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1. Re: I'm goint to miss this forum so much as it is!
Ramón G Castañeda Apr 2, 2009 11:19 AM (in response to Cindy-)>just hope it doesn't get too pathetic
The speed and usability issues will determine that, Cindy.
I hope Eric, Mark et al. update the scripts to be usable in the forums next week. -
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Claudio González Apr 2, 2009 11:41 AM (in response to Cindy-)While I share Cindy's feelings, now that the big earthquake is almost here, I have just noticed that I don't know the answer to two simple questions:
1. How will we know when the big change comes into effect? I would think that we should be warned a few hours beforehand.
2. How will we know how to get into the new forums? I would think that URLs of the old forums will be as useless as those of the trial forums. -
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Ann Shelbourne Apr 2, 2009 11:47 AM (in response to Cindy-)>I'm not trying to change it anymore because I don't think I can stop the river.
nor save it from turning into an ugly, turgid, murky, trash-choked creek .
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Ann Shelbourne Apr 2, 2009 11:50 AM (in response to Cindy-)The New Forums are supposed to come on line on Monday.
>The new system will be at forums.adobe.com (not at the current adobeforums.adobe.com). -
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John T Smith Apr 2, 2009 11:56 AM (in response to Cindy-)>1. How will we know when
According to http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.59b7c501 all current forums will be unavailable while data is migrated
>2. How will we know how
I don't know, but will GUESS that all of the old links will have an automatic redirect to the new forum -
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Claudio González Apr 2, 2009 12:00 PM (in response to Cindy-)> The New Forums are supposed to come on line on Monday.
Well, at least JC will be around here all the time XD
>The new system will be at forums.adobe.com (not at the current adobeforums.adobe.com).
Well, you may blame it on my age if you wish, but I seem to have completely missed both announcements. Thanks, Ann. -
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Claudio González Apr 2, 2009 12:03 PM (in response to Cindy-)>all current forums will be unavailable while data is migrated
Well, that's understandable, but it doesn't answer my question. Thanks anyway, John. -
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Cindy- Apr 2, 2009 12:09 PM (in response to Cindy-)> but it doesn't answer my question.
It's at the top of the page
ANNOUNCEMENT: Forums will be unavailable for planned system maintenance starting at 3pm PST on April 3, 2009. New forums will be online on Monday April 6, 2009.
> 2. How will we know how
I'm sure there will be a link at adobe.com you can follow if it does not automatically re-direct. -
9. Re: I'm goint to miss this forum so much as it is!
(Phos±four_dots) Apr 2, 2009 12:25 PM (in response to Cindy-)10+ years here and I didn't even get a stinkin' T-Shirt.
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Cindy- Apr 2, 2009 12:43 PM (in response to Cindy-)I need a cookie and milk. -
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dave milbut Apr 2, 2009 2:39 PM (in response to Cindy-)>I need a cookie and milk.
and a hug... :) :( -
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dave milbut Apr 2, 2009 2:40 PM (in response to Cindy-)<prof. farnsworth>oh, i made myself sad.</prof. farnsworth><br /><br /><img src="http://milbut.org/images/Professor-farnsworth.gif"> -
13. Re: I'm goint to miss this forum so much as it is!
Jacob Bugge Apr 2, 2009 11:31 PM (in response to Cindy-)What Cindy said.
One thing is certain: from now on, the forums will be more fragmented, and therefore we shall be less of a community.
With the scripts, some of us may escape some ugliness, but that actually means that no longer shall we all see the same forums.
I shall miss that, too. -
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Claudio González Apr 3, 2009 7:09 AM (in response to Cindy-)Not to mention the crawling slowness of the trial forums... :-( -
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Curt Wrigley Apr 3, 2009 7:38 AM (in response to Cindy-)> One thing is certain: from now on, the forums will be more fragmented, and therefore we shall be less of a community.
Why do you think that? -
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Ann Shelbourne Apr 3, 2009 7:59 AM (in response to Cindy-)Why do I think that?
Because the new format is too slow and uneconomical to encourage anyone to want to linger very long; or to return very frequently.
Large gaps between items (both listings & messages) mean that you can no longer get around quickly; only half the number of items are now visible per screenful and any thread that gets pushed to the second page will get no further responses.
No thought has been given to the requirements that have been stated so very clearly by the most regular Users; and the development team have taken the lazy and easy way out by adopting the standard Jive format.
The considerable concern that has been shown about e-mail access in the last few days means that people are intending to use that method
to access the Forums which obviously indicates that they find the new format to be unusable by Browser.
