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Experiencing performance related issues in Lightroom 4.x

Aug 6, 2012 3:58 PM

  Latest reply: Victoria Bampton, Dec 18, 2012 11:37 AM
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    Apr 11, 2012 7:10 PM   in reply to BCormier

    Hi, For a comparision I use a HP Pavillion DV-4 (3 years old) for my travelling machine and it has the following set up:

     

    Lightroom version: 4.1 RC [820174]

    Operating system: Windows 7 Home Premium Edition, Version: 6.1 [7601]

    Application/System architecture: x64

    Physical processor count: 2 x 2.5 GHz (Dual Core Centrino 2)

    Built-in memory: 4062.9 MB

    Real memory available to Lightroom: 4062.9 MB

    Real memory used by Lightroom: 458.0 MB (11.2%)

    Virtual memory used by Lightroom: 484.5 MB

    Memory cache size: 276.3 MB

    System DPI setting: 96 DPI

    Desktop composition enabled: Yes

    Displays: 1) 1280x800

    Adapter NVIDIA GeoForce 9200M

    Dedicated Video Memory 512 MB

     

    Typically it will take up to 10 seconds to start-up Lightroom 4.1RC and the first time I switch to the develop module it may take up to 5 seconds. After that there doesn't seem to be any lag in either processing or using the sliders. The

     

    My typical workflow is: 1) Import CR2 files; 2) scan and mark those for rejection; 3) delete rejected photos; 4) convert all that are left to DNG deleting the originals.

     

    My desktop machine is a Sony Vaio VPCL-218FG with 2 x i7 quad core processors (8 physical processors) with 8GB ram, 1024MB video memory (NVIDIA GeoForce GT540M) and that is a lot faster.

     

    Hope this gives you some idea of the configurations that seem to work.

     
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    Apr 11, 2012 8:46 PM   in reply to gadgetgeek
     
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    Apr 12, 2012 7:38 AM   in reply to kwdaves
     
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    Apr 15, 2012 7:56 PM   in reply to BCormier

    I downloaded the trial version of LR4 and WILL NOT be purchasing it.  It is PAINFULLY slow.  I usually can upload a few hundred pictures in a few minutes with LR3.6.  It has been over an hour now and my raw files are still not uploading.  The develop module is unresponsive as well.  Changes take a few seconds before they show up. 

     
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    Apr 23, 2012 12:39 AM   in reply to BCormier

    OMG!  I just tried to edit a small set of photos in LR4 and moving around is painfully slow indeed compared to LR3.6.

    All I did was go into Develop, crop the image, press "2" to set the rating and press "G" to go back to Library.  From the moment I pressed "2" followed by "G", it was more than 15 seconds to get to Library.  In LR3, that was like 2 seconds.

    WTH did Adobe do to slow it down so much for the same exact steps?

     
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    Apr 23, 2012 2:36 PM   in reply to J.Chin Photography

    Shame on me for not trying LR4 out , I just purchased the upgrade. Although I can see some nice new features. The lag time when using sliders or the adjustment brush is PAINFULLY slow...it renders this an unusable program to me. I also dont appreciate the fact that When I try to toggle over to CS5, I am prompted to download bridge 7.0 which isn't even available for download yet. This product WAS NOT ready for introduction yet . My computer absolutely Screams with any other photo editing task in LR3 CS5 or many others. If you haven't bought this yet  DON'T till you read that things have been resolved. My guess is it won't be for a while ... what a shame ...

     
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    Apr 24, 2012 12:53 PM   in reply to Madscape

    Whew!  I thought it was me.  Misery loves company so I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one that is two days behind deadline on a client's project because LR4 is taking so long to render images, change from one image to another, apply a brush stroke, and crashing!  At first I suspected it  might be the new Seagate external hard drive I was using, so I moved the entire folder of images (3300 images) to a hard drive I know works well.  Same thing.  So then I moved the entire folder of images right onto the Mac under Pictures, to make certain it isn't an issue with external HDs in general (I don't normally keep images on the 1TB internal Mac drive; I am only using 1.6GB of space with all my programs and have 10GB RAM).  Same problem.  Photoshop, Word, Outlook, Acrobat, et al, are working normally.  The images only bog down in LR4.  I don't believe the LR4 images are backwards compatible with LR3 or I would dump the new program.  Anybody else have any ideas?

     
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    Apr 24, 2012 4:47 PM   in reply to steve@steveanchell.com

    Why don't all you guys just revert your default process to the 2010 version

    so that LR4 tests all the images as LR3 does.  If you have to revert to LR3

    anyway, that's the processes your using there.

