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Pantone color looks different after upgrading Illustrator...?

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Wed, 07 Aug 2013 17:10:49 GMT

I just upgraded from Illustrator CS5 to Illustrator CC. I just noticed that the pantone colors look different - and print different. I opened on old file from Illustrator CS5 that had this pantone color (Pantone 179), and I opened a new file that was created in CC that has the exact same pantone color. Illustrator CC is showing them differently on the screen, and when I send them to print (I work for a large format printing company that needs pantones to be accurate), the colors look different.

See the image I attached below - both of those colors are set at Pantone 179. When I print them, they look exactly like they appear on the screen - one of them much more red than the other. The one on the left is how it is supposed to appear, and that file was set up in Illustrator CS5. The one on the right was cut and paste from the file on the left into a new file and saved in Illustrator CC. Nothing else was changed.

Please help me get this problem resolved - this is going to cause a lot of problems for me if I can't get this fixed.

Thank you

UPDATE: I just tried converting the pantones to CMYK to see what happens. The original file (the one on the left in the photo attached) converted Pantone 179 to C: 0, M: 79, Y: 100, K: 0. However, the CC file (the one on the right in the attached photo) converted the same Pantone to C: 0, M: 90.56, Y: 82.8, K: 0.

Josh

Looking to Make a New ICC Profile

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Wed, 29 Oct 2014 14:30:25 GMT

Hey guys. I've been looking to make a custom ICC Profile (for the monitor) for quite a while, but I've run into too many contradictions and dead ends to continue on. I've read in several places that PhotoShop CS6 can be used to make a new profile, but I've seen many conflicting points and thoughts on this. Suffice to say, I've grown confused on the matter. To be clear- I want to create a new, custom ICC Profile for the monitor. I am not editing old profiles, and I'm not making a profile for a printer. Is it possible to do this using PhotoShop CS6, or is it not? If it is not, where/how do I go about creating one? Any help on the matter is much appreciated.

~Lilian

Best monitors for color management

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Tue, 16 Sep 2014 02:45:33 GMT

Wanting to buy a monitor that will display the RGB COLOR profile

Colors off when printing on Epson printer from Indesign

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Tue, 21 Oct 2014 13:37:21 GMT

I'm new to Indesign. I'm a photographer trying to print a booklet for a handmade book.

My question is about preparing photographic images for use in Indesign.

I have JPEGS, saved as RGB files at 300DPI. I'm printing on an Epson R2000 using a custom paper and custom ICC profile. In my Color Management dialog I have Let Indesign handle colors and the correct printer profile selected. Output color is Composite RGB. The colors are really off so obviously I'm doing something wrong. I'm no expert so any advice much appreciated!

After upgrading illustrator CS6 to CC blacks are not working fine

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Tue, 30 Sep 2014 17:18:58 GMT

Once I create a black object K100 after I go and select the picker or the fill box, the color shows C60% M 90%. What can I do? I need to prepare masking files for printing. I set all the settings to display accurately . PLEASE HELO

Visual representations of color spaces

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Wed, 10 Sep 2014 18:32:56 GMT

I copied these diagrams from the program called Color Space ...

Can be downloaded from here: COULEUR.ORG

I think that it draws spectral locus on xyY by just plotting matching x, y and Y values for every interval of monochromatic lights on the spectrum ... just like we draw the locus line in XYZ by plotting matching tristimulus values X, Y and Z.

Because the underlying data for the most saturated colors human can see is CIE XYZ color matching functions, I think that we can draw the line of spectral locus in every model originated from CIE XYZ by just making necessary transformations to the XYZ tristimulus values for the intended model.

3D representation of the entire human gamut is more tricky, I think. I will ask about it, after getting your confirmation about the spectrum locus.

What colorguide

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Sun, 31 Aug 2014 13:16:59 GMT

Hi,

After many years of designing for screen media only I'm now about to produce a complete corporate design guideline, in other words I need to reference my colors in pms and cmyk as well. When reading about this topic I get really confused cause there are SO many colorguides from Pantone to choose from! All I want is to compare cmyk with pms and be able to know how they look on print. I understand theres many paper types and physical surfaces out there, but I think I'm fine with coated and non coated paper as reference. Do anyone have a product suggestion and perhaps a descriptive link to go? What kind of fan should I get and what is mandatory to have in my toolbox?

