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1. Re: So these are some test shots with Nikon D3
Allen Wicks Apr 16, 2008 4:20 PM (in response to Wade S Zimmerman)Where the D3 shines is in tonal range, high ISO and all the features that (D)SLRs are used for, especially dynamic photography. -
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(bonniej) Apr 17, 2008 5:15 AM (in response to Wade S Zimmerman)I have been using the D3 for several months now... totally amazing piece of equipment.
Amazing at high ISO... Tonal range is brilliant.... and blazing fast for sports.
Samples...
Looking to see what I could get with detail in both the blacks & the whites...
Then at a dance recital .. totally dark except for the stage lights. no flash allowed. no tripods allowed. I was in the first row. Just a bit of noise reduction applied in the Photoshop CS3 RAW dialog box... that's all.
ISO 3200 f2.8 1/80 handheld....
ISO 3200 f2.8 1/4 handheld.. I wanted movement on this to get a painterly effect....
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Ramona Dear Apr 17, 2008 7:28 AM (in response to Wade S Zimmerman)Wade, your photos are beautiful ... even if you shot with a cell phone!
Damn Bonnie! NICE! ... er ... excuse the explitive! Beautiful work! -
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Nick Decker Apr 17, 2008 7:39 AM (in response to Wade S Zimmerman)Very impressive, Bonnie. -
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(bonniej) Apr 17, 2008 7:56 AM (in response to Wade S Zimmerman)I got pulled away before I could finish my post.. LOL
Wade.. nice images. I love the use of back lighting in the flower image. I am seeing very little fringing on my end.. possibly I am not shooting high contrast outdoors. I have been lucky with sports so far.. having nice slightly overcast days (and one day in the rain). All my lenses are f2.8 so that might be the difference as well.
Ramona & Nick.. thanks. -
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Wade S Zimmerman Apr 17, 2008 8:38 AM (in response to Wade S Zimmerman)Well Bonnie I see this camera agrees with you for sure.
I will make a comparison observation between this came and both the 5d and 1 Ds Mark Ii,
I have not use the 1Ds Mark III .
I m using the 28mm Nikkor PC (Shift lens) and comparing that with the titl shift lenses I have used on the 5D and the 1Ds Mark II I have to say there is much less fringing and easier to over come as well with Lightroom or ACR.
The color is much better from the D3 without question and many times there is no real need to color correct. I just shot a mall with daylight, fluorescent, Metal Halide and tungsten and there was little need to color correct. That would not be the case with the canon cameras.
Now though this is a big camera body, it felt far more comfortable hand holding then does the Canons and it handled better on the tripod as well.
Of course if they offered a version of the same quality with more pixels then it would make everything much better. and slightly wider frame.
This is a wonderful camera even if they come out with some even more advanced I like the fact that Nikon is taking the approach that bigger is not better but better is better.
Digitl needs the right amount of time to be developed and canon just rushed to be first.
Those are my observation and I see signs of promise for digital. But to be honest it still needs to address many issues that has been ignore. -
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Allen Wicks Apr 17, 2008 1:06 PM (in response to Wade S Zimmerman)BonnieJ-
Nice pix, very representative of what IMO makes the D3 so worthy.
Wade-
>Digitl needs the right amount of time to be developed and canon just rushed to be first.
Actually Nikon's D1 was way first and the Nikon-based Fuji S1 next. Canon came to DSLR more than a year later as I recall. As to
i "digital needs the right amount of time to be developed"
IMO you are
b way
behind. DSLR has been cost and quality effective (as compared to 35mm) for 7-8 years now. Of course if you are evaluating against the static-photos 4x5 tilt/shift world then I agree DSLR is still somewhat lacking, primarily due to limitations of 35mm lenses and form factor.
Your tests have been static pix with an old 28mm PC lens. I suggest tests using the new 24mm & 85mm PC lenses, and of challenging subjects. I had the opportunity to shoot the D3 with the 85mm PC in a dark concert venue and the results were astonishing. IMO BonnieJ's pix are exemplary. Of course when I buy a D3 (next month I hope) I too will be using some older lenses like the 20mm and 24-85mm in addition to modern 50mm f/1.4, 70-200mm f/2.8 and the like.
