13 Replies Latest reply: May 7, 2009 5:12 AM by Zeno Bokor RSS

    CS4 skin issues

    harry teasley Community Member

      I've brought this up in the Feature Requests forum, but there are bugs, so I mention them here.

       

      The new CS4 skin behaves very badly for me: it doesn't refresh properly, under a variety of circumstances. Sometimes the titlebar shows the GDI skin, but the Adobe skin is the active one (so min/max/close buttons are functionally in a different location than they are visually). Today, when I go into Fullscreen with Menus mode, the menu and option bar simply grey out. Everything displays correctly in windowed mode, but not my favored mode.

       

      I try with CS4 maximized, windowed, OGL acceleration on and off. I am coming to really hate the fagility of the new skin of PS.

        • 1. Re: CS4 skin issues
          harry teasley Community Member

          I'm also getting the brush palette showing up underneath my canvases, I can't get it to show on top.

           

          Argh, that's my feeling with CS4's display issues.

          • 2. Re: CS4 skin issues
            John Joslin Community Member

            The new UI is pretty difficult to live with Harry, but you can live with it with a bit of experimentation.


            There are simply too many bloody settings to fiddle with.  


            If it's really funky, try the good old "reset preferences"!

            • 3. Re: CS4 skin issues
              Chris Cox Adobe Employee

              Photoshop doesn't have "skins".

               

              Either you're seeing a drawing problem due to a bad plugin (like the Nik issues), or you have something else on your system messing up application drawing (like a video card driver, or some extension modifying drawing behavior).

              • 4. Re: CS4 skin issues
                harry teasley Community Member

                Chris Cox wrote:

                 

                Photoshop doesn't have "skins".

                 

                Either you're seeing a drawing problem due to a bad plugin (like the Nik issues), or you have something else on your system messing up application drawing (like a video card driver, or some extension modifying drawing behavior).

                Well, inasmuch as I see PS all the time switching between GDI window appearance, and the new white window appearance, it acts like a misbehaving app that has customizable skins. I consistently get bad refreshes, and see elements of both the white appearance and the GDI windows that underlay it all.

                 

                I have updated to the latest nvidia drivers, and am running no additional plugins to PS: it's a vanilla install. I have no extensions that modify my display drawing behavior, that I know of. I used to run the Huey Pro software, but don't currently. About the only thing that might be affecting this is my secondary display is my Cintiq, and that's the screen I run PS on.

                • 5. Re: CS4 skin issues
                  Chris Cox Adobe Employee

                  If you're seeing stuff like that, something is very, very wrong with your system.

                  • 6. Re: CS4 skin issues
                    harry teasley Community Member

                    Chris Cox wrote:

                     

                    If you're seeing stuff like that, something is very, very wrong with your system.

                    Much as I respect you, Chris, I find that answer a bit presumptuous. Given the known issues list of CS4, I am compelled to believe that my system is not wholly at issue. I run a wide variety of graphically intense apps for development, and CS4 is the standout in this regard. That's not intended to be a conclusive assumption (that would be foolish). But there are known display issues with CS4, and I'm finding the new UI to have several.

                    • 7. Re: CS4 skin issues
                      John Joslin Community Member

                      harry teasley wrote:

                       

                      Well, inasmuch as I see PS all the time switching between GDI window appearance, and the new white window appearance, it acts like a misbehaving app that has customizable skins. I consistently get bad refreshes, and see elements of both the white appearance and the GDI windows that underlay it all.

                       

                      Just when do you see this mixed UI behaviour within Photoshop?


                      PS itself is only shades of grey for me apart from the highlighted menu areas.


                      My settings are

                      ui.jpg

                      • 8. Re: CS4 skin issues
                        harry teasley Community Member

                        I see the appearance I am supposed to see, much of the time, but generally when moving from windowed to maximized mode, or the F-key canvas display modes, the UI often redraws incorrectly.

                        • 9. Re: CS4 skin issues
                          Per Berntsen Community Member

                          Are you seeing something like this? Happens to me all the time, seems to be conntected to the thin line that runs across the application bar - I've seen this line reported before. I see this on two computers, both running XP SP3, Ps 11.0.1

                           

                          PsCS4.png

                          • 10. Re: CS4 skin issues
                            harry teasley Community Member

                            Oh, yes, I get that one constantly. It's one of the reasons that it's apparent to me that there is a standard Windows UI backing up this new appearance, and why I think things might just be better if we could have the option to see that appearance.

                            • 11. Re: CS4 skin issues
                              John Joslin Community Member

                              I can't induce my computer to show that effect in Vista 64.


                              Nevertheless I am constantly cursing this flat and unhelpful interface. It makes Windows look positively beautiful in comparison!


                              The loss of colour cues and context menus is unforgiveable. How could Nack have heralded this POS with such a fanfare of trumpets?

                              • 12. Re: CS4 skin issues
                                antonhusz Community Member

                                Hello,

                                 

                                Recently everyone at my company upgraded to CS4 and we all have the same problem with the flickering display settings as indicated by the above screen capture.  This is very problematic for us since the UI does seem to work LESS well than in CS2.  As for the bad systems that is unlikely.  Most of us have brand new intel quad core machines running XP pro with 4 gigs of ram each.  Our video cards are all beefy (mine is ATI Radeon HD 3800 Series) and our drivers are updated constantly and consistantly by our IT department.  All of the the other CS4 products we run are doing just fine (Indesign CS4 and Illustrator CS4).  Thus this does appear to be a bug in the Photoshop interface.  I personally have not upgraded to cs4 at home since cs3 seems to run way better.  If there is a fix to this please let us know we purchased 10+ suites and the only problem we're having is the photoshop UI bugs.  Can you please help us!

                                 

                                Anthon

                                • 13. Re: CS4 skin issues
                                  Zeno Bokor CommunityMVP

                                  try upgrading Photoshop and the video card drivers to the latest version, if that doesn't help then disable OpenGL Drawing from Edit->Preferences->Performance. If it still doesn't work then try to disable any 3rd party plug-ins that you might have installed