Does anyone have a GRACoL compatible CIE chromaticity diagram I can use?

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Sat, 23 Aug 2014 15:44:05 GMT

I need to illustrate an article about color theory, and would like to use the famous horseshoe-shaped CIE chromaticity diagram. Does anyone know where I can locate one suitable for printing in CMYK (GRACoL profile)?

(I am aware that the diagram illustrates a space much larger than can be printed. I'm going to use it to illustrate a concept, so the mismatch is not a problem for me.)

Color washed out in Illustrator CS6

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Wed, 29 Aug 2012 19:22:52 GMT

Using Illustrator on Mac OS 10.7.4
We've been using Illustrator for years and have come across a problem we never encountered before.
PMS spot colors appear washed out on the screen and appear washed out when viewing them in a pdf.

Customers are complaining about their proofs as well.

What happened?

Does anybody know if there a book of all the color hex codes that you can buy physically.

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Mon, 01 Sep 2014 20:05:50 GMT

Does anybody know if there a book of all the color hex codes that you can buy physically.

PANTONE 4-Color Process in Adobe

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Mon, 29 Jul 2013 15:48:48 GMT

Tearing my hair out here, so I'm turning to people no doubt far more knowledgeable and experienced than me!

I've been given some style guidelines which contain colours referenced by the Pantone Process system, e.g. Pantone DE 196-2 C.

Is it possible to find this colour as a swatch in an Adobe application? It seems that all of the Adobe Pantone libraries use a different numbering convention (PMS).

I've heard mention of "Pantone Process Coated" libraries - I'm not seeing that as part of my CS6 Design Standard installation. I do have "Pantone CMYK Coated", but it uses a numbering convention along the lines of "Pantone P 123-4 C".

Any help? If you're given a colour spec using Pantone Process colours, how do you get started in Adobe?

Many thanks in advance

Pete.

Edit existing Adobe Swatch Exchange (ase) file

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Mon, 27 Jun 2011 18:40:57 GMT

I have created different ase files, sometimes I want to remove or add new swatch to the existing ase file. Since it is quicker to create a new ase, but I dont see any option to do that and I google it which gave me nothing, I wonder if it is possible ?

Thankz very much ~

Colour Changes when exported to PDF

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Thu, 21 Aug 2014 02:08:45 GMT

I’m using CS5. Every time I create a PDF from InDesign the colours become completely different. Is this because of the colour management? How can I fix this problem?

The colour profile assigned for the creative suite is Europe Prepress 3. RGB: Adobe RGB (1998) CMYK: Coated FOGRA39 (ISO 12647-2:2004). The PDF Setting is the High Quality Print. The ICC Profile for the computer monitor is sRGB display (default).

Advice on what profiling hardware/software to get

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Fri, 15 Aug 2014 08:58:29 GMT

Please can i get your thoughts on what color profiling software/hardware i should get to calibrate my printers and scanner.

I work at family printing business where we run 2 litho presses (Komori Lithrone & Sanxin), 1 x large format (Epson 7800) and 1 x digital printer (Oki ES9410).

For over 10 years i have had experience with color management and i understand the process fully, but i have never used hardware to create profiles. Up until now our presses and large format machine have been calibrated by external bodies, but now i would like to attempt to calibrate our scanner (Epson GT10000+) and our digital & large format machines.

My knowledge is that x-rite are the best in the business but im not sure what actual models are best for my purposes, but i welcome all advice in this matter.

We use both Mac and windows computers if that makes any difference.

All the best

Andy Barrington

Correct name of L in HSL color model

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Fri, 15 Aug 2014 13:05:13 GMT

In some writings L stands for lightness and in others L stands for luminosity ... even sometimes for luminance.

Which one is correct?

Which name is used for L in academic papers (or in the original paper defining HSL which I don't have) for the HSL color model?

Additionally, independently from the above question ...

Adobe uses luminosity for L in PDF reference and luminance in ACR ... and lightness in the HSL adjustment tab in Ps.

Do these all refer to same HSL color model ... or they are referring to different things?

Monitor calibration-Profile mismatch warning NOT showing up , yet set in settings

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Wed, 06 Aug 2014 17:02:03 GMT

working with PDI target calibration photos to check on my calibrated monitor.

I always keep warnings for mismatch profile checked in color settings in PS. But target jpegs are being overridden and the embedded " WhackedRGB ", and srgb , show up as Adobe RGB .

