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Image preview in Open dialog window (Photoshop CS6)

Apr 29, 2012 6:53 AM

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We had a possibility to see images preview in Open File dialog window of Photoshop CS5 but in new CS6 version there is not such possibility. Should I forget about that nice option and use Mini Bridge?

 
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  • Trevor Dennis
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    Apr 29, 2012 8:25 AM   in reply to YahorShumski

    Yahor, if I am understanding your point, it works fine for me with Windows 7.  The drop box is there in the Open dialogue box, and I can select the usual choices up to and including Extra Large icons.

     

    Open.jpg

     
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    Apr 29, 2012 5:27 PM   in reply to YahorShumski

    Not without a codec for PSD.

     

    I use the inexpensive FastPictureViewer Codec Pack myself.  This gives you not only thumbnails but previews in Windows Photo Viewer, and works for Photoshop Open/Save dialogs as well as Explorer.

     

    PSFileOpenWithCodecs.jpg

     

    I haven't checked it out yet, but I understand the recently released Microsoft Camera Codec Pack may have PSD and PSB codecs as well.

     

    http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=26829

     

    EDIT: After checking this, it appears I heard wrong.

     

    -Noel

     
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    May 15, 2012 6:43 AM   in reply to Noel Carboni

    I miss the image preview too.

     
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    May 18, 2012 6:03 AM   in reply to YahorShumski

    Yes, this is very disturbing while working and trying to find certain file..
    what was the point of removing the file preview?!

     
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    May 18, 2012 7:00 AM   in reply to anrh_c

    Perhaps they're looking to standardize the dialog and avoid problems they have had by augmenting/hooking the OS dialog.

     

    The right answer really is to get codecs and have the OS provide the thumbnail support at all its levels.

     

    -Noel

     
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    May 22, 2012 4:09 PM   in reply to YahorShumski

    Dude...seriously...why in the world would they remove that? I just noticed it myself today after upgrading a couple of days ago (using the full version). And Yahor is right for questioning Trevor regarding Windows 7 ability to see the preview of PSD files. You can only see JPEGs and similar web type files. PSD files just show as icons. And even so, I need my files in "List" type on Windows, as I have a lot of files in each folder, and it's a lot easier to visually find what I'm looking for in a large alphabetical list (rather than in large preview mode), and than click on it to preview if it's the file I'm looking for. I can't, for the life of me, figure out why they would remove something so fundamental as the preview in Photoshop. They work so hard to create "new" features that we all "need", but then take out something incredibly basic that we REALLY need. For some reason, though, they decided it was still necessary in Illustrator, because it's still there on it. Where do I email my feedback/complaint? I can already tell this feature, or lack thereof, is going to drive me up the wall.

     
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    May 22, 2012 7:36 PM   in reply to Promofuse

    Promofuse wrote:

     

    You can only see JPEGs and similar web type files. PSD files just show as icons.

     

    Promofuse, did you read this entire thread?  Did you look carefully at the picture I posted?  With an additional codec pack you can see thumbnails for all kinds of files.

     

    But I do understand your desire to have your files displayed in List or Details view.  In that case the thumbnail preview at the bottom of the dialog would be very nice to have.  But it's not there, and I have a feeling it was taken out on purpose.

     

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    May 22, 2012 8:01 PM   in reply to Noel Carboni

    I'm not so sure it was on purpose or not Noel. Especially since it's still there in Illustrator and Indesign. If it weren't for it being in those, I might think it was intentional. Then again, it could very well be Adobe trying really hard to push MiniBridge, which is almost utterly useless. I think they actually made the minibridge WORSE as well. The sizing issues of the thumbnails on that are a pain and minibridge is just plain cumbersome to run. Anyways, besides my many qualms with minibridge itself, and back on the open dialog box thing...I actually watched a youtube video pointing out the same codecs you're talking about and without the PSD functionality, it's pretty useless. I'm a graphic designer, so I don't really use PS for camera image editing and don't mess with those files that the codec helps with. Even if it did, that still isn't very helpful to me. Because at that point, you're pretty much just doing what Bridge/MIniBridge does. However, consider how I, and many other designers in the print field work: At any given point we might have something like 3 different versions of a file; a PSD (with layers to edit), a JPEG (to send to the customer for proofing), and a PDF (for printing). Now, within that customer folder I might have 50+ files of different jobs. Imagine trying to sift through all those thumbnails, scrolling across window upon window, and when you get to the file you're finally looking for, you click it open to just to see that you opened the jpeg instead of the PSD. Now, in LIST view, I can see many more files on one screen and each file type is represented by an icon. So I know the blue icons are Photoshop icons and it's very easy to skim through there and know exactly which file type I'm looking for without peering at extensions. Get what I'm saying? Not that I don't appreciate you trying to help. Just saying, unless any codec can bring back the preview screen....than I don't see a workaround until Adobe flat out FIXES IT. I'm one of those guys that loves to get the newest thing and give it time to work, but if they don't fix it, I might have to call up Adobe and demand a downgrade on my Photoshop to 5.5, cause it really slows my workflow when I have hundreds of files to keep up with, and any new feature in PS CS6 that might have sped up my work is offset by not being able to do such a remedial task as preview my files before opening them.

