setting work for you.

     

    GLenn

     

     

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    Feb 25, 2012 4:38 PM   in reply to ZacHutchings

    @ Harm Millaard - I appreciate the caution. Not only do I use restore points and back up data, but I have a clone of the system HDD as well. A converter is associated with extra time and quality loss, I want to be able to import the file directly. A download of the correct codec would allow that.

     

    @Jim Simon: Oh, how I wish I could control the capture of everything I work with! It is not my choice of camera. As a professional using this level of software I have to be able to accept files the clients supply and work with those files. I'd prefer to be able to use all the footage supplied in the one program, Premiere Pro CS5.5. However, if that is not possible and you have some pointers on consumer level edit programs that accept this file format I would appreciate it.

     

    @Glenn / Powered by Design. Thanks, a useful tip. Although conversion is not my preferred solution, as a workaround I tested VLC Media Player's conversion with mixed results. Yes, a file is output that is viewable and editable in PremPro. However, VLC cut the last second of the footage off. When customising the settings of the output file to approximate the same bitrate as the original file the result was totally unusable, just a mess of pixelations, block colours and so on. I'd need to experiment some more with VLC before I get a result that is satisfactory. Any advice would be useful.

     

    I appreciate all the comments from everyone, but right now the question remains unanswered - how can I import this avi directly into Prem Pro?

     
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    Feb 25, 2012 7:30 PM   in reply to Ric_F

    Good catch on the 2 second thing.  I never cought that being it was never my footage and didn't notice it.

     

    Looking online I see others were having the same problem with it cutting off the last 2 seconds.  Someone said there to try the new version 2.0

     

    I went to the VLC site and downloaded the newer version.

     

    After that I tried it again and it worked without losing the last part.

     

    Maybe try this and see if it works.

     

    GLenn

     

     

    EDIT:

     

    File played fine till loading into Premiere.   I guess something else is wrong.  Wish I could help.

     

    GLenn

     

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    Feb 26, 2012 3:47 AM   in reply to Powered by Design

    Thanks GLenn, I am still baffled by this one too.

    Is there someone from Adobe monitoring this forum who can help?

    I'll email Redleaf Technology and see if they have an answer.

    Ric

     
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    Feb 26, 2012 5:35 AM   in reply to Jim Simon

    Jim Simon wrote:

     

    Can anyone tell me if I am doing something wrong

     

    Yes, your choice of camera.  Things will work better if you pair your professional level software with a professional level camera that records to a standardized recording format.

     

    For this media, you might try a consumer level editor.  They're often more forgiving about formats.

    It's is not my camera nor my choice of camera. I am dealing with a number of files supplied by the client. If you have an answer such as the codec or which edit software will work, I'd appreciate it.

     
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    Feb 26, 2012 6:04 AM   in reply to Ric_F

    The only way I managed to edit with the material in "native" form was to demux the video from the original AVI file to a .264 file using MPC Home Cinema (Media Player Classic). I then imported both the original AVI, to use for audio and the new .264 to use for video. It's a bit cumbersome, but at least the quality is not degraded. Works for now, until maybe CS6 will support it...?

     
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    Feb 26, 2012 7:17 AM   in reply to Magnus Allgurén

    .....  demux the video from the original AVI file to a .264 file using MPC Home Cinema (Media Player Classic).

    I have the latest version of MC Home Cinema build 1.6.0.4014 . The file plays well in that media player. How do you demux and export a .264 file?

     
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    Feb 26, 2012 7:27 AM   in reply to Ric_F

    To the best of my knowledge, Pr still does not support H.264 in an AVI file.  Your best bet is to run it through VirtualDub and convert it to an AVI file with a lossless codec like Lagarith or UT.  Then use the new AVI file in Pr.

     

    Links:

    VirtualDub download (at SourceForge) - virtualdub.org

    Lagarith Lossless Video Codec

    Codecs.com :: Download Ut Video Codec Suite 10.2.4

     

    -Jeff

     
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    Feb 26, 2012 7:34 AM   in reply to Ric_F

    In MPC go to File- >Utils->DSM Converter

    Right click in the window that pops up and select Add File.

    You will see a list of available streams. Right click the stream you want and select demux.

     

    -Although, Jeff's solution might be better for you, since you end up with one properly editable file instead!

     
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    Feb 26, 2012 7:39 AM   in reply to Jeff Bellune

    Jeff,

    I just tried opening it with VirtualDub and it won't do it for me... You seem to need a third party codec to do that.

     
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    Feb 26, 2012 7:57 AM   in reply to Magnus Allgurén

    What version?  I used the 32-bit version of 1.9.11 to open one of the test clips from the site Glenn linked to and it opened and played just fine in VirtualDub.