I tired getting out of Photoshop and restarted computer …. no help.

Suggestions?

Color settings :working space adobeRGB but what does Monitor profile doing?

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Tue, 29 Jul 2014 22:55:08 GMT

Recently I was reading at Dry Creek Website concerning Photoshop and monitor profile in RGB but it was confusing . It wanted us to make sure we had the correct monitor profile but not ise it as working profle. SO it did not want us to click save

My monitor is callibrated ,I keep my it at ADOBE RGB ,but wondering where do I check in PS CC to confirm it's playing nice with monitor profile ?

Reverse profile for sRGB?

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Thu, 24 Jul 2014 07:59:30 GMT

I realised that the color photos I work on (on my color calibrated system) look different to people on their monitors (most viewers/users are not using calibrated monitors).

Ok, first let me clarify, that I am using calibration not for web view but for my prints to look as I expect them.

That is what brings up this question - so for web view to look like they look on calibrated monitors, what should be done?

1. Simply tag with sRGB

2. Convert to sRGB (for browsers that don't respect profiles)

3. 1 or 2 will not work. A "reverse" profile is needed (?)

Goal: Make the colors as they appear on a profiled monitor to look the same on a non-calibrated monitor. this may mean two separate images?

Example: I order a "blue" shirt from Amazon, it turned out to be a very different color!

What is better for online shopping? I figured, stores don't really bother, and they are addressing masses with sRGB. Even then, using a calibrated monitor for online purchase, will be a bad idea. Or not?

Problème de synchronisation colorimétrique

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Fri, 25 Jul 2014 12:46:52 GMT

Bonjour, j'utilise photoshop et illustrator. Quand je créer un rond rouge par exemple dans illustrator j'ai un certain code # pour ma couleur. Quand je copie et colle ce rond rouge dans photoshop je me retrouve avec un nouveau code couleur #.

J'ai utilisé bridge pour synchroniser mes couleurs mais rien a faire. Je dois louper quelque chose. Si vou pouvez m'aider, merci beaucoup.

Behavior of GRACoL white in Photoshop Channels

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Tue, 22 Jul 2014 17:54:42 GMT

My company has recently switched to GRACoL 2006 from SWOP as part of our G7 initiative. Everything is lovely EXCEPT in Photoshop, when working in channels, white = 1% of whatever channel you are in.

1. Set color to GRACoL

2. Make a new CMYK document in Photoshop.

3. Go to the Channels palette, choose any channel and paint into it with pure white.

The result is 1% of whichever channel you were in. You can use levels to make it more visible.

You will not get this result painting with the same white in your layers. You will not get this result if you are using SWOP.

If you are in your channels and you select all and delete to bring up your fill dialogue (on a flattened image) using your White foreground or background color will get you a 1% fill. Using the White option from the dialogue results in actual white.

My users have reason to work in the channels palette, I cannot figure out any way to get around this. I am assuming that this is the result of GRACoL having a LAB value for white that is not 100.0.0. In the layers (the normal work space) Photoshop is smart enough to know that the result I want is 0 ink coverage when I use white, but for some reason, this doesn't work inside of channels. Is there a setting buried somewhere that could fix this? Will I have to get a customized version of GRACoL with 100.0.0 LAB for white? I'm at a loss.

CS6 Pantone Plus Library Issues

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Tue, 11 Sep 2012 18:24:24 GMT

We are having problems maintaining color consistency for digital output (as well as color shifts on proofs) due to the recent CS6 Pantone Plus color library update.
We have had to remove the updated libraries and replace them with the previous versions due to the unexpected color differences on output.

Has anyone else been having problems with the Plus update?
Is there a good explanation of why it was changed in the first place? We want to make sure we're not missing a good reason for the revised color libraries.
Chuck

Help replicating #5 web coated paper to proof a catalog during design.

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Wed, 09 Jul 2014 14:22:05 GMT

I wasn't sure where to post this, but I'm having a bit of a problem. I design an 80 page catalog thats printed on very cheap paper, but the client prints roughly 10k copies and distributes it across the country through a big print house. The problem is that we would like to get our color proofs that we use en route to the final product as close as possible to what RR Donnelly uses (can't buy it they are 1300lb rolls fo paper).

