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Adobe Premiere Pro v2 questions - help?

Apr 30, 2012 2:30 PM

I'm thinking about installing Adobe Premiere Pro v2 on an Asus Eee PC netbook, its specs are: Atom CPU, ~2 GB RAM, 160 GB HDD, GMA video, netbook was purchased in late Jan. 2010 from the local Best Buy store, brand-new, so no Sandy Bridge in this one, Oh, and it runs XP_sp3. I'm already running Adobe Photoshop CS2 on it currently, Photoshop runs, executes with no problems whatsoever. And as far as I understand, I can open photoshop files in premiere and edit them in photoshop, but how exactly does this work?

 

Can you edit a scene from a move in this way (like copy/paste another person/article of clothing from another photo/move scene onto the scene you're editing like you do when editing in photoshop only)?

 

Will my netbook (it's about 10 - 11 inch display) run premiere adequately, and let me open photoshop files in premiere to edit them in photoshop?

 

Does photoshop have to be running at same time as premiere in order to do this?

 

 

Thanks in advance.

 

 

EDIT -  screen display resolution only goes up to 1024x600. If I try to run it at 1024x768, it freezes for a sec or so, then switches right back to 1024x600 automatically. So I'm thinking of maybe running Photoshop and Premiere in a XP guest Virtual machine on my i3 370M CPU @ ~2 GHz,, 4 GB RAM, 500 GB HDD, 1 GB Nvidia GPU Acer laptop since its host OS is Windows 7 Home Premium, just so I can run/use Premium to edit my movies and burn them onto DVD for people to watch on their home TV's from a TV-connected DVD player - so will this be adequate instead of the netbook for running Premiere?

 

The guest XP can be set up to use 3D acceleration from the VM console.

 

But how will I get my content out of the guest VM (VMWare Player v3) and onto DVD?

 
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    Apr 30, 2012 2:33 PM   in reply to angelalien548
     
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    Apr 30, 2012 2:35 PM   in reply to angelalien548

    Forget about it on an underspecced, underpowered system like that and in the wrong forum. This is for CS5+

     
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    Apr 30, 2012 4:40 PM   in reply to angelalien548

    I moved your topic.  You're in the proper forum now.

     

    Jeff

     
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    Apr 30, 2012 4:52 PM   in reply to angelalien548

    Your netbook is definitely not a good system for trying to run Premiere Pro 2.0.  Your VM might work, but the only way to find out is for you to try it.  It's not very likely that anyone will have that setup, even if you find someone who still has version 2.

     

    Jeff

     
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    Apr 30, 2012 7:26 PM   in reply to angelalien548

    >how will I get my content out of the guest VM (VMWare Player v3) and onto DVD?

     

    Version 2 included integrated DVD creation... not very complex, but a playable DVD

     

    For easy searching, download the product user guide PDF(s)

     

    The individual CS5 pages also have links to the earlier user guide pages - I don't know if the links go all the way back to v2

     

    CS5 User Guides - online and PDF (right click PDF link to save PDF to your hard drive)

    http://blogs.adobe.com/premiereprotraining/2010/08/help-documents-for- creative-suite-5-pdf-and-html.html

     

    ADDED - http://www.adobe.com/support/documentation/archived_content.html

     

    The latest I could find was CS3... you may want to check eBay for a book to tell you about v2

     
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    May 1, 2012 8:06 PM   in reply to angelalien548

    When someone, anyone, replies to a post, the author may no longer make changes to that post, it is switched to read only status

     

    Since v2 is so old, you may have a really hard time finding a book for that version... check used book stores

     

    Added... http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Premiere-Pro-Classroom-Book/dp/0321385519

     
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    May 2, 2012 10:24 AM   in reply to angelalien548

    You will find Pro2 user guide under F1 within Pro2.

     
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    May 5, 2012 8:25 AM   in reply to angelalien548

    I think that is call rotoscoping, if you want to Google for information

     

    I have never done such, so have no idea what is involved

     
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    May 7, 2012 6:47 PM   in reply to angelalien548

    VOB is the form of MPEG2 that goes on a DVD... and I can't remember if PPro2 will import VOB/MPG or not

     

    If not, there are programs which convert VOB/MPG to DV AVI

     

    Do some reading at these links... some free, some for $$, to find a converter

     

    Tools to Convert to DV-AVI http://forums.adobe.com/thread/415317

    Convert http://premierepro.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ:How_do_I_convert_my_files%3F

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    Convert your files to DV-AVI Type II with 48KHz 16-bit Audio

    As well as the links just above, use Google to find conversion software

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    I have NOT used the products below, I only forward due to other mentions... so YMMV and all the usual disclaimers... check the links and read to find out if one of the products listed below will rip or convert the files you have to something you need for editing

