(In Response to Joe, as the "New & Improved" forum layout does not yet show these things... )

In very general terms, there are some good folk, who hang out and contribute to the Forum Comments forum, but then there are a few "bouncers," or "hall monitors," and they can be rather a pain, from time to time. I hang out there, as I guess that I like to *****, and am very opinionated, so it suits my purposes. Also, John C (Adobe-Admin) is usually very quick to answer questions, with his unique "under the hood look" at the forums, so I always learn something. Some of the rest? Well, I just ignore them, which is easy, when one comes to "know the players."

Sorry for your bad experience, and while not unheard of, is not really the norm there. Still, you know that you are welcome here - like the old Gary Portnoy song from Cheers, "Where everybody knows your name... " Think of me as Norm, Jim Simon as Cliff and maybe you can be Sam?

Hunt

John T,

Though the Forum Comments forum is probably the best place for this, I have now lived with the new layout, and the skins, off-and-on for over a week. I do not like it!!!!!

• I miss having the "In Response To"
• I miss having the Post Number
• I miss having a poster's history shown
• I miss having a Last Post button, and especially with a multi-page thread
• I miss having the links to related forums on the right
• I miss having the background of posts alternating
• I miss being able to go to the "other" Discussions button, to stay on the page, where I was, with multi-page threads

I will admit that I am a status quo person, but have seen nothing to convince me that giving up the above, has improved anything - anything at all. As mentioned elsewhere, I am usually using Wireless G, so maybe the great speed increases that others claim, are lost in that bottleneck, but pages load about the same speed, as "normal" days with the old forum. While all navigation was not perfect then, it is a kludge now, at least for me.

Hunt - just color me dissatisfied.

Most of the items on your list are coming back. I think that the target for the update is in a couple of weeks. I'm pushing for sooner.

As an administrator, I can fix one or two of those items myself, as soon as I have the time. (I've already undone a lot of the damage, on the first day after the "re-skin".)

(An Addition to Bill's list)

It also galls me that if I navigate to a sub-forum, and have not been there for a few minutes, I get a "collapsed" view, and have to click on a thread, to get the full display.

Next, as we do not have (or maybe "yet have," as Todd struggles along) the Related Sub-forums box, to get to some, like Premiere Elements, I have to go to History, find a Reply to something in that forum, or go to the main Adobe Forums page, navigate to Premiere Elements, and then rinse and repeat.

Nah, guess that the new skins are just not my thing.

Sorry to be a "party pooper" (can I say that here?), but I find more to hate, or at least moan about, than to like.

Will try to refrain from more vitriol, until Todd and John C, have had an opportunity to "make it all better."

Hunt

@ shooternz

I copied/pasted this part of your post with no problem, so I wonder if anyone else is having that issue.

"Well I would do that Todd except here is another example of the busted forum format.

I can not  copy and paste anything in these forums anymore. (Would mean a re type of my rant)"

"Rod, I am afraid that I cannot do that... I am so afraid... Rod, don't pull those memory cards... Daisy, Daisy... " [Spoken in the voice of Douglas Rain]

Yes, there IS an Alien Intelligence at work here - not quite what I had expected with the implementation of "AI."

Hunt

Rod,

Good luck and safe driving with your move. Guess that we need to meet up at a MN restaurant now, as Restaurant Daniel will be a bit of a treck for you.

BTW - don't hold out much hope to be inspired by that "ball o' twine." It's kind of like "Balanced Rock" in Arkansas - hardly worth the price of admission. We followed the signs to that "point of interest," and ended up at a cabin in the woods. I swear that the scene that we encountered was right out of Deliverance - front porch, and characters included. We paid, and walked the path, that was pointed out. I began feeling a bit like John Voight. There WAS a "balanced rock," but it was about 3' high...

Hunt

As you travel this great nation, and stop in to explore Americana, if you here THIS music, leave in haste, and do not look back!

Actually, I love to travel by auto, and especially if I do not absolutely have to be somewhere, at a particular time. I was always a push-over for a "road trip," and initiated many.

When we were first married (too long ago to cite), wife worked 3 - 11 shifts, which usually actually went till Midnight. She worked 5 - 6 weeks straight, often with double-shifts, to get a very long weekend. I'd pick her up at the hospital, and off we'd go. I'd drive until I started to fade, with her sleeping in the passenger seat. We'd usually make it to Chatanooga, Knoxville, Asheville, or maybe only to Atlanta, and then get a room. Next morning, we'd launch out again, usually heading to the mountains, and our adventure. We'd do about 5 of those per year, with some longer, than others. During those years, we had many lovely trips, and even when the weather did not cooperate, we still had fun. This year, we are trying to "travel back in time," and relive a bit of that. We are cheating a bit, as we are flying into Atlanta, and then renting a MB C-350 Sport (will miss wife's car, but cannot take time to drive from AZ), to head out along as many backroads, as we can, to get to Blackberry Farm. Though some of OUR highways are now gone (there was little Interstate then), some still exist, and I am mapping as many spots, as I can, such as Ducktown, TN. Lot of memories around there. Yeah, a great road trip is just what I need, and something that I greatly enjoy.

Now, I inherited my wife's Canon G-10, when she wanted something smaller (Panny Lumix, about the size of a fat credit card), and have been using it, since my Nikon bag will not fit in the little planes that UAL flies out of PHX, and its battery is amazing. I charge it about 2x per year, and it keeps going, and going, and going. I often forget to charge the sucka' and it has never quit on me. That is simply amazing, at least to me.

Enjoy, take your time, see America, and travel safely.

Hunt