I haven't been able to find any good answers from printers yet so I thought I would ask you guys. Basically the paper is 75 brightness (or less) and coated. It almost looks gray, and its very thin. Not many print outfits can print on this, but the point is more getting the color closer to the final product. We know it can't be exact color reproduction without heavy costs.

If any of you have run into a similar problem and found a solution, I would greatly appreciate it!

Why does the color change when I open a warm image in Photoshop CS6?

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Sun, 06 Jul 2014 08:01:07 GMT

Whenever I open a warm color image in Photoshop CS6, the color of the image automatically changes? Please see the attached screenshots below.

What is the solution to this problem? Please Help.

I use Windows 7 Ultimate. Photoshop CS6.

Graphics Card: Intel HD Graphics 2000

Best Laptop/Screen Suited for Photoshop & Color

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Wed, 02 Jul 2014 04:11:33 GMT

Tried to be as specific as possible in the title. I'm looking for a portable workstation where my primary focus is painting in Photoshop, and various other 3D apps.

Does anyone have some advice in regards to what sort of specs make up a good display within a laptop, or even some newer models that live up to it well?

Thanks ahead of time, I'll write below what I've been looking at so far, and my budget.

Asus N550JV

Asus Zenbook UX31A

Asus Zenbook ZX500 ( think I found a major contender?!)

Budget: 2500-ish

Thanks guys!

Illustrator changes 100% black image to 4 color seperation

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Thu, 26 Jun 2014 15:35:33 GMT

I have designed an image in Photoshop using 100% black. When I place the file into Illustrator and sample my blacks, they have been changed to a 4 color separation. When I look at the pdf in Acrobat's output preview, it is a separation. It is not a display issue. I can place that file into Indesign & it's like it was designed in Photoshop, 100% black. Can someone tell me how to get it to stay as it is suppose to be? I have tried the output black accurately in preferences among numerous other things. I have been using Indesign and Photoshop for about 3 years, but just recently began to design and edit with illustrator. I really like it but I need this problem resolved. I have many files now that I will have to go back and fix as I only noticed the problem today. Sure, it will print, but we prefer to only print our blacks on the black plate. Help!!!

CMYK to RGB conversion in photoshop

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Sat, 21 Jun 2014 09:56:23 GMT

Hi,

I have synchronized my colour settings in bridge to be the same across all my Adobe software, it's currently on Europe Prepress 3 because that's what I've been taught is correct in Australia. I have a colour swatch of C:0 M:90 Y:15 K:0 and when I change the colour slider to RGB in photoshop is gives me the values: R:200 G:53 B:122 (not sure if this is a good way of converting the colours?)

My initial swatch:

When I key this exact RGB value online it gives me a much darker swatch:

So using multiple cmyk to rgb online converters (to compare) I key in my initial cmyk values and the rgb swatch it converts to is so much brighter and gives me the values R: 255 G:25 B:217

I know I'm doing something wrong. I hope someone can help me with this!

Thanks in advance!

How to Match PMS uncoated to a PMS coated color

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Tue, 17 Jan 2012 16:46:48 GMT

I am looking for help on how to match a PMS uncoated color to closely match a PMS coated color. I know this may sound counter intuitive but here is the situation.

I work for a company that has a corporate color of PMS 285. Their product comes in uncoated kraft cardboard boxes and when we switched the color to the PMS 285 U they freaked out with the color change. A bit too pastel and hard to read. They want a color (PMS 285C) that matches what they get on nice shiny, coated marketing collateral. How can I closely match a color that will be printed on an uncoated material to an ideal coated PMS color?

Hope this makes since. Thank you for your help.

Shannon

Looking for color feedback on new site related to web storefronts

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Mon, 16 Jun 2014 05:45:59 GMT

I'm new to the forums, and getting back into design. I have a new website that will provide reviews of different ecommerce/web storefront solutions and tutorials on setting them up. In addition to technical hurdles to make it easier to use Kuler, I'm looking for feedback on the color palette I'm considering.

I'm not sure if this forum is purely for technical trouble/help, or if it's intended to provide design help/feedback as well. The site is barely up and running, no content as of yet other than a few sentences and image so it's not blank and doesn't have the stock page. Considering the nature of the site, I'm thinking of using the following color palette since it's about web storefronts/e-commerce. Green seems to be the primary color since we're talking about money/commerce.

Any feedback on this color choice: Adobe Kuler ?

