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1. Re: Naming layers - often ignores spacebar - others have this prob?
Ramón G Castañeda May 5, 2009 7:02 PM (in response to craig cheatham)Why are you running 10.5.5 and not 10.5.6?
What version of Photoshop?
Please read this post by a forum host for advice on how to ask your questions correctly for quicker and better answers:
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/375816?tstart=0
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2. Re: Naming layers - often ignores spacebar - others have this prob?
Chris Cox May 5, 2009 7:46 PM (in response to craig cheatham)My bet is that you engaged an OS shortcut and it's eating the space key as a command.
Perhaps command space (which has at least 2 different shortcuts assigned to it by Apple)?
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3. Re: Naming layers - often ignores spacebar - others have this prob?
craig cheatham May 6, 2009 10:35 AM (in response to Ramón G Castañeda)Ramon,
"Why are you running 10.5.5 and not 10.5.6?" -- because this is what our IT guy has installed.
I'm using CS4 Extended. Others in the studio experiencing this issue are on CS4, CS3. But as I said in the original post I have run into this issue on various Macs, OS versions, and Photoshop versions, in several work environments where others have had the same experience. It is a transient issue, showing up for no apparent reason, and then stopping 5 minutes to an hour later.
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4. Re: Naming layers - often ignores spacebar - others have this prob?
craig cheatham May 6, 2009 10:37 AM (in response to Chris Cox)Thanks Chris, I'll look into the OS shortcut issue, but I think I have most of those disabled because they interfere with PS. That could explain the transient nature of the issue.
Craig
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5. Re: Naming layers - often ignores spacebar - others have this prob?
Ramón G Castañeda May 6, 2009 10:48 AM (in response to craig cheatham)craig cheatham wrote:
"Why are you running 10.5.5 and not 10.5.6?" -- because this is what our IT guy has installed.
I'd fire the worthless bum. Did he at least update Photoshop CS4 to 11.0.1 for you?
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6. Re: Naming layers - often ignores spacebar - others have this prob?
craig cheatham May 6, 2009 12:16 PM (in response to Ramón G Castañeda)We are not on 11.0.1.
He is by no measure a worthless bum. While I understand the value of being up to date on all releases, the issue I brought up here is a legacy issue, as I've said, that has occurred on previous versions of Photoshop, previous OS versions, various work environments. This is not something limited to MY experience and MY work station settings. I'm inquiring how many others have witnessed this annoying feature of the software we use everyday.
Thanks,
Craig
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7. Re: Naming layers - often ignores spacebar - others have this prob?
Ramón G Castañeda May 6, 2009 12:26 PM (in response to craig cheatham)The 11.0.1 update contains significant bug fixes. It's more a mandatory update than an optional one.
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8. Re: Naming layers - often ignores spacebar - others have this prob?
craig cheatham May 6, 2009 4:17 PM (in response to Chris Cox)Chris, in response to your reply, "
My bet is that you engaged an OS shortcut and it's eating the space key as a command.
Perhaps command space (which has at least 2 different shortcuts assigned to it by Apple)?"
I have checked and I have no shortcuts enabled that use the spacebar.
It's hard for me to believe that it is only people in my sphere of experience that have run into this problem.
Craig
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9. Re: Naming layers - often ignores spacebar - others have this prob?
Simon J.A. Simpson May 7, 2009 5:04 AM (in response to craig cheatham)I too have experienced this problem - with Mac OSX 10.4.11 and 10.4.9 - but only with CS4 and not CS2 nor CS.
I am trying to see what it might be that triggers the problem, and what might 'cure' it, but not have not yet managed to isolate anything conclusively.
Chris, it might well be a conflict with OS - or some keyboard shortcuts - but like Craig I do not have any set-up. Also this problem is definitely not manifest in CS nor CS2.
If I manage to identify a possible cause I'll let you all know !
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10. Re: Naming layers - often ignores spacebar - others have this prob?
PeterK.. May 7, 2009 7:30 AM (in response to craig cheatham)I've had this happen on OS 10.4.11 using Photoshop CS3. It is very annoying. It also makes it so that I can't scroll to the left or right of a long name using arrow keys, making it even harder to edit the name.
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11. Re: Naming layers - often ignores spacebar - others have this prob?
craig cheatham May 7, 2009 11:06 AM (in response to PeterK..)Simon and Peter, thank you for responding, I was beginning to feel that this was something only happening in my universe.
By the way, can someone tell me how this post got rated as possibly answered? Isn't that something that the Original Poster should *****?
Craig
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12. Re: Naming layers - often ignores spacebar - others have this prob?
Buko. May 7, 2009 11:18 AM (in response to craig cheatham)I've had problems with the space bar in all of the creative suites as craig points out its very random. I have noticed it using the type tool as well. Have not seen it lately I'm running 11.0.1. in Tiger.