>Of course if they offered a version of the same quality with more pixels then it would make everything much better.
Interesting that you take the more-pixels-is-better approach. I have said for years that IMO there is much more to digital capture than pixel count, and that once you get to the level of a cameras like the D2x and D3 additional pixels beyond ~12 MP are relatively just not that relevant. Of course tech does change; that opinion of mine for the last 5 years may well revise by 2009 some time. -
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Hudechrome-sd9sPI Apr 17, 2008 2:28 PM (in response to Wade S Zimmerman)Pixels do count, Allen. If pixels don't count, then my quality increase by doing a grid array and stitching would show no differences but they do, even if the final size can be accommodated easily with a single shot.
But as you point out, there is more to it. -
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Fred Nirque Apr 17, 2008 3:03 PM (in response to Wade S Zimmerman)Actually, it was seeing Bonnie's shots that convinced me to order a D3..... :-)
The D3 is delayed another week as there's a suggested return-to-Nikon firmware upgrade just released and they're upgrading all new cameras before distribution here - annoying but the good karma is an excellent condition 17-35mm f/2.8 lens has become available locally at just over half new price and which will end up costing virtually nothing when I swap out my 12-24mm f/4 DX and 24mm f/2.8 prime.
Allen is quite right about the pixel count thing - Nikon could probably quite easily have produced a 22+MP FX sensor, but then the pixel density on the sensor would be approaching the DX sensors, with all the problems that this brings. Physics sometimes delineates the bounds of how far technology can go, and optical physics has to be one of the hardest nuts to crack.
The Nikon software that helps deal with the diffraction/fringing problem is also installed on the D300 as far as I know, but comparing the pictures in this regard between the two 12~MP cameras is a no contest in favour of the D3, the physical advantage of lesser pixel density on the FX sensor thus being clear. It's also what helped me decide to get the D3 now rather than hanging out for the still-fictitious 24MP D3x, which would probably run into diffraction/fringing/bleed problems under certain circumstances that would not trouble the D3.
For my purposes, 12MP combined with good optics is more than enough - however if 24-sheet posters are the intended result, perhaps larger format such such as the Hasselblad HD3 MF camera is the better way to go, just as it was in film days.
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Wade S Zimmerman Apr 17, 2008 4:42 PM (in response to Wade S Zimmerman)>primarily due to limitations of 35mm lenses and form factor.
Well yes you are right that is actually what I am referring to and I think it has to be rethought out since you do not have to think of the media by some format size related to a physical capability ratio of a transport mechanism then it should be looked into to reinvent the form factor which might allow you to leave everything else in tack and also rethink the value of the possibility of including a mechanism built into the camera that would give you image displacement with even better control than a large format camera. They have one but it leaves a lot to be desired. The Sylvestri I think it was called but it was scanning back.
So with a rethinking of what these cameras are intended to replace and what they are now going beyond that realm, then it might be good then to have the technology look at recovering things that might be lost.
Fortunately my 28 mm Nikkor PC lens works great but I wish it had more range and I wish that Nikon would develop besides a 24mm shift tilt lens a 17mm tilt shift lens and perhaps even a 14mm.
Then I would like studio strobes that fit in my breast pocket.
I am actually serious about the 17mm tilt shift lens though. That would be cool though expensive. -
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Hudechrome-sd9sPI Apr 17, 2008 5:19 PM (in response to Wade S Zimmerman)With Photoshop, I don't even think "shift lens" any more. In fact, a careful application of the Transform tool can restore both perspective and proportion.
The grid array does have the advantage of avoiding physical limitations inherent in pixel cramming.
It does slow one down, however.
Now, if I only had a collection of Nikon FF lenses tucked away....
