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Why No Help From Adobe

Aug 3, 2006 4:17 PM

People keep posting they can't get the Flash Player to download and Adobe sits silent. Come on. Doesn't anyone from Adobe check these postings to see what's going on. I'll go looking for an email point to get something directly to someone at Adobe, but you'd think they would post some feedback. I'm a consumer. I want to consume. But NOOOOOOOOO..... A lot of companies should be asking for some fees back from Adobe cause they're costing them advertising dollars.
 
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    Aug 3, 2006 5:56 PM   in reply to 2pid
    hey man, they're making money...so why should they care???? Name of the game baby, Name of the game!!! as long as they have all their other bases covered, why the FU#k should they care!!!!
     
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    Aug 3, 2006 8:12 PM   in reply to 2pid
    So .. have you called Adobe support? That what one should do if you want
    support from a company .. not via posts in a user-community forum (even if
    adobe are nice enough to host it) .. this is not a way to get support from
    Adboe, nor is it any sort of offical channel to them. If you have REAL
    problems that other users in these forums cannot solve, then contacting
    Adobe support for official help makes sense. Good luck with it.
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    Aug 4, 2006 6:22 AM   in reply to 2pid
    So this sham of a forum is just a bone they're tossing to us users, hoping that we'll be able to entertain ourselves?

    These aren't some petty suggestions we're throwing out here. These are fatal errors in Adobe's software. At the very least, Adobe ought to update their FAQ with these serious (and widespread) issues we're bringing to their attention. But if they don't even bother to skim these forums, I guess it shows how much they are committed to resolving problems.

    Adobe ceased to be a software design company years ago. Nowadays they merely eat up the smaller companies, stick their logo on top of an otherwise good product and proceed to mangle it to bits.

    lol. I bet if I start flaming these forums with profanity and spam, we'll get some action real fast. But as for legit software issues? "Please hold. Current wait time: ETERNITY."
     
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    Aug 4, 2006 5:08 PM   in reply to 2pid
    > So this sham of a forum is just a bone they're tossing to us users, hoping
    > that
    > we'll be able to entertain ourselves?

    Yes .. its a community forum .. its not an official help channel. Here you
    are only talking to other users (although sometimes someone from adobe may
    show themselves, it is not an official present)

    If you have problems that you think Adobe should be dealing with directly,
    then it is best to contact them directly. Of course, they may charge you
    for support.
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    Aug 6, 2006 2:58 PM   in reply to Newsgroup_User

    These forums are useless, I've posted in two threads asking for help with a bug in Flash Player with no response from Adobe. Not only am I annoyed it's messed up my OS with a "Cannot find Macromedia Flash" message all the time, I can't even tell them about it as there is no email address I can find to report bugs, and asking for help in the correct places (here) gets ignored. Adobe are pathetic
     
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    Aug 6, 2006 3:32 PM   in reply to Newsgroup_User
    > These forums are useless

    No .. you are useless, as you have completely ignored what was said here
    (that you replied to). This is NOT a support forum for reporting bugs to
    Adobe and getting help directly from Adobe. This is a community forum for
    adobe / macromedia customers / users to discuss issues and help each other.

    > I've posted in two threads asking for help with a
    > bug in Flash Player with no response from Adobe.

    Of course there was no response. This is NOT a support forum for reporting
    bugs to Adobe and getting help directly from Adobe. This is a community
    forum for adobe / macromedia customers / users to discuss issues and help
    each other.

    > Not only am I annoyed it's messed up my OS with a "Cannot find Macromedia
    > Flash" message all the time, I
    > can't even tell them about it as there is no email address I can find to
    > report
    > bugs

    Did you ever BOTHER going to the www.adobe.com web site and click on
    'support' on the main web page .. and from there 'contact support'. Its not
    that hard.

    > and asking for help in the correct places (here) gets ignored.

    This is NOT the correct place to ask Adobe for help. This is NOT a support
    forum for reporting bugs to Adobe and getting help directly from Adobe.
    This is a community forum for adobe / macromedia customers / users to
    discuss issues and help each other.

    > Adobe are pathetic

    No .. you are pathetic and ignorant. Learn to read and use a bit of common
    sense .. maybe then you'll get somewhere.

    BTW: .. in case you missed it again... This is NOT a support forum for
    reporting bugs to Adobe and getting help directly from Adobe. This is a
    community forum for adobe / macromedia customers / users to discuss issues
    and help each other.
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    Aug 6, 2006 4:42 PM   in reply to Newsgroup_User

    Seems like no one else agrees with you Jeckyl and who the f*** do you think you are talking to me like that ?

    Have you clicked on menus the top ? If I'm not mistaken these FORUMS come under the heading of SUPPORT

    Yes I went to contact Adobe and there is NO email address to report their bugs. I filled in a form to which I got NO RESPONSE, therefore I came to the forums to ask for help which is under support.

    Are you suggesting I pay to contact them by phone to inform them of a bug which is their fault ??