     

    -Jeff

     

    EDIT: I do have the x264 vfw codec installed, so maybe that's the key.  Here's a link:

     

    x264vfw | Free Audio & Video software downloads at SourceForge.net

     
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    Feb 26, 2012 7:59 AM   in reply to Jeff Bellune

    Me too!

     

    vdub.jpg

     
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    Feb 26, 2012 8:02 AM   in reply to Magnus Allgurén

    In MPC go to File- >Utils->DSM Converter

    Hi Magnus. In the MPC Home Cinema x64 version I have the Utils menu option does not seem to exist.

     
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    Feb 26, 2012 8:14 AM   in reply to Ric_F

    Does it look like this?

     

    MPC.jpg

     

    Edit: I see on the MPC web site that their version is a lot newer than mine. I use V 1.3.1249.0

     

    I can zip it up for you if you'd like!

     

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    Feb 26, 2012 8:08 AM   in reply to Jeff Bellune

    Jeff I installed your codec and works perfectly for the video. Vdub plays the audio fine, but when exporting to Lagarith the audio will not playback in Premiere. It only gives a blank waveform. Video plays back fine though,

     
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    Feb 26, 2012 8:23 AM   in reply to Magnus Allgurén

    no, like this...

    MPC_HC_screen.jpg

     

    maybe the x32 version is different...

     
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    Feb 26, 2012 8:23 AM   in reply to Magnus Allgurén

    I suppose I should mention that Pr doesn't like raw PCM audio in an AVI file, either.

     

    Try this setting for the audio in VirtualDub:

     

    PrNoLikeADPCM.png

    It'll re-wrap the audio in a way that is Premiere Pro friendly.

     

    -Jeff

     
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    Feb 26, 2012 8:27 AM   in reply to Jeff Bellune

    Sir, you are correct!

     

    I guess this will conclude this session of troubleshooting?

     
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    Feb 26, 2012 8:39 AM   in reply to Magnus Allgurén

    I guess this will conclude this session of troubleshooting?

     

    I think that's up to Ric.

     

    However, I'm glad it's sorted on your system.

     

    -Jeff

     
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    Feb 26, 2012 8:55 AM   in reply to Magnus Allgurén

    I use V 1.3.1249.0

     

    I can zip it up for you if you'd like!

    Yes please, a copy of the earlier version would be welcome.

     
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    Feb 26, 2012 8:59 AM   in reply to Ric_F

    I sent you a private message!

     
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    Feb 26, 2012 9:06 AM   in reply to Jeff Bellune

    I really appreciate your help in getting this workaround together.

     

    O.K. I have downloaded all the codecs and installed VirtualDub. The file plays with audio but unevenly.

     

    In the menu, under Audio, "Compression..." is ghosted and inaccessible.

     

    The avi file exported appears in PremPro, but the playback is uneven - slows down and speeds up. Is that a setting that needs to be tweaked?

     
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    Feb 26, 2012 12:07 PM   in reply to Ric_F

    Full processing.jpg

    Before you select your compression, you have to select "Full Processing" in the Audio menu. After that you can select your audio compression.

     

    video.jpg

    ...and under Video, select "Fast recompress" for slightly faster conversion.

     

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    Feb 26, 2012 3:19 PM   in reply to Magnus Allgurén

    Thanks for that.

     

    Everything seems to be happening as it should now, for a work-around that is!

     

    The primary question still remains unresolved - "how to directly import this type of AVI / H.264 mpeg4 directly into Premiere Pro CS5.5?"

     

    Is there a consensus that says "Not possible"?

     

    I have emailed the manufacturer of the camera, Redleaf Technology, Hong Kong. Being sent on a weekend I would not expect an answer immediately, but will post their response once I receive one.

     
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    Feb 26, 2012 4:22 PM   in reply to Ric_F

    I would have to say CS5 & CS5.5 probably wont ever get that function as CS6 is almost here.

     

    As people have been starting to use DSLR and cameras to shoot video more and more they have added those to its tools.  Maybe if more people need it, it will get added.  Its a demand thing.

     

     

    GLenn

     
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    Feb 27, 2012 7:09 AM   in reply to Powered by Design

    GLenn,

     

    You are probably correct. At this time, the wrapping of the H.264 in the AVI format is non-standard. I doubt that Adobe will rewrite things, until that is adopted by enough camera mfgrs. as a standard, but rather doubt that will happen, nor do I feel that it should become a standard, as there are plenty of standard containers for H.264. Not sure why a very few camera mfgrs. choose to do things in such an odd way, but they do.

     

    Ric, good luck,

     

    Hunt

     
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    Feb 27, 2012 10:40 PM   in reply to Bill Hunt

    Hi Hunt,

     

    Whether it is a non-standard AVI format or not, I would still like to be able to handle any format the clients throw at me within Premiere Pro.

    I have yet to receive a reply from the manufacturer (but it is less than one business day in Hong Kong since I sent my email to them).

     

    Ric

     
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