     

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    Apr 24, 2012 5:34 PM   in reply to gregkmeyer

    I went in last night and upped the Camera raw cache... (  Edit/Prefrences/Filehandling/ ).... to 20.0 and it seemed to help things a little....

     
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    Apr 24, 2012 6:02 PM   in reply to gregkmeyer

    Greg, A good solution for the short term, thank you.  I have spent three days working on 14 images that would have taken 1 day in LR3.  I was just starting on the last image when your e-mail came in!  I wish I had gotten it sooner, would have saved some of my hair.  Using process 2010 the edits are almost instantaneous on my Mac.  Anyway, I hope Adobe can address this issue with process 2012.  As it is, it is unusable, and I don't appreciate Adobe releasing it in this state.  Until now I have recommended all of my students use LR.  Maybe a good time to take another look at Aperture.

     
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    Apr 24, 2012 6:21 PM   in reply to steve@steveanchell.com

    Just curious...  this is a very old thread. Are you guys using LR 4.1

    RC?   There is a version out there which does improve speed but not for

    all sliders and multi-monitor options.  ADOBE says they are working on

    the issues of performance... it has been several weeks and I like the

    new features so I put up with the poor release. I can run either version

    and I am not going backward. Note... if the 4.1RC version had not come

    out I would have asked for my money back.

     
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    Apr 24, 2012 6:25 PM   in reply to LR_Mowang

    I am using 4.1 and it is A LOT better than 4.0. I used 3.6 again the other day and it is still a bit speedier, but 4.1 is just fine for me.

     
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    Apr 24, 2012 6:34 PM   in reply to LR_Mowang

    I am using 4.0 with Camera Raw 7.0.  When I check for updates through LR it says my software is up-to-date.  I will go to the Adobe site and see if I can locate 4.1.  In the meantime, I have tried Madscapes suggestion and upped the cache to 80.0; don't notice much difference.  Thanks, Madscape.

     

    Addendum: I just went to adobe.com and the only LR update I see is for LR3 posted in December.  If someone knows where they are hiding 4.1 I'll give it a shot.  Thank  you.

     
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    Apr 24, 2012 6:39 PM   in reply to steve@steveanchell.com

    4.1 release candidate is in Adobe Labs.

     
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    Apr 24, 2012 7:34 PM   in reply to Lee Jay
     
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    Apr 25, 2012 8:10 AM   in reply to jsakhtar

    I have downloaded the 4.1 version but am unable to open the zipped folder, does anyone know which program to open it with.

     
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    Apr 25, 2012 8:15 AM   in reply to Robbie2006

    Re-download.  Something probably happened during download.

     
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    Apr 25, 2012 8:37 AM   in reply to BCormier

    I'm having the same problem.  I have the trial version of 4 but am unable to load 4.1.  The zip file just reloads 4.0 and won't install 4.1.  I'm guessing it is b/c it is still the trial version.  Of course, I don't want to buy 4 unless this is fixed.    I'd be happy sticking with LR3 if I were able to use the LR4 catalog that I created. So it seems I either lose all the work I did in 4.0 or just buy 4.0,  cross my fingers and hope they fixed it with 4.1? 

     
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    Apr 25, 2012 9:16 AM   in reply to Robbie2006

    I couldn't simply RUN the program, I downloaded the folder onto my desktop ..But it did open for me ..Now when I try to toggle over to CS5 it says I need CR6.7 ( instead of 7.0 ) yet when I go to the adobe site It won't download...also..The 4.1 isn't any faster than 4.0 was ...I'm seriously considering calling Adobe and getting my upgrade money back . I was very content with LR3 .I only upgraded to ....well...upgrade : < /   

     

    Also ..when you toggle to CS5 ..they do give you the option to continue anyway ...I tried it and when trying to work a layermask with my Intuos 4 tablet ..the adjustment brush size doesnt show when turning the thumbwheel on the tablet .... Enough for me to say " goodbye " and log out ...

     
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    Apr 26, 2012 12:41 PM   in reply to lauralobiancosword

    Hey everyone. Lightroom 4.1 RC2 just was released. They’ve got props on the release page with a special “thank you” to the users of the User-to-User forum (that’s us!) for providing insight into the issues that they have addressed in RC2.

     

     

     

    http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/lightroom4-1/

     

     

     

    Check it out! Downloading now…

     

     

     

    Geoff

     
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    Apr 26, 2012 1:45 PM   in reply to gadgetgeek

    Thanks.. I just installed it ..will try it tomorrow ...Man I was hoping for a lens profile correction for my Tokina 11-16  in version 4  : (-

     

    But I did try one thing ...I toggled to CS5 and the tablet brushes and controls seem to work ok ... 

