11 Replies Latest reply: May 8, 2009 6:53 AM by on5lb RSS

    Zoomable font !

    on5lb Community Member

      Hello,

       

      I created a vectoryzed drawing, which must have the oportunity to be zoomed, (50 to 100%)

       

      No problems...except for the characters i need to include ! (Figures and Text)

       

      I tried several Fonts, but all are losing there initial softness compared to the drawing.

       

      Is there some expert who can tell me which kind of Font to use ?

       

      Thanks for your comment.

       

      Regards,

      Jean

        • 1. Re: Zoomable font !
          Wade_Zimmerman Community Member

          There are fonts that are specifically designed as optimized for the web if you do a search you should be able to find them.

          • 2. Re: Zoomable font !
            [scott] CommunityMVP

            I don't understand the problem.

             

            A well designed font will look exactly the same at any size in a vector application.

             

            What do you mean by "softness?" Fonts do not change based on scale.

            • 3. Re: Zoomable font !
              Wade_Zimmerman Community Member

              ScottWeichert wrote:

               

              Fonts do not change based on scale.

              that is not quite true real fonts are re drawn based on their size and there are fonts optimized for small sizes on the web and there are fonts that are optimized for the web as well.

               

              True the tendency today is to make one regardless of the size it is being used at but that still is not the correct way of scaling type.

               

              But the OP is correct there are fonts available for this very purpose.

              • 4. Re: Zoomable font !
                [scott] CommunityMVP

                Where on Earth are you getting "web" from anything in this thread other than your posts, Wade? The OP never posted anything about web fonts.

                 

                I was referring to vector fonts meaning opentype, type 1, true type... not screen fonts.

                • 5. Re: Zoomable font !
                  Wade_Zimmerman Community Member

                  You are right Scott for some reason I was reading zoomify, thinking he was going to magnify on a web site.

                   

                  Never mind then.

                  • 6. Re: Zoomable font !
                    on5lb Community Member

                    Hello,

                     

                    Thanks both of you, but please accept my apologies, i'm a french speaking person, and i will try to be more specific !

                     

                    In fact...i created a vectoryzed drawing using Illustrator CS3 which has 600 by 600 pixels at 300 ppp.

                     

                    Into the drawing, i have to include figures and letters.

                     

                    The drawing must have the possibility to be zoomed at full screen, which is without problems for the drawing it selves, but the characters are showing small pixalisation,  while the drawing is perfect.

                     

                    What i'm looking for, (if it exist ?), is some specific font able to keep his original aspect when increased at 50 at 100% from his original shape.

                     

                    Hope this will help to understand my problem ?

                     

                    Regards,

                    Jean

                    • 7. Re: Zoomable font !
                      Mylenium CommunityMVP

                      Sounds like you are using bitmap fonts (a point which has been lost in the previous discussion). If so, your only option is to find true vector-based substitutes for them or rebuild all the glyphs as conventional vector art. Also consider, that the font antialaising may look differently based on what kerning/ leading/ spacing settings you use, you scale the glyphs, use faux bold etc. One more thing to consider: If you e.g. plan on using your vector art in Flash, you can employ different antialiasing settings there, which may not relate at all to what AIs preview gives you.

                       

                      Mylenium

                      • 8. Re: Zoomable font !
                        on5lb Community Member

                        Hi Mylenium,

                         

                        Thanks for your detailed comments.

                         

                        We do have lots of Fonts, but agree not be an expert using them ;-)

                         

                        Each particular person has a specific job, my job is more devoted to create specific Vision Systems for Industrail Quality Control !

                         

                        We do have Flash CS4 as well, but it's not used for what you describe.

                         

                        So, can you please let me know what kind of  type (detailed name ?) of Font you will use for such project ?

                         

                        Its difficult to follow when you're not using some application (like Flash) every day, and i made the vector using Illustrator, which i use since...Years !!

                         

                        Thanks in advance for your comments,

                        Regards,

                        Jean

                        • 9. Re: Zoomable font !
                          Wade_Zimmerman Community Member

                          Not to take away from Myleniums suggestion but rather to offer a 

                          simple solution in case it doesn't work for you.

                           

                          My suggestion is that since you have no problem with zooming the 

                          vector graphics why not simply outline the text. That way the text 

                          will be vector as well.

                          Although I don't understand why the text is not vector in the first 

                          place.

                          • 10. Re: Zoomable font !
                            Mylenium CommunityMVP

                            Mmh, yeah, difficult to answer without actually seeing what you are working on. If it's for industrial stuff, the actual typeface selection would be limited, as for pretty much anything there is a standard/ ISO norm or as here in Germany, DIN. This means you can use DIN fonts, Courier, OCR A and B and a few others, but nothing all too fancy. Still, I do tend to think that you are simply using a bitmap font, possibly a plotter font from a CAD suite. If so, then surely you can find the respective vector fonts from some comemrcial provider or even from the company that provided the bitmap versions along with their program. As for Flash - if you're not using it, then don't worry. It only offers these additional modes for achieving a consisten look and improving contrast e.g. when using text over video or scaled bitmap graphics... Nothing you would want for print rasterization or similar use cases.

                             

                            Mylenium

                            • 11. Re: Zoomable font !
                              on5lb Community Member

                              Hi Mylenium,

                               

                              I'm not intend to put the project via the WEB, it's a typical kind of reduced manual, including "Date & Time".

                               

                              It should be included on the computer into a control room.

                               

                              Depending on the computer used, i give the possibility to increase the vectorized images threy need to see.

                               

                              But, the Date & Time is a problem when zooming ! It's based on JavaScript and the character are used from the Font Folder (plenty of)!

                               

                              That's the real problem, finding compatible characters !

                              Regards,

                              Jean