Thanks, and if there is a more relevant forum to post for design choices/feedback please let me know.

Sebastian

XYZ white point of an image taken in the shade.

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 08:36:59 GMT

Hello, I would like to know what would be the white point, in a XYZ colour space, of an image taken in the shade. I assume it would be a of higher temperature (bluer) than the normal daylight.

Lost in the new format of forum. Where are my bookmarks?

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Wed, 11 Jun 2014 16:58:59 GMT

I am no able to get to see the places I replied and/or bookmarked (I think there was some such feature earlier that I used in the forum). My own cxontributions, I do see, but not sure if it is showing all of them . Anyone knows what happened to earlier bookmarks? "Why cant we be happy and settled with things working fine? Alas, that is what we belive to be progress."

Programs not displaying image colors correctly?

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Tue, 10 Jun 2014 04:59:49 GMT

Hi all,

I realize that my question has a bit bigger scope than just Adobe, but I haven't found a solution anywhere else thus far, so bare with me on this please. And if you need any more info then I will gladly supply it.

I look a my photos a lot on my computer (mostly my desktop at home). Well this summer I will mostly be using my laptop (Asus N56, Win8.1 Pro 64x) and have noticed that my images don't look quite right in Adobe Bridge, Photoshop, Windows Photo Viewer and Nikon ViewNX 2. All of the programs look fine on my desktop but don't seem like it on my laptop.

The images do display correctly when set as the desktop background, previewed in file explorer, hosted on Flickr, or the file is directly viewed in Google Chrome.

I have tried calibrating my screen to no avail.

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For reference, here are screenshots of the images displaying with the correct coloring and such:

Desktop Background:

File Explorer w/ Previewer:

Hosted on Flickr:

File Directly In Google Chrome:

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Here the images are displayed incorrectly:

Windows Photo Viewer:

Adobe Bridge:

Nikon ViewNX 2:

Photoshop w/out Proof Colors:

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One of the strange things is that both Adobe Bridge and ViewNX 2 initially load with the correct imagery. Within a couple seconds the images then resume the discoloration.

Adobe Bridge upon initial loading:

ViewNX 2 upon initial loading:

NOTE: Thumbnails are correct while the enlargement is not.

I did try clearing the thumbnail cache in Bridge with no positive result.

Also strange is that when I turn on color proof to Monitor RGB in photoshop the picture is then correct.

In addition I tried shooting in both Adobe RGB and sRGB on my camera, with the same results for both embedded color profiles

So from what I’ve observed, it’s not any single program but a range of them. I’ve tried changing the color settings within the programs and it made no difference from what I saw. So it seems like there has to be something happening behind the scenes, possibly pertaining to Windows.

Here is a link to the image on Flickr for comparison: All sizes | B&W Tunnel | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

The picture is available for download, so if it's file related perhaps someone will pickup on it.

Color Gamut, Intent, profile conversion… bad result… what should be the workflow?

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Mon, 21 Oct 2013 09:18:08 GMT

This color management thing is driving me crazy! Really. If I start I may end up in a mashup of several things and spoil the focus for any title to of the post. So I will stick (try to atleast) to just what may be expected from the title I have given this post (hopefully it is apt!)

Ok. So first, I am having a hard time getting my slide scans to behave, that is, look in digital as good as they look on the wall when projected! It is white wall, in case one wonders my color management expectations are shifted due to a blue wall. Scans are dark, very dark. Specs: My monitor is calibrated (so they look even more dark). I have to use gamma 2.2 in silverfast to get them to show details in the shadows. Specs: I am using HDR scans which are supposed to be darker due to multiple exposure/scans.

Once out of Silverfast HDR, I get them into Photoshop.

Specs: Photoshop CS6. Image specs: RGB 16bit color. Embedded profile used. Here are the color settings from Silverfast and Photoshop (see images below)

Silver Fast Settings related to Color and CMS, I have moved to the end of post.

Let me explain the issue first:

1. Color image has issues:

- bad magenta colors in sky

- Highlights have some sort of ornage/peach which looks odd

2. Controlling color by various methods results in one or the other problem

- one part is fine, the rest is screwed

- gamut warning goes away from say the cloud edges, it moves to the middle or vice versa

But this is good illustration of what I came to know, color gamuts not visible on monitors are generally the "blues" and "greens". I guess these saturated color regions are the ones giving gamut warnings.

