.DV Not supported? Or did the codec get deleted?

Report · Apr 10, 2018

I have been filming with a Mini DV camera for years (as well as now 4k cameras) and with the latest update, I have not been able to import my new footage. I import using an old version of iMovie HD 06 because for me, I can tell a difference in quality.

I'm not even able to batch convert them (not that I should have to) because Media Encoder gives me the same error. I had recently deleted a Final Cut Pro Trial as well as noticed my cc 2017 was still in my applications folder. I had just edited a 10 minute video using this camcorder last fall, what is going on?

Report · Apr 10, 2018

Hi Jordan,

This might be because of the removal of Legacy QT codecs.

As per this DV should import and export but if you are running into issues due to this please try the workarounds mentioned in the below link.

Dropped support for Quicktime 7 era formats and codecs

//Vinay

Report · Apr 10, 2018

Why would this ever be a thing? What about documentaries with archival footage? And I can't even transcode them because Media Encoder can't import them either...

Report · Apr 10, 2018

You can install an older version of Adobe Media Encoder along with the current version and use the older version to convert.

Report · May 01, 2020

Hello

Wich older version of MEDIA ENCODER? I have installed v13 and it's still not working... I also have this same issue of loading .AVI files into PREMIERE, and I did shoot tons of footage in .AVI with DV codec (encoded with... PREMIERE on a PC, 20 years ago).

Please keep this codec still supported!

- VLC convert but in bad quality

- Mpegstream Clip is not working on OS X.15 anymore...

- QT7 PRO neither...

- Other solutions?

screenshot from VLC data info

Report · May 02, 2020

To me, it's a bit like if the next version of Photoshop wouldn't support the JPEG format anymore....

You should use a third part software to convert all of your JPEG into PSD, then open it into Photoshop...

Ok, convert 20 years of JPEG now !....

Report · May 02, 2020

Weirdest thing is the DV encapsulated in QT.

You can open it with QuickeTime10, but not in PREMIERE or MEDIA ENCODER.

Report · Aug 16, 2023

"Install an older version of Media Encoder" isn't really a viable solution in 2023.

Is there a way to transcode?

Report · Jun 24, 2018

Adobe claims that DV is still supported... but it is not. I spent an entire day today transcoding DV to ProRes in Compressor in order to edit a video in Premiere which contains some archive footage... from the 2000's!!!

This is just plain wrong. An entire decade was shot in DV.

Report · Jun 25, 2018

It's not an ideal solution, but there seems there never will be so... I reinstalled CC2017. It's much more stable and bug-free than 2018, and there's no real features that I miss going back a version. If you're just starting a project, I recommend it as a viable alternative to 2018.

Report · Jun 25, 2018

If anyone has a small sample .dv file they could share, I'm still looking at the conversion options. The only .dv sample I could find is corrupt.

Also, to clarify, the problem files are .dv specifically, created by Macs. Those are not the only Mac digital video files, correct? And the others (some of the others?) still work?

I agree, the documentation still shows .dv files as supported, and they do not appear to be any longer.

Report · Jun 25, 2018

No. The ones I am using are .avi files captured a decade ago on a Windows PC.

The latest version of Quicktime Player plays them without a problem. Only the Adobe suite doesn't.

The DV codec has NOT been deprecated by Apple, and the Library of Congress lists DV as one of the future-safe formats.

Adobe, what ...?

Report · Jun 25, 2018

Can you post a screenshot of mediainfo of one of the files using the tree View?

I can import such AVIs into PR 2018.1.1.

Edited.

Report · Jun 25, 2018

Report · Jun 26, 2018

Mine are very similar.

Jim's point, I can't remember if there was a simpler conversion. For example, PR wants (like these) AVI Type 2. Seems to me Mac worked with type 1?

In QuickTime look for an output option that just rewraps it.

Report · Jun 25, 2018

The ones I am using are .avi files captured a decade ago on a Windows PC.

Those will work fine on a Windows machine.

On a Mac, you need QuickTime DV files.

Report · Jun 25, 2018

Adobe claims that DV is still supported... but it is not.

DV files in the .avi or .mov container are the norm and should still work fine. It's the .dv extension that is the issue.

Report · Apr 10, 2018

I'm dealing with this same issue. With none other than a – you guessed it – a documentary using legacy footage. I stupidly updated Premiere, because the project had been locked for 6 months. Now I needed to make a minor tweak, reviewed, and saw this patch of "media offline" frames.