     
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  • Pierre Courtejoie
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    May 23, 2012 4:31 AM   in reply to YahorShumski

    In CS6, Adobe uses the Os dialog, where there is no thumbnail (there seems to be a bug that a Microsoft employee claims to be fixed, and Adobe says it isn't:

     

    http://forums.adobe.com/message/1641868#1641868 )

     

    Were you using the Adobe dialog in CS5?

     
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    May 23, 2012 5:53 AM   in reply to Pierre Courtejoie

    Well, it's definitely not a problem in my Mac version of CS6, where even raw files and raw DNGs show their preview in the Photoshop Open dialog box.  So, it's very likely a Microsoft problem.

     
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    May 23, 2012 6:27 AM   in reply to YahorShumski

    For those that do not want to pay for file previews in Explorer...

     

    Sage Thumbs is not quite ideal in accurately previewing color of CMYK PSDs but it is free.

    https://code.google.com/p/sagethumbs/

     

    You might also try the last freeware version of Mystic Thumbs (1.98)

    http://www.321download.com/LastFreeware/page40.html

     
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    Aug 2, 2012 10:51 AM   in reply to station_two

    Just for clarity:

     

    What we're talking about being missing from Photoshop CS6 is the preview near the bottom of the dialog that was there in Photoshop CS5 and earlier:

     

    ScreenGrab_05_23_2012_092441.jpg

     

     

    This is what you see now with Photoshop CS6:

     

    ScreenGrab_05_23_2012_092643.jpg

     

    They're both Operating System dialogs.  It's just that Adobe has augmented the dialog to add additional preview functionality in the Photoshop CS5 and earlier dialogs and that has been removed for some unknown reason.  Note that they have NOT removed all augmentation - that little [  ] Image Sequence box is not provided by Windows.

     

    -Noel

     

    [MODERATOR] Marking this post as correct as it perfectly illustrates the issue. This topic is further discussed here: Photoshop: No image preview on Open dialog box in CS6

     

    Message was edited by: Brett N

     
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    May 23, 2012 7:44 AM   in reply to Noel Carboni

    Thank you, Noel.  That's timely and relevant.

     
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    May 23, 2012 9:35 AM   in reply to YahorShumski

    Right Noel. That's exactly the problem I'm talking about. I am very curious as to what this Sage Thumbs that Marian suggested is. Kind of looks like the Apple dialog box preview. I'm sure it would work fine in Windows Explorer, but the question is; does it work within Photoshop's "Open" dialog box? If so, I'd be all for it. Though....I'm not usually a fan of installing third party software that changes Windows functionality/appearance. It always seems to slow it down and cause problems later.

     
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    May 23, 2012 9:53 AM   in reply to Promofuse

    Promofuse wrote:

     

    ...I'm sure it would work fine in Windows Explorer, but the question is; does it work within Photoshop's "Open" dialog box?...

    That's the same thing!

     

    Here's what it looks like in my CS5 File Open dialog...

    sage.png

     
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    May 23, 2012 10:42 AM   in reply to Marian Driscoll

    So as not to hijack this thread, it would be interesting to open a new thread or even a poll just to inquire why folks don't use Bridge in this scenario.

     

    I always launch Bridge before Photoshop.

     

    Oh well, each to his own…

     
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    May 23, 2012 11:53 AM   in reply to station_two

    To me it is just downright disgusting that I can not see PSD in PS when using Open.  So I use Bridge, and sometimes 2 copies, to choose files to open where I can see the imagem and with minimal browsing.

     
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    May 23, 2012 12:45 PM   in reply to station_two

    Because Bridge is slow and clunky. And why would I want to run an app/resource hog just to make running another app less painful?

     

    /rant

     
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    May 23, 2012 12:58 PM   in reply to YahorShumski

    Well, Marian, it's definitely better than nothing. I went ahead and installed it. It has a couple of nice features, but still leaves much to be desired for those of us that like browsing in List view. Having to right click on the file and find "SageThumbs" in a submenu every time I want a quick preview is still cumbersome. I like my programs to be quick, efficient, and effortless.

