Adobe Community: Message List - Interactive PDF buttons and default outlines

Re: Interactive PDF buttons and default outlines

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Fri, 07 Nov 2014 16:30:41 GMT

If it’s what I think it is, it’s an accessibility thing. You’ll get more help in the Acrobat forum than you will here. This has nothing to do with InDesign.

Re: Interactive PDF buttons and default outlines

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Fri, 07 Nov 2014 16:26:16 GMT

I'm having the same issue and "show focus rectangle" doesn't resolve it. "Show focus rectangle" toggles a transparent blue box that appears over radio buttons but not the dotted line which appears AFTER clicking on a button. A solution to this would be great. I tried exporting as swf and the boxes disappear but my radio buttons stop working, its a frustrating game of whack-a-mole.

Re: Interactive PDF buttons and default outlines

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 19:57:50 GMT

Feature can be disabled in PDF by going to Acrobat Preferences/Forms and toggling off "Show focus rectangle".

Re: Interactive PDF buttons and default outlines

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Mon, 24 Dec 2012 17:18:47 GMT

I have found one interesting answer from John Waller that seems to apply :

« It's called a "focus rectangle" and it's an accessibility feature of modern

browsers to show those who are navigating your site with a keyboard where

the focus is on the page e.g. if the dots appear on the Submit button the

user knows that pressing Enter will submit the form. »

http://forums.adobe.com/thread/98580

Re: Interactive PDF buttons and default outlines

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Tue, 03 Jul 2012 13:51:03 GMT

I do not profess to be an expert here but I was under the impression that this was an accessability issue.

You'll find a similar issue on the web when tabbing through nav lists.

Bob

Re: Interactive PDF buttons and default outlines

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Tue, 03 Jul 2012 08:43:13 GMT

My workaround was to export the presentation from Indesign as a SWF Flash file, which does not have this dotted line. Off course that will not be a suitable alternative in most occasions.

I guess it's something in the native structure of PDF. Hopefully they can get rid of it in new versions.

Re: Interactive PDF buttons and default outlines

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Tue, 03 Jul 2012 00:01:36 GMT

To the best of my knowledge. You could ask on the Acrobat forums, because it's an Acrobat issue. There may be a workaround I haven't heard of.

Re: Interactive PDF buttons and default outlines

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Mon, 02 Jul 2012 23:45:09 GMT

thank u steve,

u mean that this :

"I see what you mean in the link JomThreethousand posted. Jeffrey is probably correct. I've seen that subtle outline so often I just accept it as one of the ways that Acrobat/Reader display buttons. I don't particularly find it offensive. Each display system has its quirks and that's one of Acrobat/Reader's"

is still the answer?

Re: Interactive PDF buttons and default outlines

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Mon, 02 Jul 2012 23:28:45 GMT

Nothing has changed in InDesign or in Acrobat that would affect button display.

Re: Interactive PDF buttons and default outlines

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Mon, 02 Jul 2012 23:18:50 GMT

Hello Jom...

did u find a solution for the dotted OUTLINE around a button while click on it? (while watching it at PDF viewer)

it is really annoying...

Re: Interactive PDF buttons and default outlines

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Tue, 13 Mar 2012 15:50:27 GMT

I tried making a button out of a plain solid colored rectangle but will still get the dashed outline.

Offcourse this line is so default you will hardly notice it in most occasions. In my occasion as described in te original post however, it is a quite disctracting vertical line trough the image.

Re: Interactive PDF buttons and default outlines

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Tue, 13 Mar 2012 15:46:15 GMT

I just noticed something, I removed the effects from a button, but the dashed line is still there in Acrobat. The dashed line appears, but is pretty much the same size of the button, and in this case not as noticeable.

Re: Interactive PDF buttons and default outlines

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Tue, 13 Mar 2012 15:31:25 GMT

I see what you mean in the link JomThreethousand posted. Jeffrey is probably correct. I've seen that subtle outline so often I just accept it as one of the ways that Acrobat/Reader display buttons. I don't particularly find it offensive. Each display system has its quirks and that's one of Acrobat/Reader's.

Re: Interactive PDF buttons and default outlines

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Tue, 13 Mar 2012 15:24:54 GMT

The unwanted dashed line happens in Acrobat around buttons when there is an effect like transparency, bevel and emboss, outer glow, etc.applied to the button in Indesign. Removing the effect will eliminate the dashed line. You may be able to recreate the state appearance without the effects and see if this prevents the dashed line.

Re: Interactive PDF buttons and default outlines

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Tue, 13 Mar 2012 15:24:43 GMT

As far as I've seen, any button in a pdf will show a dashed rectangle around the limits of the button on a click, as shown on the screenshot. On a mac I've seen a transparent grey rectangle.

This is not my file but will show the very same thing, (and as far as I've seen this is a default event): http://gilbertconsulting.com/pdf/Build_tool_tips_in_InDesign.pdf

Thanks already for your attention!

Re: Interactive PDF buttons and default outlines

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Tue, 13 Mar 2012 15:15:14 GMT

Can you post a file for us to look at, please. I can't get what the problem is by looking at that screen capture.

Re: Interactive PDF buttons and default outlines

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Tue, 13 Mar 2012 15:09:36 GMT

Ok, so I don't mean ebook. I want to make an interactive pdf(with Indesign) that will be shown trough Adobe Reader on a specifically installed Windows computer with a touch screen.

The issue is this rollover state that seems to be some system default annoying dashed line that interferes with my design. My question is: can this be hidden?

Re: Interactive PDF buttons and default outlines

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Tue, 13 Mar 2012 14:59:41 GMT

You're mixing up concepts here.

When you say "ebook", usually that means an EPUB file, but ebook EPUB readers don't support buttons (maybe some using JavaScript).

Or, are you meaning PDF files bcause you're talking about previewing it in Acrobat X. But do you realize that most PDF readers on the iPad don't support buttons either. See by blog posting here: For Interactive PDF, Not All Readers Are Equal

Or, are you talking about the Adobe Digital Publishing system which you would talk about in the DPS forum.

Can you tell what workflow you're trying to use, please.

Interactive PDF buttons and default outlines

forums_noreply@adobe.com — Tue, 13 Mar 2012 13:30:58 GMT

I'm trying to make a straight forward ebook in Indesign cs5.5 for a touch screen, consisting of a series of images. The only functionality it needs to have for now is browsing up and down.

I made two big rectangular buttons with opacity set to 0%, 1/3 of the from the right of the screen = next, 1/3 from the left of the screen = previous page.

All works, but now there's this ugly default dashed line that pops up every time you tap one of the buttons. I can't find anything on this topic, but surely there must be a way to hide this? It's weird to have this dotted line overuling my designed rollover states.

Flash does not suffer from this default button outline, but I would prefer to make a pdf out of it. Any suggestions?

Example of the outline on a mouse click on a Windows Vista machine with Acrobat X or if opened in a browser. (In Safari on OSX I see a grey transprarent rectangle instead of the dashed line).