so in order for you to take advantage of the NEW LR Camera Raw the short answer is YES!!?

mikeobe wrote:

 

so in order for you to take advantage of the NEW LR Camera Raw the short answer is YES!!?

Well, it gets so complicated that let's make sure we agree the question!  Assuming the version of LR is 4 (or greater) and you want to "Edit in" Photoshop:

1. If the installed version of Photoshop is CS5 with ACR 6.6 (or earlier), then choose "Render using Lightroom".  Choosing "Open anyway" will cause problems. 
2. If using CS5, but with ACR6.7, currently in Release Candidate, it will still ask the question, but Adobe say it's safe to choose "Open anyway", as I understand it.
3. If using CS6, which will have ACR7, then it won't ask the question - it will assume it's compatible and take the "Open anyway" route without asking. 

If in case 1 or 2 it doesn't ask, it's probably because you've suppressed the question.  Go to (in Lightroom) Edit menu, Preferences.. General Tab and click "Reset all warning dialogs".

If you choose "Open anyway" (or it does it automatically) then LR passes the raw file to PS, PS processes it behind the scenes in ACR, and if and when you save the file in PS - and only if and when - it creates a new image (e.g. TIF or PSD) which is stacked with the original in LR.

If you choose "Render using Lightroom", then LR creates a TIF there and then, stacks it with the original, and passes the TIF to PS.  This is how it behaves always with any editor except PS.  The only disadvantage is if you edit in PS and decide not to save.  You will already have the TIF, and if you don't want it, you have to delete it in LR. 

mikeobe wrote:

 

"then LR creates a TIF there and then," this is the part I'm referring too!

True. But, it you were to open a raw file using PSCS6 and Camera RAW, you would eventually save the image as a PSD, TIF, JPG or some other format, right? If that were not the case, why would you even bother to open the file in PS? Assuming you do plan on saving the file from PS after editing, then edit the image and just click SAVE. That will overwrite the TIF file that LR created and update the preview in LR. 

If you don't want TIF format, then change the edit preferences in LR. You can select PSD or TIF, 8 or 16 bit, sRGB, Adobe RGB, ProPhotoRGB, and you can  set the resolution in PPI. If you want JPG or another color profile, then you will have to do that another way.

The above is not a compatibility issue. If you don't want the TIF or PSD file, then you can save as a different format directly from PS after editing, or export the TIF file to another file format from LR. Of course, you can choose to delete the TIF afterward if you choose, and perhaps this is an extra step you don't want. Seems like a minor point to me. If that extra step is not acceptable, then spend the money on PSCS6 and the latest version of Camera Raw.

I am using LR 4.1rc and ACR 6.7rc and i can no longer get the warning about rendering in LR and the reset warnings button is greyed out. Tried trashing preferences and restarting LR, but no success.

dmiller62 wrote:

 

There is nothing here going on that should be a mystery. The bottom line is this:

 

- PV2012 requires Camera RAW 7.0.

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if the only RAW 7.0 plugin tha's released is for CS6, then anyone who wants a fully bridged/compatible workflow between LR4 and Photoshop will need to upgrade to CS6.

I'm testing Bridge CS6, and LR4 adjustments still don't show in bridge although it uses camera raw 7. Shouldn't it?

If I adjust in LR4, it won't show in Bridge CS6 (it even maintains the settings I previously applied in ACR 7). While if I adjust it in ACR 7, back in LR 4, it will show up as it should (even warning if the settings was changed in another app, and show I keep that setting or the one I'm changing in LR4).