     
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    Apr 26, 2012 1:49 PM   in reply to Madscape

    The Tokina 11-16 is there. It doesnt get auto-applied though. You have to select Tokina in the dropdown of the lens corrections, and that lens is the first one in the list.

     
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    Apr 26, 2012 1:51 PM   in reply to jsakhtar

    I created one for the Nikon version of this lens ages ago that's on the

    lens profile downloader list that does get autoapplied for me at least

     
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    Apr 26, 2012 1:53 PM   in reply to Jao vdL

    I should have said the Canon version.

     

    My camera (60D) reports the lens as just 11-16, no other info.

     
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    Apr 26, 2012 2:30 PM   in reply to Madscape

    "I was very content with LR3"

     

    Then just set the process version in LR4 to PV2010 and voila, LR3 controls and performance in LR4.

     
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    Apr 26, 2012 3:07 PM   in reply to gregkmeyer

    My quick test shows a positive change in responsiveness for me, even over Lightroom 4.1 RC1. One thing that was really slow for me was switching back and forth between library and develop. I think this change may now even be faster than it was in Lightroom 3.

     

     

     

    Adjusting the sliders is still not smooth for me. My CPU is spiking to nearly 100% moving the exposure and contrast sliders. The lag to display the changes is about 1 second behind the slider change. Change slider, wait 1 second, screen updates, change slider, wait 1 second, screen updates. Small adjustment changes like this are still taking a while on my machine.

     

     

     

    Screen shot while adjusting the exposure slider (shows almost 1.7GB used memory and 95% of a dual-core Intel Core2 Extreme processor).

     

     

     

     

     

    Thanks for paying attention to these forums and making the changes! Hopefully we can smooth out the issues and make Lightroom 4 the killer app it should be. J

     

     

     

    Geoff

     
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    Apr 26, 2012 3:49 PM   in reply to gregkmeyer

    I just noticed that zooming in and out is slower than RC1. For me, that means the 3D settings on my video card are incorrect. Because Lightroom RC2 loads in a new folder, the settings on my nVIDIA graphics card are reset back to default. With those settings I have all sorts of trouble in Lightroom. I setup the same application settings I was using for Lightroom 3 and RC1, and now my sliders are working great, and zooming in and out is quick.

     

     

     

    I am using a laptop with an embedded NVidia Quadro FX 2700M video card.

     

     

     

    I had a previous post about what 3D settings I use, but will repeat them here in case anyone else wants to try. Those with the * are the ones that I have changed in the application profile for Lightroom:

     

    • Anisotropic Filtering:  Off

     

    • Antialiasing – Gamma Correction:  Off

     

    • Antialiasing – Mode: Override any application setting

     

    • Antialiasing – Setting:  2x (2xMS)

     

    • Antialiasing – Transparency:  Off

     

    • Buffer-flipping mode: Use block transfer

     

    CUDA – GPUs: Use global setting (All)

     

    • Enable overlay:  Off

     

    Exported pixel types: Use global setting (Color indexed overlay)

     

    Maximum pre-rendered frames: Use global setting (3)

     

    • Multi-display/mixed-GPU acceleration: Compatibility performance mode

     

    • OpenGL rendering GPU:  Quadro FX 2700M

     

    • Power management mode: Prefer maximum performance

     

    Stereo – Display mode: Use global setting (Custom)

     

    Stereo – Enable: Use global setting (off)

     

    Stereo – Swap Eyes: Use global setting (Off)

     

    Threaded optimization: Use global setting (Auto)

     

    • Triple buffering: Off

     

    Texture filtering – Anisotropic filter optimi: Off

     

    Texture Filtering – Anisotropic sample opti: Off

     

    Texture filtering – Negative LOD bias: Allow

     

    • Vertical sync: Force On

     

     

     

    I hope this helps!

     

    Geoff

     
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    Apr 26, 2012 5:13 PM   in reply to gadgetgeek

    So I downloaded the recent update and LR4.1 RC2 seems to be working well now... I was having trouble getting ACR6.7 on my machine but here is what I finally did to get it to load ..

     

    First I downloaded the DNG converter that is available on the same page that the ACR 6.7 is available. I was able to simply " RUN " the file and didnt have to download it to my desktop and open it ...

     

    Next I downloaded " SAVE"  ( the only way it would work ) the ACR 6.7 file to my desktop ..

     

    then I followed these instructions from another Member :

     

    Open CS5

    Open the adobe patch instaler and follow the instructions

    at one point you are prompted to close CS5 to continue the install.