     

    Which brings me back to Bridge and why it's no better. I'm with Jaques on this one. Running a program on top of another just to OPEN a file? I mean...how lame is that? This is the OPEN function for goodness sake. It's been in like every program ever made where you can save files. And all of a sudden, it's not good enough and we need Bridge to do the work for us? Bridge's new slogan--"Adobe Bridge: For those of us that like to piss away system resources just for the hey of it". I'm not saying it doesn't have some good things once in a while for comparison purposes, and I'll use it here and there, but really, when I just need to open a file and maybe glance for half a second at a preivew to make sure I'm opening the correct file, is it too much to ask for Adobe just to leave well enough alone? I really can't imagine another so-called "bug" that should be higher on Adobe's priority list than this one right now that needs fixing.

     
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    May 23, 2012 1:12 PM   in reply to Promofuse

    Promofuse wrote:

     

    ... leaves much to be desired for those of us that like browsing in List view...

    You can still browse in List view with a preview pane to the right and/or with a preview in the lower left corner. You just need to look in Explorer instead of Photoshop's File->Open.

     

    Instead of CTRL-O, press WINDOWS-E.

     

    https://sagethumbs.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/sagethumbs-icon-view.png

    https://sagethumbs.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/sagethumbs-after.png

     
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    May 23, 2012 1:18 PM   in reply to Marian Driscoll

    I'll give you that one Marian. That will probably have to be my go-to solution for now. Still a pain in the arse and ineffecient, but I think I can keep from getting straight-up ticked off for now, not to mention it still seems better than running Bridge in the background. I'm actually talking to an Adobe rep right now on instant chat and will let you guys know if he can tell me anything (though I would bet most of my money on "no"). Thanks for the workaround for now Marian.

     
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    May 23, 2012 1:46 PM   in reply to Marian Driscoll

    Marian,

    Are you running Sage or Mystic Thumbs to pull off that Explorer preview?

     
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    May 23, 2012 2:26 PM   in reply to JaquesV

    JaquesV wrote:

     

    ...Are you running Sage or Mystic Thumbs...

    Yes.

     

    DOH!

     

    I just noticed that I had installed both a year ago on this machine. That's not a good idea. On all my other Windows computers I just run sagethumbs.  I lean toward sagethumbs because it is currently developed. You can find a modern version of Mystic Thumbs but it is now a commercial product.

     

    The first screenshot that I posted from Photoshop's File->Open dialog is from my computer. The PS icon over the lower right corner is a result of Mystic Thumbs. Sagethumbs does not add that.

     

    The last two screenshots are from the sagethumbs web page. They show views possible in Windows Explorer.

     

     

    EDIT: one other thing... I also dumb down my Windows interface to 'classic' because I don't like the cartoony colored windows decoration of XP/Vista/7.  I would imagine if I used the modern Windows skin, the Photoshop File->Open dialog might have more options.

     
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    May 23, 2012 2:26 PM   in reply to YahorShumski

    Naturally, the Adobe rep was entirely unhelpful and gave me a bunch of prelisted answers. No surprise there. At the end, he just ended up referring me to http://feedback.photoshop.com to submit feedback, which I've already logged a Problem thread for this topic. Make sure you guys go there and add your support to that thread so maybe Adobe will actually do something about it. Without more people making a fuss over it, they won't even look into it. Here's the thread: http://gsfn.us/t/2vgwb

     
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    May 23, 2012 4:10 PM   in reply to Promofuse

    Promofuse wrote:

     

    I am very curious as to what this Sage Thumbs that Marian suggested is.

    Though....I'm not usually a fan of installing third party software that changes Windows functionality/appearance. It always seems to slow it down and cause problems later.

     

    This is a case where you want to make an exception to the rule, as codecs can greatly enhance your Windows experience when dealing with images of various types.

     

    This is what the FastPictureViewer Codec Pack I use does, though it costs a few bucks (less than $20 as I recall).  It has some color-management advantages over the free software.  I've found it to cause no problems whatsoever on my system, and I'm quite critical about both stability and performance.

     

    Some examples:

     

    ImagesOfVariousTypes.jpg

     

    ScreenGrab_05_23_2012_190517.jpg

     

    ScreenGrab_05_23_2012_190805.jpg

     

    -Noel

     
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    Jul 31, 2012 4:10 AM   in reply to YahorShumski

    I just wish they'd bring the image preview back in the Open Dialog. I try to use Mini Bridge (which I absolutely detest) and get the message that the images are too large and that I have to have Bridge running already. Not acceptable.

     
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    Aug 2, 2012 8:16 AM   in reply to Marian Driscoll

    I have windows 7 and CS5. All I get in the PSD icons. What setting do you have to get to preview the images?  I rather preview in windows that get viewer which means just another program to have to open.

