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Quick question about my file size

Explorer ,
Jul 02, 2018 Jul 02, 2018

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Hi..hope I'm doing this correctly as I've never been in here before.  But, I'm going crazy and cannot figure out what is wrong!

I run Photoshop cc2017.  I am making web elements (buttons for a client).  I've got them done and realized that the files are huge.

I used 10x10 inches at 72 dpi.  The files are showing up as 50 to 70 MBs!  I've went through everything and cannot find a problem.  I make

these all the time and have never had this problem.  I even took some old buttons and compared sizes, etc.  Everything I do for website and

internet is always 72 dpi unless its to be printed.  The other files I compared these to are somewhere around 1 MG each.  Can someone please

help me...I need to get these to my clients asap.  Thank you in advance!

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Jul 02, 2018 Jul 02, 2018

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Check for photoshop:DocumentAncestors metadata in your files using the File menu > File Info > Raw tab, if found then:

Prepression: Metadata Bloat – photoshop:DocumentAncestors

Prepression: Downloading and Installing Adobe Scripts

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Jul 03, 2018 Jul 03, 2018

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Thanks so much Stephen. You are obviously sending me in the right direction. I have studied all day about this. The exiftool, etc. I'm and so confused now. I don't know where to go first to see if there is alot of metadata and I also don't know where I type anything to find out about the metadata. Will you please direct me? I'm really dumb about this stuff. Thank you!!

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Jul 03, 2018 Jul 03, 2018

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As mentioned above, one place is to open the suspect file, use File menu > File Info and then look at the Raw Data:

File Info.png

While another method listed in the link to my blog that is good for large quantities of images is to use Adobe Bridge and use the Find or Smart Collection features:

Find.png

Use photoshop:DocumentAncestors as the search text.

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Jul 03, 2018 Jul 03, 2018

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I'm sorry to keep bothering you, but I just need to make sure I'm doing this right. This is one file...I didn't know I had to open a file to get the "file info" so I could click on it. Is this what I'm supposed to be looking for and does this look like this would make a file huge? If so, do I just delete this or what do I do with it? I really appreciate all your help!!

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Jul 03, 2018 Jul 03, 2018

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Usually File > Export > Save for Web will scrub out that metadata if you choose by choosing "Set Metadata" to "None" in the dialog.

For other cases where you can't remove all metadata, see this thread for a script that will remove document ancestors for you.

Inflated JPG File Size - Photoshop Document:Ancestors Metadata

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Jul 03, 2018 Jul 03, 2018

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these are all psd files and they've got layers with smart objects. I need to keep all this info.

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Jul 03, 2018 Jul 03, 2018

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So then the Bridge Script in the last link will specifcally clear out document ancestors in a psd. Try it on a copy of one of your files.

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Jul 03, 2018 Jul 03, 2018

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I didn't see this gener7....what do you mean by the bridge script?

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Jul 03, 2018 Jul 03, 2018

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Bridge CC is the file browser for Adobe products. It's free to download. A bridge script allows you to select one or many files to perform a specific task on, such as removing metadata ancestors.

From here I'll point you to Stephen Marsh's excellent tutorial on how to create, install and use the script in Bridge.

Prepression: Downloading and Installing Adobe Scripts

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Jul 03, 2018 Jul 03, 2018

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Ok, I did that earlier. It come up with 550 pixs. I thought I would rerun it again. Its up to over 1000 right now. Last time I purged the files. Is that what I should have done? It asked so I just hit yes.

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Jul 03, 2018 Jul 03, 2018

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I copied the script for photoshop but couldn't use wordpad because no .jsx.

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Jul 03, 2018 Jul 03, 2018

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Simply select and copy/paste the script code into a plain text document, saving the file with a .jsx filename extension. Ensure that a double extension is not incorrectly added, such as .jsx.txt

NOTE: Only paste the source code into plain text editors, such as Notepad or Adobe ExtendScript Toolkit etc. Ensure that straight double-quote marks " do not become curly.

MS WordPad is not a plain text editor. Use MS NotePad or another plain text editor instead.

Don’t worry that .jsx is not offered as a filename extension. Just ensure that it has .jsx manually entered:

JSX.png

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Explorer ,
Jul 04, 2018 Jul 04, 2018

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AW files from my D90 average about 10MB apiece, while the fine JPEG versions are about 4MB. It really all depends on your settings, since files will be larger if you're shooting fine JPEGs at the highest resolution your camera offers.

For HDRs, I believe your results would be better with a RAW file than a JPEG. The RAW records more of the data from the camera, while a JPEG is compressed and loses a substantial amount of information.

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Jul 04, 2018 Jul 04, 2018

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Hi Michaelp798...these files have to do with web elements that I made with Photoshop CC. Not photos that I have taken. Those don't seem to have been bothered by the bloating. Thanks tho

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Jul 04, 2018 Jul 04, 2018

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Hi Stephen..I think I am getting closer!! I used option script 5 because it works with PSD files. This is what I've done so far

Since option 5 says no documents have to be opened, how do I run this? It accidentally closed because I hit done...but nothing happened anyway. I'm beginning to see a light at the end of the tunnel!!!

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Jul 04, 2018 Jul 04, 2018

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After I install the script in Bridge, it shows up under the Tools menu. The Content pane contains the file thumbnails and I can batch select what I want (yellow frame around the thumbnail) and run the script from the menu. The files are not opened and ancestor metadata is cleared out without harming anything else. The script I chose runs, but it does not give a "completed" message. You just basically check and it should be gone.

Metadata and Image data are separate parts, so you don't risk having your images harmed in any way.

Stephan like has more to add, but I thought this would help.

Gene

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Each solution listed at my blog has different behaviour:

Solution #1: Adobe Photoshop Script – This script will remove the photoshop:DocumentAncestors metadata from an open file.

Solution #5: Adobe Photoshop Script (not for use with PNG images) – This Photoshop script will process a source folder containing JPEG/TIFF/PSD files and remove the photoshop:DocumentAncestors metadata without opening the images into Photoshop.

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Jul 03, 2018 Jul 03, 2018

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Photoshop does offer Export and Export/Save for Web options that do feature the ability to strip metadata from saved files, so your final JPEG/PNG files may not contain the unwanted metadata if you use this method for saving. This means that you don’t have to worry about scripts.

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this would be great, but will it let me save files as PSD with all the layers, etc? I tried to follow the directions, but ran into too many problems the other way, so if this doesn't work with the export/save for web option, can I just redownload photoshop? I'm so frustrated and need to get this done. I appreciate everything from you guys!

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Jul 03, 2018 Jul 03, 2018

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not able to save as psd. Thanks anyway for everything!

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The existence of photoshop:DocumentAncestors metadata is related to placing smart objects, however I don’t believe that it is essential to their operation. As suggested in the previous post, test on a copy.

You may or may not not save that much space if the photoshop:DocumentAncestors metadata is not excessive… Anyway, the idea is not to strip this metadata from the PSD, but from the JPEG or PNG saved from the PSD.

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Ok, the file size is 58.6 mb. Still the same size. The set of web elements that I made before this, the files were fine, so something happened within a weeks time. But as I'm sure you can see, 576x576 px or 8x8 inches at 72 dpi shouldn't be that huge. I did the link with bridge with the search of documentancestors and it deleted a bunch of photos, leaving one. There was prob. 600 pixs. I did have alot of duplicates, so I haven't even looked to see what all that deleted. The other link you sent me I don't understand what to do. Where do i paste text. I don't know anything about the behind the scenes of PS.

Now, I haven't deleted any files yet. Am I supposed to get rid of anything? Sorry, just so confused still.

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