Fred, can you show the difference between the D3 and D300, or do I hafta go to Pro Photo and try for myself? :D
Is the difference primarily one of noise? If I run on the tripod for the most part, will the two perform differently at the slow ISO? -
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Ann Shelbourne Apr 17, 2008 6:02 PM (in response to Wade S Zimmerman)Spring finally reached me too: <br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=11akpOhvNeqocuWuClUtiNA5tmyIO" /></a> <img alt="Picture hosted by Pixentral" src="http://www.pixentral.com/hosted/11akpOhvNeqocuWuClUtiNA5tmyIO_thumb.jpg" border="0" /> <br /> <br />[And the equipment that was used to take this photograph remains highly classified information!] -
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(Peter_Figen) Apr 17, 2008 7:00 PM (in response to Wade S Zimmerman)A couple of weeks ago at Gorman, Ca., halfway from L.A. to Bakersfield at 4000' going over the Grapevine - the lupine and poppies were spectacular. A Zeiss 21mm provides the wide angle and punch, the flora provides the color. We're having a pretty good wildflower season, but not as good as one might have expected considering the amount of rain this winter.
http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=1o61vg8Vs9FtkEkm8FdRbjQ3ak5BsU1 -
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Ann Shelbourne Apr 17, 2008 7:18 PM (in response to Wade S Zimmerman)Spectacular Peter!
Lupins seem to just rot here or get eaten by slugs unfortunately. -
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(Peter_Figen) Apr 17, 2008 7:35 PM (in response to Wade S Zimmerman)Thanks Ann. We have a wildflower hotline phone number where you can call to get current condtions all over California. It's a great resource, and it's SOOO nice to get out of the city and smell the colors. Maybe other states have a similar service? -
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Fred Nirque Apr 17, 2008 7:42 PM (in response to Wade S Zimmerman)Sorry, Larry, I don't have access to the D300 at the moment, nor has my D3 got here yet, but I'll try to set up a side-by-side test when the D3 arrives.
>And the equipment that was used to take this photograph remains highly classified information!
Ummm, let me guess, Ann - Olympus OM1 on Portra 160 film? That's what it looks like to this trained eye, anyway... ;-)
Wow, Peter, that's some in-your-face crisp colour! I heard that the Zeiss lenses were spectacular and now have one on my wish list (will this equipment acquisition cycle
i ever
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Ann Shelbourne Apr 17, 2008 7:47 PM (in response to Wade S Zimmerman)Fred:
Not exactly.
I am fairly confident that Portra would have held the highlights better than this. -
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Fred Nirque Apr 17, 2008 7:52 PM (in response to Wade S Zimmerman)Darn. I'm just out of practice, I guess! (joking all the while, of course). -
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(Peter_Figen) Apr 17, 2008 8:14 PM (in response to Wade S Zimmerman)Ann,
You've got a lot more highlight detail there than shows. I ran H/S filter and was amazed at how much more was really there, especially since you weren't reallly pushing 255 most places. I'll bet the subtle texture of the petals is great on a higher res file.
Fred,
I've had this lens for a couple of months now (the Distagon 21) and am really taken with it. There's definitely something about what they call microcontrast, I think, that others don't have. On the other hand, the tradeoff is a slightly harsher bokeh. I think I took that shot at 5.6 on a full frame camera. The Nikon 28mm f/2 is not quite as sharp but is MUCH creamier in the out of focus. The most important thing is to be outside enjoying it all. -
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Ann Shelbourne Apr 17, 2008 8:21 PM (in response to Wade S Zimmerman)Then I must look more closely at the original, Peter.
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(Peter_Figen) Apr 17, 2008 8:47 PM (in response to Wade S Zimmerman)Here you go.
http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=1KZn3vyDWaF0hFyaRdkukywNLaNhv -
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Ann Shelbourne Apr 17, 2008 8:55 PM (in response to Wade S Zimmerman)Actually that makes it go muddy and magnolias should look sparkling-white.
There is still a small highlight on the right-side that is somewhat devoid of detail (even on the original 8-mega-pixel image) but I am quite surprised by the general performance of this little camera.
It's only a humble little Canon SX100 IS PowerShot!
I only got it to use as a sort of instant sketch-book but it's not too bad at all not that I intend to use it for any serious work. I still much prefer the way that my film cameras handle (and the faster and more controlled way of working with them than the fussiness and slowness of this thing).
