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      <title>Observations on using Rf for app prototype</title>
      <link>https://forums.adobe.com/message/6903935?tstart=0#6903935</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:019cd440-183e-4278-9ee0-f0a5a7b3bfb4] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 1.5em;"&gt;Been working with Rf for about 2 months on prototyping a web app. I've been able to create a responsive prototype that shows the developers -exactly- how it should look on different screens, which is great! &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 1.5em;"&gt;However, the most frustrating thing is for the non-programmer to understand "Position" types. I have to use a lot of trial and error to get objects to adjust in a logical manner.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Trying to get the page to do simple adjustments can take hours (especially if you have several objects on the page) because one wrong setting on a single object can mess up the whole page.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I don't understand the logic of how an object is related to another object: Text block top margin is related to the rule above, but another text block's top margin is related to a totally different object??? How is this determined? Can I change this?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;It would be nice to have a view (maybe called &lt;strong&gt;Responsive View&lt;/strong&gt;?)--similar to Show Object Edges, but includes (margin, padding, floating relation to other objects, etc.) so one can "design" the responsiveness as we design the layout. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 1.5em;"&gt;Responsive View could show relationships between objects with small icons (chainlink, rubber band, etc.) and allow you to change those settings by clicking on the little icons...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;I think this would be a great feature since a lot of what designers are spend more time on is how to make each screen size look ideal.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Here are some other observations: &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;- Placing a new object is tedious because it can mess up the layout. They should be set with default settings that don't affect other objects. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;- objects loose their settings when a new object is placed.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;- objects change Margin setting of &lt;strong&gt;Auto&lt;/strong&gt; to &lt;strong&gt;%&lt;/strong&gt; when they are nudged or a new object is placed.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 1.5em;"&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 1.5em;"&gt;- if two buttons are grouped I expect them to act as a single object when the window is resized. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 1.5em;"&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 1.5em;"&gt;- would be nice to have a table tool&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 1.5em;"&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 1.5em;"&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:019cd440-183e-4278-9ee0-f0a5a7b3bfb4] --&gt;&lt;img src='/beacon?t=1415942432973' /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2014 01:34:57 GMT</pubDate>
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