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Probably ought to look into a Dell Ultra-Sharp if price is important, GH.
what is the difference between the regular Dell monitors and the ultrasharp? I was looking at their specs and from what I can see, some of the other ones have "faster" specs ... for whatever that is worth.
In my browsing, I did see a LG for a smilar price point at the ultrashapr, for an equivalent sized monitor. LG monitor info here
Hopper, I honestly don't know. Just referring to some stuff that I've read on the PS forum.
whatever monitor you chose, make sure you don't HAVE TO pay $100 for the cable : )
(Dell is fine, I have a 22", I think : )
this looks nice (I don't have one):
this looks expensive for no apparent reason:
The Belkin is a rip off at Circuit city. Here is Belkin's direct price:
What's with buying cables?
My Dell monitor came with its own DVI cable. So did my primary Eizo.
In reading up on some of this, the DVI cable (if purchased) would allow for a cleaner picture, but one can still use the supplied VGA cable, correct? Therefore it's not *required* to have the DVI cable, right?
Every monitor I've purchased has come with a cable.
Edit: I should have said that both flat screens have come with a DVI cable.
I'm looking more this morning and I see these two monitors, but I am not sure what the difference between them is. One has wide color gamut (do I want/need this?) and the other does not. I am wondering if one is the newer model of the other?
This one has the wide gamut and is only available (via Circuit City) as an online, wait for shipping, purchase.
LG 22" FLATRON Widescreen LCD Monitor Model #: LG L227WTGPF
This one does not have the wide gamut and is available for in-store pickup
LG FLATRON 22" LCD Widescreen Monitor Model #: LG W2252TQTF
Both have 3 year (limited, of course!) parts/labor warranties and they both also come with a D-Sub cable ... what's that?
I use the 24" Dell ultrasharp for my main monitor. It's been great so far and I've had it for almost 2 years now. If you buy one, get the extended 5 year warranty. It's cheap.
What ever you do, DO NOT BUY ANYTHING FROM VIEWSONIC!
you may have to check the video card too, for connectivity and wide gamut
The cable is important, as the bandwidth requirements for proper resolution are much greater than VGA. With cheap cables you will see, for instance, in an Excel spreadsheet, ghosting of the narrow lines and smearing of the edges of the type. This because of timing errors between the color information and the luminance signal causes skewing.
The quality of the electronics to which the cable connects is vitally important as well.
The upshot of all this is you may see artifacts and resolution problems that are not due to the image, but due to the connectivity. Therefore, trying to sharpen with little improvement may in fact be a systemic problem. (Based on the 1920/1080 screen resolution)
Don't go beyond 10'in length. The signal losses mount quickly. 10' is the ideal length.
This is compliments of a friend who is chief engineer for a company that makes the display setups for the likes of Circuit City etc who have to have clean, properly setup connections to each and every monitor or TV. When they go beyond 10' per set, differences are introduced which compromise the comparison test. The cables they use are first class.
So, if you are going to spend hundreds of dollars for the monitor, go ahead and spend the extra bucks for the high end Belkin.
While cable length can cause losses and signal distortion, I hardly think that that sort of restriction makes sense in the real world.
Personally I think cable companies make far too much of the need for their expensive products. The proof of the pudding, or in this case, the picture, is in the user's experience not what somebody measured in a lab.
I would say, try the monitor with the cable it came with and only if you are not satisfied with what you see, get a more expensive cable.
I always have to laugh a those HiFi enthusiasts with their $10 000 valve amplifiers and half-inch diameter speaker cables. As if ...
>Don't go beyond 10'in length
Don't go beyond 10' in length = Don't go beyond 10 feet in length
Yes, dammit! Should have realised ten inches is ridiculously short. I can't get my head round these old-fashioned units. ;)
I still stand by the rest of the remarks though.
you can't get your head round ********
(and grab at any opportunity you don't understand)
Trust you to devalue a serious discussion.
Don't bother to reply.
Ramón G Castañeda's advise was sound technical advice. Don't go beyond the 10 foot. That rule also applies to lines to your router.
don't bother to reply? : )
you're funnier than I thought you could be
(not a compliment)
don't bother reading your own posts
but remember that I understand a lot more than you do
Ana, the advice was Larry's
(Ramón only demonstrated attention to detail and quality, this time "round" : )
[unlike arrogant/negative/pompous/useless/angry/totalitarian/boring jj]
Okay, so if I am going to use the DVDi cable, what kind of card do I need in my system to take advantage of it?
The D-Sub cable is just another way of saying VGA, btw.
I picked up the LG yesterday and even bought the DVDi cable, but since I don't have the proper port on my system, I can't make use of it right now.
Also, since this is a widescreen monitor, I notice that things are more "stretched" than a CRT would be. Is there any way that I can keep the more accurate aspect ratio on the images. What I am seeing right now is that 100x100 pixels does not display the same way on the wide screen as it does on the standard screen. I don't know what to do about this, if anything can be done?
Unfortunately, the audio debacle spilled over to the digital world.
JJ, here's the story technically.
At the frequencies necessary for proper digital communication, we resort to transmission line theory, which, for audio made no sense at all given the cable lengths.
Transmission lines require termination in a load which matches the characteristic impedance of the line, typically in the order of 50 ohms unbalanced and up to 100 ohms balanced. If you think that 10 feet is inconsequential, consider that the Intel Core Two Duos have what is called a Front Side Bus, which is on the order of a few inches, and is rigorously controlled, as to line impedance and termination. It is directly involved in the marvelous performance of those devices, matching and exceeding that with which AMD competes, and AMD doesn't have a front side bus! If the FSB was not controlled we would all be either running AMD or running behind.
Think of it this way. The pulse which corresponds to, say a "one" is like a golf ball, a steady stream of golf balls heading for a target. Now, if the target is somewhat soft and thin, the ball gets through and lands on the space waiting for the signal "One" or "Zero". Now, consider a target is hard. The ball hits the target, bounces back and Uh oh!, it's heading back to the source. But wait! There is more! Another ball is heading to the target, it gets hit by the returning ball, and in this case, is a zero ball. The two cancel, and a pixel location gets the wrong info.
I have worked with transmission lines for years, both RF and digital. At Intel, I was responsible for measurements involving FSB performance on CPU to MCH (Northbridge) connections.
Since I have no recent experience with the practical notions of DVI cabling, I went to my source, who detailed it for me, far more than I have written here.
Anyway, take it for what it's worth. You can do as JJ suggests and try before you buy. And buy from a dealer that allows returns, should you decide for you, it makes no difference.
One more thing: The electronics has to terminate the cable correctly. If it doesn't, no amount of cable upgrade will improve performance!
You get what you pay for.
he wouldn't understand
Hopper, set the screen resolution to max. The monitor should set itself properly.
Use the cards recommended as tested by Adobe.
Well, that's not my problem, Todie. The info is there to substantiate the claims and the rest is up to the reader. :-)
Oh, and Hopper, if you use the VGA connections, which are slower, there is less pressure on cables and terminations, but the display will not be as crisp either.
i'll trade you my 21" CRT for an LCD :p