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1. Re: How do you log out?
Kath-H Apr 6, 2009 12:04 PM (in response to Nini Tjäder)???? I've never logged into or out of a specific forum, I don't remember any way to do that in the old forums. If you logged out, you were out of the whole system.
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2. Re: How do you log out?
Nini Tjäder Apr 6, 2009 12:08 PM (in response to Kath-H)I have a dim recollection of a log out link in the old forums but I might remember wrong. Why I wondered now is because I really wanted to try another login as I suddenly got another identy with these new forums. And I did NOT join today, I joined in August 2002...
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3. Re: How do you log out?
Kath-H Apr 6, 2009 12:10 PM (in response to Nini Tjäder)You would need to have associated your Adobe ID and your old-forum screen-name before the changeover to have your number of posts picked up. I think.
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4. Re: How do you log out?
Nini Tjäder Apr 6, 2009 12:14 PM (in response to Kath-H)I DID. Not that it helped much today.
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5. Re: How do you log out?
Kath-H Apr 6, 2009 12:18 PM (in response to Nini Tjäder)OK, sorry. Don't know then.
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6. Re: How do you log out?
Nini Tjäder Apr 6, 2009 12:31 PM (in response to Kath-H)I found out how to log out... Just go to Your account at top of page. You then automatically get logged out and have to log in again to go to a forum. That way I also managed to actually find one of my other 3 or 4 accounts and log in to the one I wanted and get my name back. So I am back in my real name again. Took a couple fo hours...
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7. Re: How do you log out?
Kath-H Apr 6, 2009 12:32 PM (in response to Nini Tjäder)Ah. I could have told you how to log out - I thought you meant just from one forum.
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8. Re: How do you log out?
Buko. Apr 6, 2009 1:40 PM (in response to Kath-H)You don't need to, the forum logs you out automatically.
At least it does it to me.
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9. Re: How do you log out?
Phillip Jones Apr 6, 2009 2:46 PM (in response to Nini Tjäder)if your reading a message in a Given Forum and want to quit the thread to the right click on: stop email Notifications.
If you want to stop looking at an entire Forum you will see a line long the lines of Adobe Forums> Adobe General Forums> Forum contents (using this forum for an example. Click on the Forum and when you see the list of topics click again on: stop email Notifications This will tell sytem to stop sending email notifications either for a given thread, or an entire forum; depending upon what you choose.
Message was edited by: Phillip Jones, C.E.T. (pjonesCET)
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10. Re: How do you log out?
Nini Tjäder Apr 6, 2009 2:55 PM (in response to Buko.)I left it for a coupel of hours and only then did i get logged out. Otherwise not unless going to the 2Your account" at top of page. Then you are out and can log in with another identity. I suddenly have three (that I know of).
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11. Re: How do you log out?
Buko. Apr 6, 2009 3:07 PM (in response to Nini Tjäder)Nini you can set your profile to show your real name instead of the screen name.
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13. Re: How do you log out?
Phillip Jones Apr 6, 2009 4:08 PM (in response to dave milbut)Yes you can do that but that logs you out of the system entirely. Even logs you out of Adobe.com
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15. Re: How do you log out?
Phillip Jones Apr 6, 2009 5:39 PM (in response to dave milbut)You see that diagram you posted then circled Sign out.
That not only signs you our of Forums that also signs you out of adobe.com
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16. Re: How do you log out?
greenjumpyone Apr 6, 2009 5:48 PM (in response to Phillip Jones)oh c'mon, it's not *that* easy! All I had to do was keep my browser window open and I was automatically logged out of the forum.
Gee, wonder how *that* happened?
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17. Re: How do you log out?
Nini Tjäder Apr 7, 2009 9:05 AM (in response to dave milbut)That signs you out of your account not the forums.
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18. Re: How do you log out?
Kath-H Apr 7, 2009 9:08 AM (in response to Nini Tjäder)Once you sign out of your adobe account, you are signed out of the forums. I think. It's the automatic timed log-outs that are out of sync for the two systems. I think.
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19. Re: How do you log out?
Nini Tjäder Apr 7, 2009 9:08 AM (in response to Buko.)Thanks buko. Now done. I didn't really notice that one until you pointed me to it.
