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    <title>Adobe Community: Message List - Alt-dragging behaves different than Copy Paste</title>
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    <pubDate>Mon, 16 Dec 2013 15:55:22 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Alt-dragging behaves different than Copy Paste</title>
      <link>https://forums.adobe.com/message/5934555?tstart=0#5934555</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:5238adae-05f9-463e-aea2-f06dffa69ea3] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;i think this is intentional rather than a bug, though it might be just because i'm used to it that it seems normal. alt-drag keeps things the same place in the stack order; c&amp;amp;p pastes in front.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:5238adae-05f9-463e-aea2-f06dffa69ea3] --&gt;&lt;img src='/beacon?t=1415899291858' /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 16 Dec 2013 15:55:22 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>forums_noreply@adobe.com</author>
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      <dc:date>2013-12-16T15:55:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Alt-dragging behaves different than Copy Paste</title>
      <link>https://forums.adobe.com/message/5934483?tstart=0#5934483</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:e0de1949-0e36-4eea-8d22-28159fd6f711] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;I just reported this through an Adobe Bug Report form, but I'd also like to post it here publicly, so others can be aware of it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The problem happens also with the "Copy" button when double-clicking the Move tool.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;A work-around for using alt-drag and Duplicate to quickly generate several instances of elements, can be achieved by using the Transform Effect, which seems to produce the expected result correctly.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I can supply a fairly simple but already misbehaving example file, if necessary.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;******BUG******&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Concise problem statement:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Alt-drag to copy elements in a complex file with layers in layers, produces not the same result as a normal Copy &amp;amp; Paste. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Steps to reproduce bug:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; 1. Draw elements on top of each other and include some nested layers (so not just nested objects like groups, clipping masks, compounds, etc.)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; 2. Drag the whole bunch with Alt key. You can see all elements correctly moving in wireframe view.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Results:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The elements which were stacked in a nested layer get copied within that sub-layer, yielding a totally different result with regards to the stacking order.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Expected results:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;A new stack of all layers and their elements (including the sub-layer) correctly on top of each other and the original elements.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:e0de1949-0e36-4eea-8d22-28159fd6f711] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 16 Dec 2013 15:44:04 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>forums_noreply@adobe.com</author>
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      <dc:date>2013-12-16T15:44:04Z</dc:date>
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