I'm not a software engineer, so it would be nice to know why they ended support for legacy codecs. I mean, it can't be adding much bloat to the app, can it? Seems Adobe got a case of Apple-itis, and decided to slim down because some engineer has issues about streamlined code at the expense of usability. And yes I can recode, but when you have a locked timeline that has been color-corrected, and is to spec, introducing newly re-encoded material is really nerve-wracking and potentially problematic.

This was a $#!† move on Adobe's part.

Report · Apr 11, 2018

it would be nice to know why they ended support for legacy codecs.

Here's the best I could find.

"Adobe continuously aims to keep up with the most modern workflows and support formats and codecs broadly used across the professional film and video industry. As a result, future versions of Premiere Pro will no longer support legacy QuickTime 7 era formats and codecs." - Patrick J. Palmer

Report · Apr 13, 2018

I saw that. It's kind of a non-explanation. I don't that keeping up with modern codecs has to be mutually exclusive to supporting legacy ones. The two seemed to work be sympatico until Adobe decided they weren't.

Report · Apr 13, 2018

I'm not a software developer, so...I can't really speak to that.

Report · Aug 18, 2018

Actually, that was a move on Apple's part. Not Adobe's. Already, with the release of the newest version of OSX 10.14, 32-bit app support has been completely dropped, requiring all processes to utilize all 64 bits. QuickTime 7, on the other hand, is restricted to only 32 bits in operation. This will also be reflected in the newest versions of iMovie and FCP, which will be expected to completely drop QT7-era codec support as well. This, unfortunately, is part of a larger computer-industry-wide effort to rid itself of legacy support. Already, nVidia (on the Windows side) is no longer releasing new drivers for 32-bit operating systems, and any newer drivers now require full 64-bit support.

Report · Jun 11, 2023

Which begs the question why does it still work on the older version of Media Encoder - obviously they could have just kept the so called 'unsupported' function if they hadn't had a nerd attack.

Report · Aug 16, 2018

The daftest comment from Adobe on their page that announces the dropping of QuickTime 7 is in the "Workarounds" section:

"For import formats, transcode legacy footage to a newer codec."

How can you do this when Media Encoder ISN'T accepting the files anymore?

Thinking of going back to Avid or training on FCX.

Report · Aug 18, 2018

An AVI DV is not a legacy codec, in Windows it works fine., Premiere 12.1.2.

Format : AVI

Format/Info : Audio Video Interleave

Commercial name : DVCPRO <----------- Generated in QuickTime

File size : 96.8 MiB

Duration : 27 s 840 ms

Overall bit rate mode : Constant

Overall bit rate : 29.2 Mb/s

Video

ID : 0

Format : DV

Commercial name : DVCPRO

Codec ID : dvsd <----------- DV

Codec ID/Hint : Sony <----------- DV

Duration : 27 s 840 ms

Bit rate mode : Constant

Bit rate : 24.4 Mb/s

Encoded bit rate : 28.8 Mb/s

Width : 720 pixels

Height : 576 pixels

Display aspect ratio : 4:3

Frame rate mode : Constant

Frame rate : 25.000 FPS

Standard : PAL

Color space : YUV

Chroma subsampling : 4:1:1

Bit depth : 8 bits

Scan type : Interlaced

Scan order : Bottom Field First

Compression mode : Lossy

Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 2.357

Time code of first frame : 00:00:00:00

Time code source : Subcode time code

Stream size : 95.6 MiB (99%)

AVI DV Premiere

Format : AVI

Format/Info : Audio Video Interleave

Commercial name : DV

File size : 8.47 MiB

Duration : 2 s 336 ms

Overall bit rate mode : Constant

Overall bit rate : 30.4 Mb/s

Recorded date : 2018-08-18T01:34:53-03:00

Writing application : Adobe Premiere Pro CC 2018.1 (Windows)

Video

ID : 0

Format : DV

Codec ID : dvsd <----------- DV

Codec ID/Hint : Sony <----------- DV

Duration : 2 s 336 ms

Bit rate mode : Constant

Bit rate : 24.4 Mb/s

Encoded bit rate : 28.8 Mb/s

Width : 720 pixels

Height : 480 pixels

Display aspect ratio : 4:3

Frame rate mode : Constant

Frame rate : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS

Original frame rate : 29.970 (29970/1000) FPS

Standard : NTSC

Color space : YUV

Chroma subsampling : 4:1:1

Bit depth : 8 bits

Scan type : Interlaced

Scan order : Bottom Field First

Compression mode : Lossy

Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 2.357

Time code of first frame : 00:00:00:00 / 00:00:00:00

Time code source : Adobe tc_A / Adobe tc_O

Stream size : 8.01 MiB (95%)

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