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Illustrator - Large Banner and file formats to use

New Here ,
Mar 13, 2018 Mar 13, 2018

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Hi there,

I'm creating a large banner in Illustrator - it's 14 ft x 9 ft.  It needs to have logos placed on it - and my question is - does it matter what type of logo format I place on the document?  For clarity and printing purposes?  I have each logo in a pdf, jpeg, ps and eps.  Which one should I use?

Thanks!!

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Mar 13, 2018 Mar 13, 2018

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If the pdf or eps is vector art then use that so that resolution is not an issue. I would suggest resaving them as .ai files though (eps is an outdated format and not recommended). To make sure that the logo is completely vector open it in Illustrator and look at it in the Artwork Mode (Command (Mac)/Control (PC)-Y. If you see the logo (outlined) in this mode then you are dealing with vector art. If you see a blank box then it is raster and will have problems with resolution as you blow it up.

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Mar 13, 2018 Mar 13, 2018

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Exactly. Not so much a matter of file type as the type of shape you're referring to. It's either raster or vector. Having it in pdf or eps doesn't make it vector art.

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Hi Bill - and thanks for your advice.

I did what you said to do - opened up the pdf in Illustrator - hit Control Y - and ended up with the blank box  😕 

Any suggestions on what I should do next?

Thanks!

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So that means that your logos will be dependent on resolution and will most likely appear pixelated when produced in a large format. If it is possible to go back to whatever the source of the logos was and find out if vector versions exist. Also follow Jeff’s advice and contact your printer. Get their input. Show them what you have and let them tell you what kind of results you can expect from what you have.

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Mar 14, 2018 Mar 14, 2018

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Bill,

Referring to the last sentence in the first post, it may be convenient to avoid unnecessary attention from the NSA (and the others).

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Mar 14, 2018 Mar 14, 2018

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"I would suggest resaving them as .ai files though (eps is an outdated format and not recommended)"...

When was EPS outdated exactly?  And, who outdated it?

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When was EPS outdated exactly?  And, who outdated it?

The fact that it has last been updated in 1997 makes it an outdated file format.

Dov Isaacs talks about it in here:

The case against the EPS file. - PrintPlanet.com

and is cited in here:

The EPS file format | What is an Encapsulated PostScript file

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The heyday of EPS was when QuarkXPress was the top page layout program but did not possess the necessary codes to import native Illustrator files but was able to handle an encapsulated postscript (EPS) file. These files placed in Quark were not able to maintain any transparency features which used to lead to any number of workarounds in order to use even drop shadows in a Quark layout. Once InDesign came along and was able to take full advantage of the native (.ai) Illustrator format including all of its native transparency features and even access just certain layers of the .ai files there became less and less need for the use of EPS files.

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Hello Ernie, I would recommend to open either the eps or pdf file in Illustrator if they're working properly and if they are in vector format, then you should be able to export .SVG  Export high-quality, optimized SVG |  SVG guaratee a stable format and easy to place in Illustrator, hope this helps

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SVG guaratee a stable format and easy to place in Illustrator, hope this helps

Why open EPS and/or PDF in Illustrator and then export SVG?

SVG might (with default options) cause huge changes to artwork. Up to the point of being unusable because of a complete lack of precision.

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Hi Ernie,

I would highly recommend that (if you can) call the company that is actually producing the banner. They would be able to answer, better than anyone, what they need for their workflow. Chances are they will say PDF, AI, or EPS, but why not ask the source?

Best,

Jeff

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Ernie,

Any logo (except for some old hand drawn ones) should (in the sense ought to) be born vector, so I believe it is worth looking for that original version.

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