    Check the other posts, I'm not the only person with the "Cannot find Macromedia Flash", seems lots of other people are less than happy too.

    Instead of ranting at me, try and offer some help





     
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    Aug 6, 2006 6:10 PM   in reply to hexagon4
    It's been probably 2 months and still i have not been able to download any flash player and i am furious! Do you know how many websites one can't go to w/o flash player!!! I would call if i got a number but it probably wouldn't help, those computer help lines never help and end up causing more problems! It would be very nice if adobe could come up with one solution because everybody seems to be having the same problem! By the time they eventually do fix it, it will be time to download the next version! It's never ending and quite frustrating!!!
     
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    Aug 6, 2006 7:07 PM   in reply to cutie815

    I agree cutie815, it seems Adobe just don't want to know.

    According to *Jeckyl*, who seems to like shouting at people and throwing his weight about, this isn't a "support forum" so we can't even ask for help. As for this being a "community forum for users to discuss issues and help each other" that obvious doesn't include discussing bugs and asking for help in removing an annoying popup caused by Adobe software which I and many other are reporting they have.

    I couldn't find any contact either, I can see it's not just me wasting their time here.

    I would have thought a forum on the website of the authors listed under "support" would have been the correct place to come and find the answer to the problems we all have. We are all finding it frustrating. I'm annoyed too I can't get any help to a problem which isn't even my fault, it's been caused by installing Flash Player 9. Correct me if I'm wrong but it was written by Adobe who are not offering a solution to anyone asking for help, when you ask you get shouted when you try and point out no one is giving any help.

    I'd like to know from *Jeckyl* how users can "discuss issues and help each other" when no one can even get the software to work ??




     
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    Aug 6, 2006 9:25 PM   in reply to Newsgroup_User
    > Seems like no one else agrees with you Jeckyl and who the f*** do you
    > think
    > you are talking to me like that ?

    Oh .. asterisks !!!

    Everyone really should agree with me, cause I'm right .. I've not yet seen
    someone herre who agrees with you .. that this forum is somehow a way to get
    support from Adobe .. thats because its not. As much as you may carry on
    about how pathetic it is and how Adboe are ignoring you .. it really is your
    own fault if you don't post things in the right place .. especially after
    being told that that is what you've done.

    > Have you clicked on menus the top ? If I'm not mistaken these FORUMS come
    > under the heading of SUPPORT

    Have you clicked on menus the top and READ what is on the page you selected
    ? If I'm not mistaken it says

    "Adobe Online Forums are for the Adobe community's peer-to-peer discussions
    of both Adobe and formerly Macromedia products. Please note that these
    forums are not an official customer support channel for Adobe. If you
    require direct assistance or prefer to contact Support directly, please use
    our paid support programs or complimentary product support for registered
    users."

    Oh .. did you not read that when you clicked on the forums page? Its right
    at the top .. can't miss it

    > Yes I went to contact Adobe and there is NO email address to report their
    > bugs. I filled in a form to which I got NO RESPONSE, therefore I came to
    > the
    > forums to ask for help which is under support.

    Well .. there's nothing we can do about getting Adboe to respond to you.
    And attacking them in this forum does nothing except make you look rather
    silly. Try RINGING them .. be proactive instead of whining to other Adobe
    customers.

    > Are you suggesting I pay to contact them by phone to inform them of a bug
    > which is their fault ??

    Yes .. if that's what's required .. because this isn't the place to do it.
    And if it is a genuine bug, then (I think) they do not (or should not)
    charge you. They may at least be able to point you in the right place to
    find the information you need.

    > Check the other posts, I'm not the only person with the "Cannot find
    > Macromedia Flash", seems lots of other people are less than happy too.

    Yes .. there are lots of people who can't do it. Hopefully MM will come up
    with a solution and make it available as a technote.

    > Instead of ranting at me, try and offer some help

    I'm not adobe .. I can't help you.

    And instead of ranting at me, ask in the appropriate places for help
    directly from Adobe, if that is what you want. Don't expect to ask for help
    if you ask in the wrong places.


     
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    Aug 6, 2006 9:29 PM   in reply to cutie815
    > According to *Jeckyl*, who seems to like shouting at people and throwing
    > his
    > weight about, this isn't a "support forum" so we can't even ask for help.

    Its not a support forum
    You CAN ask for help, and those other customers here who are able to help
    you will do so
    It is NOT a place to ask Adboe for help though.

    You may not like it .. but get used to it, cause that's just the way it is.

    > As for this being a "community forum for users to discuss issues and help
    > each
    > other" that obvious doesn't include discussing bugs and asking for help in
    > removing an annoying popup caused by Adobe software which I and many other
    > are
    > reporting they have.

    Of course it does

    > I couldn't find any contact either, I can see it's not just me wasting
    > their
    > time here.

    Probably is, if what you want ot do is talk to Adboe .. this is not (to
    repeat my self for those who do not understand / listen) the place to talk
    directly to adboe and get support from them

    > I would have thought a forum on the website of the authors listed under
    > "support" would have been the correct place to come and find the answer to
    > the
    > problems we all have.