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    http://www.corel.com/servlet/Satellite/us/en/Product/1175714228541#tab view=tab0

    http://www.womble.com/products/mvw.html

    http://www.magix.com/us/movie-edit-pro/ plus $5 Ship

    http://www.nchsoftware.com/prism/index.html

    http://www.videoredo.com/en/index.htm

    http://www.nchsoftware.com/prism/index.html Converter

    http://www.daniusoft.com/media-converter-ultimate.html

    http://www.deskshare.com/dmc.aspx Digital Media Converter

    http://www.any-dvd-ripper.com/any-dvd-ripper-windows.html

    http://www.deskshare.com/dvd-ripping-software.aspx

    http://www.dvdcopysoftware-reviews.com/dvd-cloner/

    http://www.topsoftwareol.com/product/Video/Video_Converter_Standard.ht ml

    http://www.erightsoft.com/SUPER.html Multi-Converter <-- supposed to be very good

    http://download.cnet.com/FreeStar-Free-Video-Converter/3000-2194_4-108 54990.html

    http://www.dvddecrypter.org.uk/ or http://www.mrbass.org/dvdrip/

    http://www.flaskmpeg.net/download.php Mpeg to AVI Converter

    http://www.squared5.com/ MPEG Streamclip Converter

    http://www.virtualdub.org/ Mpeg to AVI Converter

    http://www.sothinkmedia.com/video-converter/

    http://www.videohelp.com/tools/XviD4PSP

     
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    May 21, 2012 8:01 AM   in reply to angelalien548

    >home movies (videos) saved as .VOB files on DVD's

     

    Go back and re-read what I posted on May 7

     

    Have you tested to see if PPro2 will directly import the VOB files?

     
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    May 21, 2012 8:08 AM   in reply to angelalien548

    Do you have Photoshop-Extended (I thought that was not introduced, until PS CS3, and is an expanded version of Photoshop)?

     

    With PS-Extended, if you have one of a very limited type/CODEC Video, you CAN Import that. The limitations are basically DV-AVI and MOV with a limited set of CODEC's, such as Animation.

     

    If you do not have PS-Extended, and have PS before about CS 5, you should be able to Import a FLM (Film Strip) into it, to edit Frame by Frame. You will need to Import your VOB (an MPEG-2, inside the VOB container) into PrPro, or will need to rip the MPEG-2 from the VOB (many software programs can rip the MPEG-2), Import that MPEG-2, and then Export as a Filmstrip. Note: your computer will need to be stout to handle a Filmstrip w/ much Duration, as you are Opening many, many Images (one for each Frame) in PS.

     

    Good luck,

     

    Hunt

     
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    May 21, 2012 1:50 PM   in reply to angelalien548

    >single VOB file and rip the MPEG-2 from it to import into PS, ok, so how many images would I be opening?

     

    Null question... VOB/MPG are movie files, not picture files... you will not be opening images, you will be importing a movie file

     

    Have you tried to import a VOB into PPro2 to see if it will work? (I know that later versions will directly import VOB, I no longer have v2 so don't know if it will import and use a VOB)

     

    If v2 will not import/open a VOB, go back to what I wrote on May 7 to re-read what you should convert to for editing... which is DV AVI Type II with 48KHz 16-bit Audio, not MPG

     

    >cut out this sequence in PS or PPro - which do I use, and how do I do it?

     

    You use PPro to edit a video... which will be described in the book you have

     

    >opening many, many images from the MPEG-2 file in PS CS2 for editing?

     

    A video file does consist of X number of images per second, but PPro does not really treat a video file as separate images

     
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    May 21, 2012 4:49 PM   in reply to angelalien548

    Checking the dusty Adobe Archive of Ancient Software, and found that Photoshop CS 3 was the first version to offer an Extended version, just as I thought. With CS 2, you do not have the ability to Open Video files directly, and only FilmStrip files, when one Exports the Timeline as a FilmStrip.

     

    I'd take only a single VOB file and rip the MPEG-2 from it to import into PS, ok, so how many images would I be opening?

     

    This depends. What is the Duration of the Video in seconds (d)? What is the FPS of the Video (f)? The answer will be d x f = number of Frames, or Still Images.

     

    Note: the FilmStrip option was dropped in PrPro, a version, or two back, but was still available in PrPro 2.0. Also, PS has dropped FilmStrip support, IIRC, and maybe with the CS 5 version. Earlier versions of the programs should still have it.

     

    Good luck,

     

    Hunt

     
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    May 21, 2012 4:52 PM   in reply to John T Smith

    John T.,

     

    If my feeble memory serves me, VOB (only 100% DVD-compatible VOB's) Import was added in the second, or third update for CS 4. Even the initial release of CS 4 did not have it, though it had been added to PrElements 7, which came out at about the same time. PrPro was just slower to implement it.