And it EATS batteries.
Supposedly you can run it on two AA alkalines. Sure, you can if you have enough of them to change them every hour!
I have just ordered the nicads but, frankly, a battery-free manual film camera still knocks the socks off this electronic stuff.
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(Peter_Figen) Apr 17, 2008 9:00 PM (in response to Wade S Zimmerman)Take into account that I did it really quickly on a six year old laptop at home. I just wanted to show what was there even it it might need some more work to perfect.
As far as battery usage, at least the pro cameras have gotten much better. My first Canon 1DsMK1 would get 300+ shots per charge and the new 1DsMK3 is over 1800 shots on a battery half the physical size. -
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Fred Nirque Apr 17, 2008 9:27 PM (in response to Wade S Zimmerman)Whatever it is with that Zeiss lens, Peter, I can see it as having enormous potential in the deep temperate rainforest where I take much of my stuff. The colours in there are usually very dull and the place soaks light like you wouldn't believe. I've never been 100% happy with the way the Nikon lenses reacted to those colours and conditions using the D2x (although it certainly gave a better rendition than the way-over-the-top contrasty greens and blues that came with Velvia film).
All I'm after is a tad more contrast and colour saturation in shadows and a better tonal range overall. Hard to put into words, but even though the subject matter is totally different, the "look" of that pic of yours hit me instantly as the sort of thing I'm wanting - or maybe it's just a side effect of years of conditioning using Zeiss lenses with the Hasselblad :-) . We'll see how the D3 copes, but I'm seriously thinking about a Zeiss wide now. -
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Allen Wicks Apr 17, 2008 9:46 PM (in response to Wade S Zimmerman)>We have a wildflower hotline phone number where you can call to get current condtions all over California.
Umm, please share the hotline number!
I can advise that 6000 ft. Truckee, CA is just now losing snow. So far we see only a few snow plants (Sarcodes sanguinea) and daffodils is all... -
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Hudechrome-sd9sPI Apr 17, 2008 10:00 PM (in response to Wade S Zimmerman)New snow is falling in the Cascades as I write. -
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(Peter_Figen) Apr 17, 2008 10:44 PM (in response to Wade S Zimmerman)Allen, it looks like my memory was a little faulty. It seems that the hotline is for southern California only, but here it is: 818-768-3533. I thought I remembered more central and northern Ca. in the past. Check here also: http://www.theodorepayne.org/
Fred, there is definitely something about that particular lens. Some say it's both the design and just as important, the T* coatings. Whatever it is, I like it, and it really seems to come out when you've got sunlight adding some punch to the light.
"Hard to put into words, but even though the subject matter is totally different, the "look" of that pic of yours hit me instantly as the sort of thing I'm wanting "
That's exactly how I feel. It's funny when a single piece of equipment can affect what you do to such a degree. I also recently bought a Zeiss 35 Shift off eBay and unfortunately it's being repaired. It didn't focus to infinity. The repairman at Samy's is in the process of fixing it - yes I could have given it back to the old retired man in Palmdale I bought it from, but I just felt too bad for him. BTW, a new helicoid from Germany was over $2K. Anyway, that lens is supposed to be similar in performance.
Now, I'm not sure you can adapt Zeiss to Nikon. Do you know? I just looked at Steven Gandy's CameraQuest.com website and didn't see any adapters to put other lenses on Nikon bodies. fotodiox.com has Hassy and M-42 to Nikon, but nothing for Zeiss. -
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Fred Nirque Apr 17, 2008 11:15 PM (in response to Wade S Zimmerman)Peter, Zeiss are making a series of manual focus lenses specifically for Nikon F mount and Pentax K Mount SLRs which are fully digital compatible. No 21mm, but there is a 25mm which I might try to have a look at:
http://tinyurl.com/ylcgmw
I think they might be the Contax series with F & K mounts welded to the back..... -
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(Peter_Figen) Apr 17, 2008 11:18 PM (in response to Wade S Zimmerman)Oh yeah, I completely forgot about those. The 25mm is supposed to be a nice lens. I had been thinking singlemindedly about the 21mm and other older in the C/Z mount. -
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Fred Nirque Apr 17, 2008 11:27 PM (in response to Wade S Zimmerman)Wade, it's not 17mm, but if you haven't seen this yet it might be worth a read:
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Wade S Zimmerman Apr 18, 2008 4:29 AM (in response to Wade S Zimmerman)ell I am already doing well then withe 28mm shift lens and I seldom ever have need to tilt the lens. But thanks for the info.