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20. Re: How do you log out?
Phillip Jones Apr 7, 2009 9:09 AM (in response to Nini Tjäder)Try it if you sign out and go to adobe.com (not the newsgroups) you'll be signed out there aas well. The forums are no longer on a subsystem like they were with WebX.
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21. Re: How do you log out?
Kath-H Apr 7, 2009 9:09 AM (in response to Nini Tjäder)This option for threading of messages is gong to cause havoc - I'm in flat view so I don't see what people are replying to via threaded view.
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22. Re: How do you log out?
Zeno Bokor Apr 7, 2009 9:15 AM (in response to Kath-H)the problem with threaded view is that it's not on by default so most people don't even know that it exists and just click on one of the reply buttons at random when they want to post which is also why i'm not using it
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23. Re: How do you log out?
dave milbut Apr 7, 2009 9:45 AM (in response to Kath-H)Kath-H wrote:
This option for threading of messages is gong to cause havoc - I'm in flat view so I don't see what people are replying to via threaded view.
wait a minute... if you reply in a threaded view, and i'm viewing flat view, and i go to the near end, where i last read a post, are you saying that there could have been posts INSERTED before the last one i read because those people posted in threaded view? if you're in flat view, you view ALL posts in date/time entered order, no? otherwise what's the point?
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24. Re: How do you log out?
Kath-H Apr 7, 2009 10:47 AM (in response to dave milbut)Yes, but in flat view I can see someone replying to someone else, but because they are replying to something several posts back, it makes no sense to me. Doesn't matter - it's not for me - but it's confusing.
The last post might be 'Thanks, I'll try that'. Or even 'I tried that, didn't work'. If they are responding to a suggestion 12 posts back, I don't know what suggestion they are talking about. If we're, say, troubleshooting a Golive problem, that could be very problematic.
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25. Re: How do you log out?
DorothyK@Adobe Apr 7, 2009 7:51 PM (in response to Kath-H)flat view is arranged chronologically, as people posted. Much easier for me to follow. If people are looking at it threaded, unread posts are likely to be above others that were posted and read earlier. My best connection to what people are replying to, if people don't use quotes, is the "in response to ______" statement at the top of the post.
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26. Re: How do you log out?
John Joslin Apr 7, 2009 10:24 PM (in response to DorothyK@Adobe)DorothyK@Adobe wrote:
flat view is arranged chronologically, as people posted. Much easier for me to follow. If people are looking at it threaded, unread posts are likely to be above others that were posted and read earlier. My best connection to what people are replying to, if people don't use quotes, is the "in response to ______" statement at the top of the post.
Sorry, that doesn't answer the question.
You don't have to follow the technicalities in every thread (even if you could!)
There seems to be a basic flaw here.
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27. Re: How do you log out?
Curt Wrigley Apr 7, 2009 10:29 PM (in response to John Joslin)John Joslin wrote:
There seems to be a basic flaw here.
What is the basic flaw?
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28. Re: How do you log out?
John Joslin Apr 7, 2009 10:35 PM (in response to Curt Wrigley)What is the basic flaw?
What Kath said.
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29. Re: How do you log out?
Curt Wrigley Apr 7, 2009 10:39 PM (in response to John Joslin)That is the nature of flat view. Its how all forums work in flat view. The threaded view on the other hand threads replys under the post being replied to as you would expect.
How would you expect it to work?
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30. Re: How do you log out?
John Joslin Apr 7, 2009 10:46 PM (in response to Curt Wrigley)Curt Wrigley wrote:
How would you expect it to work?I know it works.That doesn't mean it doesn't have a flaw.
Having a choice of two views creates problems in following complex discussions.
If everyone followed one convention life would be easier.
But then this isn't about making life easy is it?
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31. Re: How do you log out?
Kath-H Apr 7, 2009 10:47 PM (in response to John Joslin)Dorothy, you're doing it again. Your post is just noise - I don't think you're contractually obliged to respond to everything, regardless of whether you have anything helpful to add.
My point is that having a mixture of people on flat and threaded view is going to be seriously confusing. Once we stop concentrating on the new system and get back to some work in the forums, this is going to cause real frustration.