     

    It installed and now when I toggle from LR4 to CS5   ( Control / E ) I go straight to Photoshop and all my tools work well.   I'm not sure if I'll run into any glitches , but as for right now I am thrilled at Adobe's quick solution offering . The DNG converter stated that it would expire at the end of next month. Hopefully I'll be prompted when that occurs for a permanent download ...  Good luck and thanks to everyone for their input ...Enjoy,  Mark

     
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    Apr 26, 2012 5:34 PM   in reply to gadgetgeek

    Upgraded to RC2, overall seems much better performance than RC1. It is still slightly slower than 3.6 but getting better. I'm having no problems with zooming in and out, module changing or memory. I have an i7 machine,SSD drives and 12 gigabytes of RAM with external eSATA drive array and a Nvidia GTX470 video card. One thing that I did notice was the change in the CA removal and Defring sliders, Adobe must have been listening to everyone's complaint about CA sliders because the new implementation is nothing less than spectacular! Best CA removal tool I have ever used. There does seem to be some tweaking left to do, but this is an amazing start.

     
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    Apr 26, 2012 8:00 PM   in reply to dennishh

    Adobe's servers must be getting slammed, it's taking an hour to download this new RC. crazy.

    I really hope it fixes the massive slow down problem  - and here's hoping for 5D3 and new Nikon Tethering support in 4.1 - an absolutly essential feature.

     
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    Apr 26, 2012 8:04 PM   in reply to jameskachan

    5D3 import is supported, but until the Nikon and Canon SDKs are updated, I'm don't believe tethering will be updated. Unfortunately I don't have a 5D3 to try it .

     
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    Apr 26, 2012 8:15 PM   in reply to Seán McCormack

    5D3 RAW support yes, tethering support not right now... you have to do the dumb watched folder auto import thing right now.

     
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    Apr 26, 2012 8:22 PM   in reply to jameskachan

    And that's where Canon come in.

     
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    Apr 27, 2012 3:59 AM   in reply to Seán McCormack

    Having the Temp option in the graduated filter selection is BRILLIANT !! and outstanding for landscape shots ....

     
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    Apr 27, 2012 4:55 PM   in reply to BCormier

    My LR4 is extremely slow capturing photos and video.  It took approx. 25 minutes to capture 71 RAW + jpg files.  This is totally unacceptable.

    System:

    I7

    16 gb RAM

    356 gb SSD

    1.5 tb drives for Data

     

    LR 3 was much faster.........what can I do to improve performance?

     

    Thx,

    PhilR

     
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    Apr 30, 2012 4:01 AM   in reply to BCormier

    Even though this is better than 4.0 or RC-1 it's still bad.

     

    I have a pretty good machine and 3.6 worked great so I know it's possible to have good performance but alas...not in RC-2 yet.

     

    With Clarity set to 0, the filmstrip not showing, and the process at 2010 I have less "max CPU" issues and less "not responding" issues but the problem is far from solved.

     
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    Apr 30, 2012 1:27 PM   in reply to BCormier

    RC2 no diff for me...what P*SSES me off to no end is not being able to process my RAW images with 3.6...My fault for buying a new camera I guess (5D M III)  very very irritated...

     
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    Apr 30, 2012 8:15 PM   in reply to BCormier

    LR4 RC2 is very slow!

    Guys please, we know its beta, please do not force us buying new computers by putting code on code, fix the code. My camera didnt change, and LR3.6 was working fine with the same files.

     

    There's is definitely a memory leak too.

    Using Free Memory app on Mac and I see how it behaves different on my computer. I am on LR since version one.

     


     
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    Apr 30, 2012 8:23 PM   in reply to andreas603

    You can if you convert them to DNG with the free DNG converter 6.7 at Adobe Labs.

    andreas603 wrote:

     

    RC2 no diff for me...what P*SSES me off to no end is not being able to process my RAW images with 3.6...My fault for buying a new camera I guess (5D M III)  very very irritated...

     
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    Apr 30, 2012 8:28 PM   in reply to nadavee

    While I do understand your frustration appreciate that we are all frustrated. Meanwhile it could help if you give us some details on your system, etc such as these:

    Mac 10.7.3

    MBP 2012

    i7 8gb ram

    750Gb 7200 internal

    12Tb Promise Raid external

    Catalogs and cache on internal

    Image files - some internal, some external

    Files mainly Nikon D7000 converted to DNG.

     

    I haven't seen the slow down at all.

    nadavee wrote:

     

    LR4 RC2 is very slow!

    Guys please, we know its beta, please do not force us buying new computers by putting code on code, fix the code. My camera didnt change, and LR3.6 was working fine with the same files.

     

    There's is definitely a memory leak too.

    Using Free Memory app on Mac and I see how it behaves different on my computer. I am on LR since version one.

     


     
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