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13. Re: Naming layers - often ignores spacebar - others have this prob?
Chris Cox May 7, 2009 12:24 PM (in response to craig cheatham)"possibly answered" == someone replied
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14. Re: Naming layers - often ignores spacebar - others have this prob?
Chris Cox May 7, 2009 12:26 PM (in response to PeterK..)Well, when you're in an edit field, you're using the MacOS native edit text code. The application can add some behaviors, but most of it comes straight from the OS.
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15. Re: Naming layers - often ignores spacebar - others have this prob?
Joe@Pocketpiglets.com May 7, 2009 1:28 PM (in response to craig cheatham)Hasn't happened to me, but try hitting alt-SPACE, as that may avoid a registered hotkey.
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17. Re: Naming layers - often ignores spacebar - others have this prob?
craig cheatham May 19, 2009 12:21 PM (in response to Ramón G Castañeda)Still having this problem.
Ramon, thanks for the picture, but as I stated, twice I think, I have most keyboard shortcuts disabled, especially including those that invoke use of the spacebar. Of course Chris Cox thinks this is an OS issue. I'm sure Apple would tell me it was Adobe's issue.
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18. Re: Naming layers - often ignores spacebar - others have this prob?
Ramón G Castañeda May 19, 2009 8:45 PM (in response to craig cheatham)The thing is, even if you had disabled Command Space, it can get enabled when you add anything to your input menu, that's why I mentioned it.
Yes, this is all at the OS level.
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19. Re: Naming layers - often ignores spacebar - others have this prob?
craig cheatham May 20, 2009 12:40 AM (in response to Ramón G Castañeda)Thanks Ramon,
I understand the point you are making, however, I have added nothing to my "Input Menu". This problem, as I and other have stated, occurs seemingly at random, associated with no specific key commands, errors of input or anything else. It seems to be an application specific problem that occurs because the application is doing something behind the scenes. Perhaps something like clearing the memory cache? I don't know. It comes up randomly and then disappears at random. It is vexing and slows my production. You can say that it is OS specific, but I don't see anything to support that. There are 5 people in our studio who experience this. There were 8 people at a previous place of employment who experienced this, and on an older OS, and older version of PS. It IS a weird bug, but it IS a bug. It is annoying and gets in the way. It may seem minor, but when I want to name a layer, "darken shadow on housing", and it comes up "darkenshadowinhousing", and I have to correct it to "darken_shadow_in_housing", this is a pain in my, well, let's say, my productivity.
This issue is NOT solved. But thanks for the input, all of you.
Craig
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20. Re: Naming layers - often ignores spacebar - others have this prob?
Wade_Zimmerman May 20, 2009 1:02 AM (in response to craig cheatham)Has anyone suggested trashing the Photoshop settings folder in the user's preferences or trying this in a new user account?
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21. Re: Naming layers - often ignores spacebar - others have this prob?
Simon J.A. Simpson Jun 3, 2009 9:58 AM (in response to Wade_Zimmerman)I believe I've found a way of restoring the ability to use the spacebar in naming layers - although I haven't yet been able to identify what causes the problem in the first place.
To restore the spacebar's functionality double-click on the layer itself (not the icon, mask, nor name) to open the 'Layer Style' dialogue box. Click OK to close the box. Spacebar functionality restored !
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22. Re: Naming layers - often ignores spacebar - others have this prob?
Reynolds (Mark) Jun 3, 2009 10:28 AM (in response to Simon J.A. Simpson)craig - Its definately some OS related issue, but probably something easily correctable and nothing too serious. Another System preference to check that sometimes creates problems - Universal Access. For most people Voice Over should be off, and check your keyboard settnigs here. For some reason this preference can mess quite seriously with things.
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23. Re: Naming layers - often ignores spacebar - others have this prob?
craig cheatham Jun 3, 2009 1:07 PM (in response to Simon J.A. Simpson)Simon,
Thanks, I'll give that a try next time this pops up.
Mark,
I'm not sure why you are so confident it is an OS issue. I'm not saying it is not, I just don't have such a deep knowledge of the architecture to be confident that the prob lies there. I've run into this prob going back to OS 9. As I've stated previously, coworkers in different job places, work environments, different OS, different versions of PS, have all had this issue pop up.
FWIW, Universal Access is off.
Craig
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24. Re: Naming layers - often ignores spacebar - others have this prob?
Reynolds (Mark) Jun 3, 2009 1:38 PM (in response to craig cheatham)I'm not sure why you are so confident it is an OS issue.
Because I've not really seen these space bar issues UNLESS its in some ways OS related. On any machine, any version of Photoshop. The only time I saw this was once with a wireless keyboard. Battery was low. Its also possible that it might be related to external software and some default keyboard setting. Some of these, itunes controllers for exmple and widgets, can have default OS level shortcuts associated with them.