    Thanks

     
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    Aug 2, 2012 10:13 AM   in reply to Kimblh

    Kimblh, please read this thread again, paying close attention to the mention of codecs, which are 3rd party programs that add the abilities you seek.

     

    -Noel

     
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    Aug 2, 2012 4:01 PM   in reply to Noel Carboni

    I will give the download a try but I looked at Microsoft Camera Codec and it only talked about camera extension and not psd extentions.

     
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    Aug 2, 2012 4:04 PM   in reply to Kimblh

    I'll spell it out a bit better:  Look up FastPictureViewer Codec Pack, Ardfry Codec Pack, Sage Thumbs, and several others.

     

    -Noel

     
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    Aug 2, 2012 4:08 PM   in reply to Noel Carboni

    I looked at FastPictureViewer Codec Pack this morning and thought it was a seperate program. I miss read it due to  .. (life )..  Anyway, sorry, got it now.

     
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    Dec 11, 2012 9:46 AM   in reply to YahorShumski

    I have spent several hours trying out different solutions to this glaringly obvious issue. None of the options are acceptable and I'll tell you why.

     

    Having a thumbnail preview of the image files via a "large icon" view of the files doesn't solve the issue completely. First, it takes me more time to find the files I am looking for because my file listing is now much more spread out. If I make the icons any smaller then the previews are worthless. Secondly, unlike the OS dialog outside of Photoshop the file open dialog inside Photoshop CS6 truncates file names. So now I have no idea what file type I am going to be opening unless I inspect each and every file to find the PSD version versus a JPG version, etc.

     

    I don't care who wants to blame who or what issues stand in the way. The end result is that common functionality that has previously existed has been removed and not replaced with anything else. Workflow is key to those who work in related fields and use Photoshop and at this time I don't see any acceptable solutions. Bridge is clunky and slow, all of the plugins and codecs that keep being pushed do not solve the issue and two corporate behemoths are playing the blame game when in the end the user is the one who suffers.

     
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    Dec 11, 2012 12:58 PM   in reply to scottberry

    Alas, we have entered the time of vendors delivering less and charging more.

     

    Just click once on the icon to see the full filename.

     

    BeforeClickOnImageFile.jpg

     

    ClickOnImageFile.jpg

     

     

    -Noel

     
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    Dec 11, 2012 1:04 PM   in reply to Noel Carboni

    One more workaround that doesn't give me a valid solution with a directory of neatly named files (read: longer than several characters) and so I am eternally lost.

     

    Maybe a downgrade is in order for me... I am seeing no benefit from CS6 at all and obvious detraction from my workflow as noted in this thread.

     

    As a professional in software development I understand the issues Adobe and Microsoft are facing. What makes good product and customer service is to find a solution to those problems. The consumer should never suffer. Bad PR, bad mojo and a small, but very compelling reason, to stop buying further Adobe products.

     

    A preview. That's ALL that was needed. Not being able to provide that is just rediculous.

     

    The responses from Chris in the other thread that shows at the top of a Google search, while honest and up-front, do nothing to further a solution.

     
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    Dec 11, 2012 1:05 PM   in reply to scottberry

    Return CS6 and ask for your money back...

     
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    Dec 11, 2012 2:06 PM   in reply to scottberry

    Look at it this way:  If this is the worst thing you have to worry about, life isn't really bad. 

     

    -Noel

     
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    Feb 18, 2013 5:46 PM   in reply to YahorShumski

    This software works perfectly, it's free, does not expire, and it really does the job we need with previews without having to open additional menus. This installed windows 7 ultimate 64 bit, and Photoshop CS6. All Good.

     

    This address is Original download version 1.9, in 32 and 64 bits. after this version began to charge for this software. Virus-free and functional. I recommend.

     

    I hope to be of help to someone in need. good luck

    Mystic Thumbs

    Mystic Thumbs 1.98 (last freeware version)
    OS: Windows 7, Vista and Windows XP, support - x86 and x64.
    The definitive image thumbnail generator for Windows Explorer.
    MysticThumbs generates thumbnails of many image types not natively supported by Windows. It does this transparently and in the background for Explorer so you don't have to run a seperate application to preview your images.
    It is a native Windows Explorer plugin which means you don't have to do anything other than install it. This means you don't have any new interfaces to learn, think about or otherwise deal with.
    Home (shareware)

     
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    May 21, 2013 9:22 AM   in reply to Marian Driscoll

    I have to say that in an IMAGING program (doh, 'images' Adobe, wakey, wakey), removing the preview image within the Open dialog box has to be the most dumbest design idea I have EVER seen.

     

    I'm sorry, but I don't use this word that often, but I actually find it cretinous.

     
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