Assumed Workflow:

1. Get the image in Pshop

2. Play with it to get desired result

3. Convert to profile and format for printer (cmyk magazine print)

2 is just not under control due to color not behaving consistently. That magenta just does not become neutral in the sky!

3 Now, when I convert to say CMYK or RGB (have tried both), I still have that awful magenta and the bad highlights over rocks and the field. I believe the iamge has more data, but with the intent, wont the conversion bring those awful looking colors to something closer to expectations? (magenta should become a bluish or greyish color)? Instead they remain just the same!

QUESTION:

What should be the workflow to get a high gamut image to a lower gamut image, preserving whatever we can?

My assumption to this simple workflow seemed to be wrong. Please help. Also, it may be due to the significantly large 2.2 gamma setting of Silverfast that I am forced to use to get details in shadows (?). That is what I share all settings in my workflow.

Here is the image in question: Notice the deep blue are on the left sky, the bright cloud, the rock highlights and the fields and house below.

With Gamut warnings

Scanner Silver Fast Setting:

Photoshop Color Settings, and Color Soft Proofing setting in Photoshop:

Screen proofing in Lr

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Sat, 31 May 2014 21:24:56 GMT

When we make screen proofing in Lr with a B&W photo, histogram shows some colors in some tonal ranges.

Does this mean that this paper can not print neutral tones in those tone ranges?

Appearance of color in Photoshop after calibration, and outside of Photoshop

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Sat, 24 May 2014 03:32:15 GMT

I bought an expensive monitor some time ago which claims to produce the color gamut of Adobe RGB, the NEC PA271W. I also bought an X-rite i1 Display Pro colorimeter, with software, to calibrate my monitor.

After calibration, the images appear right when displayed in Photoshop, and such images print okay on my professional printer with professional profiles, but such images don't appear okay outside of Photoshop, when displayed on my calibrated monitor. They appear far too saturated and contrasty.

When I check what profile is listed under the Color Management tab of my monitor, the default profile is the same as that listed among all the other profiles under Windows/system32/spool/drivers/color.

What's going on, I wonder. Is my video card not compatible with the X-rite calibration process? The video card is the AMD Radeon HD 7700 Series.

Any help would be appreciated.

Perceived brightnesses of a self luminous surface vs a reflective surface both of them having the same luminance values

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Sat, 24 May 2014 15:37:47 GMT

Ceteris paribus, can there be any difference between the perceived brightnesses of a self luminous surface (computer screen) and a reflective surface (paper surfece)?

Color profile

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Sat, 24 May 2014 12:19:20 GMT

Hi!

I have an issue with the color profiles. I have to print my project on two different plotters, one is laser and the other is plotter for bigger formats. My LCD screen is useless so I will print a color palette on both printers and pick the color from the printed palette. My PDF's are done in Illustrator in CMYK mode and than imported in Indesign . Half of the project will be printed from Illustrator's PDF and half from the Indesign. I'm afraid that this will produce two different results because I'm lost on the color profile. Should I assign a profile or use the "don't color manage..." option. I guess I should use the same color profile in Illustrator and Indesign?

Tnx for help!

Where can I get AdobeRGB1998.icm profile?

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Fri, 23 May 2014 15:19:37 GMT

My rip doesn't recognize .icc. Other input profile options for my rip have the .icm extension.

No matter what I do, all my PDFs come out as RGB, instead of CMYK.

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Sat, 05 Apr 2014 20:51:28 GMT

I am running Quark 6.5 with Acrobat version 4.0 Professional's PDFwriter on a PC, under Windows XP.

I can only pake PDFs from my Print menu, by selecting, Adobe PDFwriter, AdobePS Acrobat Distiller or Adobe PDF Converter.

When I attempt to use Export, it doesn't make PDFs at all. So I have to use Print.

I have spent three days sending PDFs to the printing plant and, no matter what settings I adjust, the pre-press expert keeps on telling me thay're all arriving with RGB separation. Now he tells me it's even failing to embed fonts. So it's getting worse.

Would somebody please help? This is killing me.

What is the dot gain setting in the US Web Coated Swop v2 profile?

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Tue, 01 Apr 2014 19:26:17 GMT

Hey guys,

This might seem like a bit of a n00b question, but I really can't find this info any which way I Google it.

What is the default dot gain setting in the US Web Coated SWOP v2 profile?