    Only if the people here (other users) have a solution for you.

    > We are all finding it frustrating.

    I'm sure you 'all' are .. but your posts here aren't really helping anyone
    else either. At least I'm trying to direct you to the correct places for
    you to get help directly from Adobe, if other people here have not been able
    to help you as yet.

    > I'm annoyed too I can't get any help to a problem which isn't even my
    > fault, it's been caused by
    > installing Flash Player 9.

    So .. contact Adobe via the support links .. or via the phone. Or ask here
    ... but not with the expectation of a response from Adboe support.

    > Correct me if I'm wrong but it was written by Adobe
    > who are not offering a solution to anyone asking for help, when you ask
    > you get
    > shouted when you try and point out no one is giving any help.

    You get shouted at when you appear NOT TO BE GETTING THE MESSAGE that this
    is the wrong place to talk directly to Adobe for support (which is what you
    seem to be expecting) .. Its like ringing up and getting a wrong number
    message, and then complaining to the person you rang incorrectly that the
    person you WANT to ring isn't answering the phone. The best thing to do is
    to dial the right number!!

    > I'd like to know from *Jeckyl* how users can "discuss issues and help each
    > other" when no one can even get the software to work ??

    Umm .. just about everyone else in the world CAN get it to work. Its only a
    very small percentage that can't. Otherwise Adobe forums and web sites etc
    would be flooded with complaints. That's just not happening. There's a
    handful of people posting with problems. I'm sure the problem is serious ..
    Adboe may well be looking at it, or have a solution somewhere (I've not gone
    search thru the technotes and support faq's etc .. have you tried that yet)?

    If I had a solution for you, I'd be more than happy to give it .. as would
    other posters here. But if there is nothing they can suggest to help,
    you'll simply have to go elsewhere (eg such as adobe customer support). Or
    have some patience, and hope someone here comes up with a solution (perhaps
    one of the other people with the same problem).

    This forum has a use .. and it may very well be the place where you actually
    get a solution to your problem from other users .. its just not a direct
    line to Adobe support that bypasses their (paid) customer support services.
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    Aug 6, 2006 9:35 PM   in reply to cutie815
    BTW: There seems to be a solution (not very satisfying, but something that
    has solved the problems for others posted in another thread here

    >>
    I went to C:\WINDOWS\system32\Macromed\Flash and copied "Flash9.ocx" and
    then
    pasted it back in the same directory. This created "Copy of Flash9.ocx"
    which
    I then renamed to "Flash.ocx." (Thus I had "Flash.ocx" and "Flash9.ocx",
    both
    the same file with a different name in the same directory.) Everything in
    IE
    seems to be working normally now; I'm not sure yet about my screensaver, but
    time will tell.
    >>

    It seems to me that there was some problem in the installation in updating
    the registry, and so the registry is still set up to look for flash.ocx ..
    instead of the new name for the ocx now. So this is a rather nasty little
    workaround for that problem. Not sure what will happen if you need to
    update the player in the future .. you may need to repeat the steps.

    It might be worth someone who has this problem searching their registry for
    'flash.ocx' and see where it is .. and then manually change it to
    'flash9.ocx' .. that may also fix the problem

    As I don't have the problem myself, I can't really try things to fix it ..
    only make guesses.
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    Aug 7, 2006 6:27 PM   in reply to 2pid
    Jeckyl,

    OK thanks for pointing that out, I have replied to that thread. As I've uninstalled Flash9 and not reinstalled it I don't have a C:\WINDOWS\system32\Macromed\Flash\Flash9.ocx anymore to try the that workaround. I do have a c:\program files\common files\aol\flasha.ocx though so perhaps a clash with AOL is the problem ?

    As regards these forums not being for support it does seem to be what all the other threads are asking for, many pointing to this bug. The only reason I came to this site was because of this problem and thought, as with others software forums, I could find a solution.

    Steve

     
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    Aug 7, 2006 6:46 PM   in reply to 2pid
    > OK thanks for pointing that out, I have replied to that thread.

    You're welcome .. that's what these forums are about .. users / customers
    helping each other.

    > As I've uninstalled Flash9 and not reinstalled it I don't have a
    > C:\WINDOWS\system32\Macromed\Flash\Flash9.ocx anymore to try the that
    > workaround. I do have a c:\program files\common files\aol\flasha.ocx
    > though so
    > perhaps a clash with AOL is the problem ?

    No idea .. maybe its an AOL problem ?

    > As regards these forums not being for support it does seem to be what all
    > the
    > other threads are asking for, many pointing to this bug.

    There are a few posts for this particular bug .. there are posts about all
    sorts of problems here. But that still does not mean it is the place to get
    directly in contact with Adobe for support (as much as you and others here
    may wish it to be). It is only for peer-to-peer support .. so if someone
    else has had this problem nad found a solution, they can share it with
    others. So far, though, it seem like there's not been anytone else who has
    solved this problem (or not with a solution that you can use).
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