     

    Hunt

     
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    May 21, 2012 4:55 PM   in reply to John T Smith

    PPro does not really treat a video file as separate images

     

    To a degree, it can, i.e. Exporting to an Image Sequence (this has probably totally replaced the older FilmStrip option), or in earlier versions, as a FilmStrip.

     

    Back when, the FilmStrip format was often used to RotoScope footage in Photoshop.

     

    However, I believe that FilmStrip support has been removed from each program.

     

    Hunt

     
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    May 22, 2012 4:56 PM   in reply to angelalien548

    Back on May 7 I said... "I have NOT used the products below, I only forward due to other mentions"

     

    I do not edit VOB files... I do not convert VOB files... I do not use MPEG Streamclip... I said nothing because I have nothing to say

     

    If you can't get MPEG Streamclip to work, I suggest clicking some of the other links I posted on May 7 to find a different product

     

    I know from past messages (not to speak for Bill) that he uses a product that I THINK is named "Digital Media Converter" which is one of the links I provided before

     

    I really have no other information on converting a VOB or MPG to DV AVI Type 2 with 48KHz 16-bit Audio to be able to edit

     
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    May 22, 2012 4:55 PM   in reply to angelalien548

    ADDED http://www.deskshare.com/media-converter.aspx is the current link for Digital Media Converter... I am "fairly" sure this is what Bill uses... there is a trial, so give it a test

     
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    May 22, 2012 8:55 PM   in reply to angelalien548

    Great... TWO Greats!

     

    1st that you figured out how to get everything working

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    2nd and maybe even MORE important... you made notes!!!

     

    If I had a quarter for everytime someone posted a message with something like "I did this once but can't remember how, could someone please tell me what I forgot?" I could have retired a year ago, not 3.5 months ago

     

    Now, just keep working through the lessons in the book... with your files so the work means more... and you are on your way to a finished project

     
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    May 23, 2012 7:21 PM   in reply to angelalien548

    Start at http://forums.adobe.com/index.jspa and use the drop down window to select forums

     

    >Dell M1530 with a Core Duo processor @ 2 GHz, 256 MB Nvidia 8500M video card, 4 GB max RAM, a 300 GB HDD, and runs XP (32-bit) natively - how do you guys think premiere will run in this computer?

     

    For SD video, you will be able to "slowly" do editing... until your one hard drive fills up

     

    I'm not really the person to say much about using a laptop, since I built my desktop computer, but you will "someday, maybe soon" need a 2nd hard drive dedicated to video files

     

    Trying to use only ONE Hard Drive for Video Editing

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    You are a music conductor, with a baton that you use to point to various parts of the orchestra... this is like Windows pointing to various parts of the hard drive to do Windows housekeeping or to load program segments for various functions

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    Now, at the same time and with the same hand... while still using the baton to conduct the orchestra... pick up a bow and play a fiddle... this would be doing something with your video file at the same time as all the other work

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    You as a person cannot do both at the same time with the same hand

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    A computer is a LITTLE better, in that it can switch from one kind of task to another very quickly... but not quickly enough for EASY video editing

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    You need AT LEAST two hard drives (separate drives, never a partition http://forums.adobe.com/thread/650708 for more) with Windows (or Mac OS) and software on your boot drive, and video files on a 2nd drive so the boot drive is not slowed down by trying to do everything

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    Partition = Crash http://forums.adobe.com/thread/957286

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    I find that the three drives I use work very well for me, for editing AVCHD video... some people use a 4th drive, so video INPUT files are on drive three and all OUTPUT files are on drive four... I only bought a mid-tower case instead of a full tower case (my bad... but had to fit in the space available on my office desk!) so I use the three drives that will fit

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    Depending on your exact hardware (motherboard brand & model AND USB2 enclosure brand & model AND external hard drive brand & model) AND the type of video file, you may... or may NOT... be able to use an external USB2 hard drive for SD (Standard Definition) video editing

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    Steve Grisetti in the Premiere Elements forum http://forums.adobe.com/thread/856208 and Jim Simon in the Premiere Pro forum http://forums.adobe.com/thread/856433 use USB externals for editing

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    A USB3 hard drive connected to a motherboard with USB3 is supposed to be fast enough for video editing (I don't have such, so don't know) but eSata DOES have a fast enough data transfer for video editing... I have not used the eSata Dock below... for reference only, YMMV and all the usual disclaimers

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    http://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-BlacX-eSATA-Docking-Station/dp/B001A 4HAFS/ref=cm_cmu_pg_t

     
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