Allow me to explain my dilema:

My printer told me to use the US Web Coated SWOP v2 this profile for a catalog we're printing. 4/4 on 100# gloss book stock. However I've used that profile in the past and the prints came out darker than I expected them to. I don't have a high enough quality printer to be able to test this in-house, but I'm pretty sure my monitor is not overly bright or set to an overly high contrast level. They indicated to me that their standard dot gain is about 10-15%

I assumed the SWOP v2 profile accounted for 20% dot gain as that appears to be the default for many of the other color settings, but I've never known for sure. I'm trying to decide if I need to use a custom profile with a higher dot gain setting.

Thanks for any help!

Kenzier

CIE tristimulus values

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Mon, 03 Feb 2014 20:27:50 GMT

I'm searching for the unit of CIE XYZ tristimulus values (y-axis on the graph), but I could not success so far. Anyone knowing the unit of these values. Thanks a lot.

Linear workspace

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Sun, 02 Mar 2014 21:20:50 GMT

Is there any negative side effect to use linear workspace with ProPhoto primaries in Ps (as in Lr)?

Color Management Discrepencies Between Bridge, ACR & Photoshop

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Tue, 26 Mar 2013 02:44:33 GMT

Hi - I've had a color management issue I can't wrap my head around which is similar to this infamous thread: http://forums.adobe.com/message/3235601#3235601

I'm hoping with a little more information provided I can get this figured out. The basic problem is that Bridge displays images markedly differently than either ACR or Photoshop. The most common issue is as follows:

With the external monitor as the primary display (and the laptop monitor as a secondary), I start Bridge. Photos will seem to be in the correct gamut for a moment, but it almost immediately desaturates them as if switching gamuts. Opening the image in ACR or Photoshop shows the correct color. See the below:

(Note: on my wide-gamut monitor, there's no clipping on the ACR version - that's how it should look)

There are various permuations to this problem depending on which monitor I have on when I start Bridge, but the above is my general workflow.

Some background:

Lenovo ThinkPad T430s w/ integrated Intel HD4000 graphics

ASUS ProArt Series PA246Q (Wide Gamut)

Photoshop CS6 (using 16-bit ProPhotoRGB as the standard workspace)

Datacolor Spyder4 calibrating both monitors

My settings:

I know there are a bunch of variables, but does anybody see any glaring issues which might explain my problem?

Thanks!

Perceptual reference medium gamut

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Tue, 11 Mar 2014 18:12:48 GMT

For using with percetual intents, ICC specification defines a special gamut called perceptual reference medium gamut (PRMG).

When using perceptual intents, source gamut is mapped to PRMG and then from the PRMG, data are mapped to the output gamut.

It is said that it is optional, but I could not understand why ICC needed to specify such a small gamut for using in perceptual intents in place of defined PCSs (CIEXYZ or CIELAB)

Latest ICC specification explains it, but I could not understand the purpose of it from the specification.

What is the function of it, a function PCS can not do?

I would really appreciate any help.

Thanks a lot.

Help With Color settings

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Fri, 07 Mar 2014 15:36:19 GMT

Please help me to setup the right color setting for my works.

I use Photoshop mainly for photography/photomanip for print and web display.

I have a Dell U2410 IPS monitor.

Photoshp CC

Windows 8

Now my settings Are:

Monitor Preset Modes: sRGB

PS Color Settings: Europe General Purpose 3

sRGB IEC61966-2.1

Coated FOGRA39

PS Proof Setup: Working CMYK

I can't understand if for me is better to work in sRGB or RGB in PS and if i need to set my monitor preset in sRGB or RGB.

Thanks in Advance.

Ink usage for same colors but sent from different workspaces

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Fri, 28 Feb 2014 20:16:33 GMT

Let's say I print green (0,255,0) from Adobe RGB with a printer profile. Then I convert it to ProPhoto RGB (same green is now 76,230,60 in ProPhoto) and print it with the same printer profile. Do inkjet printers use the same ink combination for printing same green but sent from different workspaces?

Camera profiles

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Thu, 27 Feb 2014 21:07:49 GMT

I would like to learn how the demosaiced RGB values are converted to the PCS values by DNG profiles, a numerical example would be very helpful. Thanks a lot.

Monitor Calibration Brightness

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Wed, 26 Feb 2014 16:17:16 GMT

Hello,

yesterday I calibrated a monitor with the Eizo Color Navigator 6 for the first time.