I'm not asking you personally to fix anything, I know you can't. I'm trying to draw attention to what I think may turn out to be a real problem, so that those with the power to do so might possibly reconsider, and opt for all threaded or all flat (my preference).
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32. Re: How do you log out?
Curt Wrigley Apr 7, 2009 10:54 PM (in response to Kath-H)Even if everyone is in flat view you may reply to an individual post or the original post. Either case, the reply is pretty clearly marked who you are replying to. If you arent sure, you can click the link (blue arrow) and be taken there.
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33. Re: How do you log out?
John Joslin Apr 7, 2009 11:06 PM (in response to Curt Wrigley)Curt Wrigley wrote:
Even if everyone is in flat view you may reply to an individual post or the original post. Either case, the reply is pretty clearly marked who you are replying to. If you arent sure, you can click the link (blue arrow) and be taken there.
<sigh>
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34. Re: How do you log out?
Kath-H Apr 7, 2009 11:14 PM (in response to John Joslin)And get into some weird cat's cradle of responses? I'm sighing with JJ. You know, we used a nice low-tech system of starting a reply with '@ xxx' if it wasn't clear. Worked fine.
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35. Re: How do you log out?
Curt Wrigley Apr 7, 2009 11:17 PM (in response to Kath-H)While you are sighing; have you considered that it is possibly much more confusing to have the old functionality of webx where you can only reply to the thread and nobody knows what you are repling to unless you include "re post number 23"?
Let go of the past
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36. Re: How do you log out?
Kath-H Apr 7, 2009 11:26 PM (in response to Curt Wrigley)Curt Wrigley wrote:
While you are sighing; have you considered that it is possibly much more confusing to have the old functionality of webx where you can only reply to the thread and nobody knows what you are repling to unless you include "re post number 23"?
Let go of the past
'Let go of the past' vs throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Chronological discussions are not confusing in the slightest. It couldn't be simpler to clarify what you are replying to if necessary. Even threaded discussions need not be confusing - mixing the two is where the difficulties lie. Just because something is new does not *always* mean that *all* of it is a good idea.
nobody knows what you are repling to
Are you serious? To the last post of course, 98% of the time. And a quick quote or @ comment if not.
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37. Re: How do you log out?
John Joslin Apr 7, 2009 11:32 PM (in response to Kath-H)It's no good Kath, you can't halt "Progress".
It's all about going forward and expanding the envelope.
Just try thinking out of the box for a change.
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38. Re: How do you log out?
Curt Wrigley Apr 7, 2009 11:33 PM (in response to Kath-H)Kath-H wrote:
Chronological discussions are not confusing in the slightest. It couldn't be simpler to clarify what you are replying to if necessary.
Actually, it could be a lot simpler. The system could add who you are replying to automatically.
But; if it isnt obvious to you; Im not going to be able to convince you.
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39. Curt,
Kath-H Apr 7, 2009 11:45 PM (in response to Curt Wrigley)Curt Wrigley wrote:
Kath-H wrote:
Chronological discussions are not confusing in the slightest. It couldn't be simpler to clarify what you are replying to if necessary.
Actually, it could be a lot simpler. The system could add who you are replying to automatically.
But; if it isnt obvious to you; Im not going to be able to convince you.
Curt, please listen to me. First off, pointing out that some new features do not seem to be an improvement doesn't put me in dinosaur territory.
Second, even if we added an extra 'feature' of telling me who is being replied to, that doesn't tell me what they said. To know that I'd have to start jumping back and forth. If I don't even realise that an apparent non sequitur is because a person is replying to something a couple of pages back - because they are using threaded view - that's a recipe for confusion.
Before, if we needed to reply to a post some way back, we'd swipe through the relevant text - as more than one post was visible when replying, another new annoyance - add a greater than symbol, paste and carry on.
How do you think people will react if they've never been here before, have no clue about what threaded/flat views even are?
I don't particularly like threaded view, partly because of the ever-shrinking width, but I'd live with it if everyone used it.
If I insisted on living in the past I'd still be using Pagemaker or Quark and Pagemill - but you don't have to lose your critical faculties every time someone waves something new and shiny in front of your eyes.