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(bonniej) Apr 18, 2008 4:57 AM (in response to Wade S Zimmerman)Peter... the Lupins are spectacular... I wish we could get them to grow here, but no luck.
Ann.. Beautiful magnolia, you can almost feel the texture of the petals. My daughter has a Powershot (not sure what model) & yes it does eat batteries. What we ended up getting her... 2 sets of "fast" (15-minute) rechargables from Radio Shack. Now she always has fresh batteries without breaking the pocketbook.
With my Nikon D2x.. I could go 2 soccer games or a half day of wrestling matches without changing the batteries (1000-1500 pics depending if I was using flash or not). With the D3.. I can go 3+ soccer games & a complete day of wrestling without changing the batteries (1500-3000 depending if I am using flash or not & the strength) -
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Ann Shelbourne Apr 18, 2008 6:58 AM (in response to Wade S Zimmerman)Bonnie:
The Radio Shack idea is an excellent one.
I was just a little worried about alarmist reports that I have read about unauthorized batteries overheating and damaging Canon cameras that I have already sent for two sets of Canon's own rechargeable NMH batteries. -
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Hudechrome-sd9sPI Apr 18, 2008 7:55 AM (in response to Wade S Zimmerman)Very wise move, Ann.
I fully agree with the comments about how a particular piece of apparatus can influence the subsequent artistic production. Just moving from an upright to a grand piano makes a huge difference, for instance.
I have never photographed so well with 35mm film as I am doing with the D80. It was made for me, so to speak!
The "T" coating is a particular type of multi-coating Zeiss labels "T". When they came out, I tried an 80mm T coated against the earlier 80mm with the previous style. All I could see is when photographing into the sun with the sun just above the film frame, the flare was much less with the T. No other changes could be observed. -
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LRK 2 Apr 18, 2008 8:06 AM (in response to Wade S Zimmerman)> Spring finally reached me too:
Whoa!!!
The earth just shook. Did you all feel it? This shot came from a "digital" camera that is in the possession of Ann Shelbourne? Somebody pinch me because I must be dreaming.
It really is beautiful Ann! :-)
And so is Peter's!
You all must enjoy spring so much where you live.
Sorry if I missed any other nice shots. I'm having to rush through the posts I've been missing. Oh, I did see Bonnie's... which I had the pleasure of seeing privately. Bonnie knows how jealous I am. :-) -
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Allen Wicks Apr 18, 2008 8:54 AM (in response to Wade S Zimmerman)Ann-
I hardly know where to start, so I will break up your observations for commentary:
>It's only a humble little Canon SX100 IS PowerShot! ...I still much prefer the way that my film cameras handle (and the faster and more controlled way of working with them than the fussiness and slowness of this thing).
Correct, a cheap point-and-shoot. What we learned
i in the last century
as digicams evolved was that point-and-shoot digicams provided surprisingly good capture quality, especially for
b static
pix like macros BUT that the
i fussiness and slowness of the things
was a huge limitation to trying to capture any kind of dynamic imagery. Great for pix like flowers and lower end product photography however, and great for learning.
However, when the Nikon D1 was released in 1999 the
i fussiness and slowness
went away. We had full-on top quality SLR-type photography available with
b zero
i fussiness and slowness
(4+ fps). DSLRs have improved ever since and the US$4800 Nikon D3 is exemplary of today's state of the art.
There are now many good DSLRs as well as decent point-and shoot digicams. To maintain
i the faster and more controlled way of working with them
I would have directed you toward an Oly E-420 if you wanted a small DSLR, or to a Nikon D40 if you wanted best DSLR value at the US$500 low end , or to a Canon G9 if you really wanted a slow fussy point-and-shoot (that shoots RAW; important). There are many good DSLRs in the US$500-$8000 price range.