That alone will kill the Forums as happened with the Macromedia Forums which were so ghastly that everyone resorted to News Readers.
The Adobe Forums have been a wonderful resource until today;
but is now being willfully destroyed. -
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dave milbut Apr 3, 2009 8:07 AM (in response to Cindy-)I so hope you're wrong ann! i wouldn't bet on it, but i hope so.
like i've maintained all along, i would hope that if the forums are FAST, if they throw enough horsepower at them, they MIGHT be usable. -
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D Fosse-QDEaQ1 Apr 3, 2009 8:28 AM (in response to Cindy-)What kills me is that you're not automatically taken to the first
i unread
post, as here.
The rest is bad enough, but
b that's
the real show-stopper. It really rips out the most basic functional access and navigation for...uh,
i power users. -
19. Re: I'm goint to miss this forum so much as it is!
Claudio González Apr 3, 2009 8:36 AM (in response to Cindy-)Freeagent, John has been giving a tremendous battle to include this vital functionality in the new forums, and I understand he hasn't been losing it. Let's cross our fingers. In any case, this is a "detail" that can be fixed once all the large fires have been extinguished... -
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D Fosse-QDEaQ1 Apr 3, 2009 8:39 AM (in response to Cindy-)That's a great relief to hear, Claudio :-)
I suppose I can live with the rest. -
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Jacob Bugge Apr 3, 2009 9:03 AM (in response to Cindy-)>One thing is certain: from now on, the forums will be more fragmented, and therefore we shall be less of a community.
>Why do you think that?
>Large gaps between items (both listings & messages) mean that you can no longer get around quickly; only half the number of items are now visible per screenful and any thread that gets pushed to the second page will get no further responses.
And with people and posts in separate boxes with different rankings, the sense of a unified community of equals will suffer.
I wonder how heavy the punishment in minus points will be for serious posters venturing to suggest reading the fine manual or, maybe even worse, venturing to state that these applications imply a steep learning curve so that a competent use actually requires a greater effort than do surfing, chatting, facebooking, and other socializing activities which may seem far more important. -
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dave milbut Apr 3, 2009 10:33 AM (in response to Cindy-)>Freeagent, John has been giving a tremendous battle to include this vital functionality in the new forums, and I understand he hasn't been losing it. Let's cross our fingers. In any case, this is a "detail" that can be fixed once all the large fires have been extinguished...
>That's a great relief to hear, Claudio
indeed!
>I wonder how heavy the punishment in minus points
are there minus points? or "negative karma" like devices? uh oh. i'm in trouble!!! :) it took me a year to get a positive karma on slashdot! :) -
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Claudio González Apr 3, 2009 1:10 PM (in response to Cindy-)I have just been to the trial forums, and only see buttons for adding points, not for removing them. I wonder if I'll manage to post this message... -
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Claudio González Apr 3, 2009 1:18 PM (in response to Cindy-)Made it. And this one? -
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Claudio González Apr 3, 2009 1:39 PM (in response to Cindy-)My mistake; I had my PST times wrong by an hour; still more than 20 minutes to go.. -
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dave milbut Apr 3, 2009 1:40 PM (in response to Cindy-)21... :) -
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Jacob Bugge Apr 3, 2009 1:44 PM (in response to Cindy-)15, and a bit. -
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Dorothy Krause Apr 3, 2009 1:49 PM (in response to Cindy-)Down to 10 now. See how close they cut it. I'm supposed to leave work at the zero hour tho... will I be late?? -
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Cindy- Apr 3, 2009 1:50 PM (in response to Cindy-)as I said, you are enjoying this. -
30. Re: I'm goint to miss this forum so much as it is!
Claudio González Apr 3, 2009 1:54 PM (in response to Cindy-)Aren't you, Cindy? And only 6 minutes to go... -
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Claudio González Apr 3, 2009 1:55 PM (in response to Cindy-)I should have said: for the tsunami to arrive. We are all expecting it to come, wishing that it never did, and hoping we will not be too much hurt... -
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Cindy- Apr 3, 2009 1:56 PM (in response to Cindy-)Not really... -
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Jacob Bugge Apr 3, 2009 1:56 PM (in response to Cindy-)4. -
34. Re: I'm goint to miss this forum so much as it is!
Claudio González Apr 3, 2009 2:00 PM (in response to Cindy-)About 10 seconds now -
35. Re: I'm goint to miss this forum so much as it is!
Jacob Bugge Apr 3, 2009 2:00 PM (in response to Cindy-)Time is up.