During setting the target the following dialog appeared. And I wondered why they recommend 60cd/m2 to 120cd/m2.

Usually I use Basiccolor Display 5 and there are presets for both prepress and softproofing purposes. Both are based on significantly higher brightness values (120–160).

And that seems a lot more reasonable for me.

The Swiss Competence Center UGRA also recommends 120–160cd/m2.

Is there any reason why a Eizo monitor should be set to a lower brightness?

Thanks

fprince

Color behavior discrepancy: OSX 10.8 (Mountain Lion) vs. OSX 10.7 (Lion)

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Sun, 15 Dec 2013 13:09:01 GMT

Using Photoshop CS6.

NEC 2690, freshly profiled with Spectraview.

In OSX 10.7 (Lion):

Color of image preview in Print dialog matches color of image in document window.

Soft Proof mode ON, colors match. (com-Y ON in document window, Match Print Colors/Show Paper White checked in Print Preview)
Soft Proof mode OFF, colors match. (com-Y OFF in document window, Match Print Colors/Show Paper White unchecked in Print Preview)
In both of these cases, the behavior is as I expect.

HOWEVER,

In OSX 10.8 (Mountain Lion):

Color of image preview in Print dialog DOES NOT match color of image in document window.

Soft Proof mode ON, colors DO NOT match. (com-Y ON in document window, Match Print Colors/Show Paper White checked in Print Preview)
Soft Proof mode OFF, colors DO NOT match. (com-Y OFF in document window, Match Print Colors/Show Paper White unchecked in Print Preview)
Ghost in the machine!!

It seems that there's a handshake missing in the Mountain Lion color path.

Anyone seen this? Any solutions or workarounds that you're aware of?

Thanks,

Rick McCleary

Tag 'pseq': Required tag is not present in .icc color profile - Mac OS X Lion

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Sat, 02 Jun 2012 13:00:08 GMT

I am using a trial version of Adobe CS6 on Mac OS X Lion. I have installed the most recent updates for both softwares and now when I run the Color Sync Utility I get the following errors. Any support is appreciated.

Searching for profiles...

Checking 68 profiles...

/Library/Application Support/Adobe/Color/Profiles/RedBlueYelllow.icc

Tag 'pseq': Required tag is not present.

/Library/Application Support/Adobe/Color/Profiles/Smokey.icc

Tag 'pseq': Required tag is not present.

/Library/Application Support/Adobe/Color/Profiles/TealMagentaGold.icc

Tag 'pseq': Required tag is not present.

/Library/Application Support/Adobe/Color/Profiles/TotalInkPreview.icc

Tag 'pseq': Required tag is not present.

Verify done - found 4 bad profiles.

/Library/Application Support/Adobe/Color/Profiles/RedBlueYelllow.icc

Tag 'pseq': Required tag is not present. Could not be fixed.

/Library/Application Support/Adobe/Color/Profiles/Smokey.icc

Tag 'pseq': Required tag is not present. Could not be fixed.

/Library/Application Support/Adobe/Color/Profiles/TealMagentaGold.icc

Tag 'pseq': Required tag is not present. Could not be fixed.

/Library/Application Support/Adobe/Color/Profiles/TotalInkPreview.icc

Tag 'pseq': Required tag is not present. Could not be fixed.

Repair done - 0 out of 4 profiles fixed.

Converting CMYK to RGB - How to?

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:43:55 GMT

Posted on Acrobat for Windows Forum this morning - then found this group
- Hope someone can help us...

We are a small non-profit working with adults with developmental disabilities ramping up a very short run color printing service for other non-profits. We print/mail newsletters and brochures and give our adults work to do in our workshop setting.

So we have purchased Acrobat Pro 9.0 - and all we want to do is be a printer of "print ready" pdf'S...

Our knowledge of graphic arts and/or acrobat is very limited - we are just users and again, we want to print out submitted PDF's to our HP high end laser (HP CP6015dn) and give our clients great color printing.

Most PDF files we receive work fine and we output what we see and that is what they get but now one client has sent us a file in CMYK and the color is off. I sent him some other PDF's we have used and he tells us our other files are all RGB so...

Can we take his CMYK file and convert it to RGB and then print it out?

If yes, can you explain it to us very simply?

Thanks

Bob