>...And it EATS batteries. ...Supposedly you can run it on two AA alkalines. Sure, you can if you have enough of them to change them every hour! ...I have just ordered the nicads...
You are correct, another thing we learned in the last century was that digicams could EAT batteries. My first battery operated digicam was a Nikon Coolpix 900 and it literally consumed 2 AAs in about ten minutes; IIRC we used it mostly a/c powered. However things evolved and that problem now only exists for specific not-recommended digicams like the Canon you purchased. We also learned that alkalines were poor, evolved to NiCads and then later to
b NiMH
which are far superior to NiCads. You should cancel your NiCad order and order NiMH along with a charger specific to the batteries you order.
>...frankly, a battery-free manual film camera still knocks the socks off this electronic stuff.
Sorry, wrong. Any competent DSLR photog with any competent DSLR can run circles around any battery-free manual 35mm film camera. Unfortunately you chose to compare your SLR against one of the lesser point-and-shoot digicams rather than against one of the better DSLRs.
b Also, better digicams no longer eat batteries.
My D2x, for instance, easily gets 500-1000 pix per charge, and I have it set to leave the LCD on for 30 seconds. Without such a wasteful LCD setting I probably could get many more frames from a single charge (however I usually do subconsciously half-press the shutter after shooting to shut down the LCD, so I may already be close to optimizing battery usage). And it recharges quickly. However there still are digicams (yours is one) that have not-so-good battery lives, so one needs to do prepurchase research. -
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Wade S Zimmerman Apr 18, 2008 9:29 AM (in response to Wade S Zimmerman)Don't worry Linda my skin cracked as well.
Actually for all the people on this Forum I would say they type of work that Ann does that requires a great deal of versatility and in different environments and that fact that as with all of us time has taken its toll on our abilities to lug heavy equipment around, well maybe me less so. It is a situation where you would integrate with your clients better and they would be willing once they had the images on the their desktop to agree to pay more for the services and will appreciate the investment and cost of maintaining this type of work flow.
They will say something like well yes I understand.
So for you it is probably a wise choice to convert to digital as it is more practical and you might even be able in part to finance the cost by selling some equipment you really do not need.
I will still have use both but at least now there is digital camera that I do like and it shows real promise. -
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Ann Shelbourne Apr 18, 2008 12:57 PM (in response to Wade S Zimmerman)>You should cancel your NiCad order and order NiMH along with a charger specific to the batteries you order.>
Actually, it was indeed the Canon NiMH batteries, along with their charger, that I ordered. (I am just in the habit of calling rechargeables "Nicads".)
The point of buying this little toy is that I can keep it in my handbag and use it as a sort of digital sketch-pad cum note-book device.
For ALL other photography, I will be continuing to use film.
My industrial clients hire me BECAUSE I use large-format film cameras and I will definitely be taking film, and not digital equipment, on my next long trek to distant places because the equipment is so much more robust and dependable even in the freezing cold and pouring rain..
But the PowerShot is a cute little toy anyway and it is small enough to shove in my handbag while seeming to be a bit more versatile, and of better quality, than those really compact cigarette-case type of digicams. -
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Allen Wicks Apr 18, 2008 1:07 PM (in response to Wade S Zimmerman)>I will definitely be taking film, and not digital equipment, on my next long trek to distant places because the equipment is so much more robust and dependable even in the freezing cold and pouring rain..
Wanna bet as to whether or not your choice of
b film
and camera is more
i robust and dependable
in the
b heat,
freezing cold and pouring rain than a Nikon D2x or D3 with two 8 GB Sandisk Extreme IV CF cards? Equivalent to 50+ rolls of film, but better quality and there is no need to preplan the color temp before you leave...
And do you really consider opening a camera to change film every 37 frames in heat/sand/rain/whatever to be a
i robust, dependable
process? Not to mention having ISO 50 in the rain or ISO 400 in bright sunlight when the weather chooses not to match the film in your camera.


