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2. Re: New Bug/Anomaly alert
Kath-H May 13, 2009 12:44 PM (in response to dave milbut)I see the 'updated' flag too.
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3. Re: New Bug/Anomaly alert
Phos±four dots May 13, 2009 12:44 PM (in response to dave milbut)dave milbut wrote:
i don't know about you, but i gtet the little red flag, which means it said "(Updated)"
Hmm...I thought the flag image was merely a replacement for the (Updated) text, and enabled by a script—which I haven't installed.
So now I'm wondering what would enable you to see the flag indicator, but yet I don't see the text?
Good thing I hesitated to unequivocally call it a bug.
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4. Re: New Bug/Anomaly alert
Kath-H May 13, 2009 12:45 PM (in response to Phos±four dots)I didn't mean literally a flag, I see the Updated text.
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6. Re: New Bug/Anomaly alert
Phos±four dots May 13, 2009 12:56 PM (in response to Kath-H)OK, Kath...Now that you replied to the "Gandhi" thread, I see the (Updated) text. But I didn't when Lazi replied, and I didn't when I replied.
And I just replied to that thread again, and (Updated) is missing.
I just replied to Forum session login/timeouts as a test, and I don't see (Updated).
I can understand perhaps not seeing (Updated) when I view the thread index immediately after my own reply. But I can't understand NOT seeing it after a particular user (in this case, Laziboi) replies.
Anomalous, like I said. But sometimes that word can be erroneously used to describe a situation where one has yet to detect a pattern.
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7. Re: New Bug/Anomaly alert
Kath-H May 13, 2009 12:59 PM (in response to Phos±four dots)I didn't when I replied.
And I just replied to that thread again, and (Updated) is missing.
You won't - no-one sees 'Updated' if their own post is the most recent.
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8. Re: New Bug/Anomaly alert
greenjumpyone May 13, 2009 1:16 PM (in response to Kath-H)Kath-H wrote:
I didn't when I replied.
And I just replied to that thread again, and (Updated) is missing.
You won't - no-one sees 'Updated' if their own post is the most recent.
hmmmm, didn't pay any attention to that ...
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9. Re: New Bug/Anomaly alert
Kath-H May 13, 2009 1:19 PM (in response to greenjumpyone)I suppose the software doesn't use the 'Updated' marker because, well, it knows I've read the last post, I made it. Oh wait ... it KNOWS where I've just been ???
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10. Re: New Bug/Anomaly alert
Phos±four dots May 13, 2009 1:22 PM (in response to Kath-H)Kath-H wrote:
You won't - no-one sees 'Updated' if their own post is the most recent.
Sure...THAT part is understandable.
But what I don't get is why I'd see (Updated) after YOU reply, but I don't after Laziboi's reply?
Maybe HE'S the one who is "special?"
How come, when I hover over your avatar, or my avatar, and most others' I see a list of up to 5 recent posts, but when I hover over his I don't? I don't even see his participation in the Gandhi thread until I actually go to his profile page.
Something to do with participating via email?
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11. Re: New Bug/Anomaly alert
Kath-H May 13, 2009 1:24 PM (in response to Phos±four dots)Could be. Maybe email replies don't trigger 'updated'.
I'll try it, tell me if my next post shows the 'Updated' doo-dah - of course I won't know.
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12. Re: New Bug/Anomaly alert
Kath-H May 13, 2009 1:27 PM (in response to Kath-H)Now there's a thing! I replied to the 'Slow' thread via email - and I saw my own post trigger the 'Updated' text!
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14. Re: New Bug/Anomaly alert
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15. Re: New Bug/Anomaly alert
Mark A. Boyd May 13, 2009 4:33 PM (in response to Ramón G Castañeda)We're seeing our own time zones. Here's my copy/paste of that message #5.
Re: Gandhi quote for employees of any entity—and forum hosts
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16. Re: New Bug/Anomaly alert
Ramón G Castañeda May 13, 2009 9:35 PM (in response to Mark A. Boyd)Thank you, Mark.
This is an unholy mess! How are we supposed to keep track of all of this? (That's a rhetorical question that does not call for an answer.)
Even accounting for the three hours difference, Phos± is quoting a message five minutes into the future. That's nuts.
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17. Re: New Bug/Anomaly alert
dave milbut May 14, 2009 5:15 AM (in response to Ramón G Castañeda)Ramón G Castañeda wrote:
Even accounting for the three hours difference, Phos± is quoting a message five minutes into the future. That's nuts.
WITH A FEW SMALL MODIFICATIONS, ANY CANOE CAN TRAVEL THROUGH TIME!!!
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18. Re: New Bug/Anomaly alert
kanguyen May 14, 2009 8:31 AM (in response to Phos±four dots)I myself was not clear on how the (Updated) flag worked, so I asked Jive support about how it works, and here's what they said:
The (Updated) flag is part of Read Tracking within the application. When read tracking is enabled the (Updated) flag will display whenever there is a new message in a discussion that you've viewed before.
There are three states that each thread or message can be in:
* UNREAD - the object has never been read. In a skin, a "new" icon should be used for objects in this state
* UPDATED - the object has been read previously, but there have since been updates. In a skin, an "updated" icon should be used for objects in this state.
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19. Re: New Bug/Anomaly alert
Kath-H May 14, 2009 8:44 AM (in response to kanguyen)But ... there is no 'new' icon.
Also, I have noticed that I do not see 'Updated' if the latest reply is my own - which is logical - but I DO see that if I replied by email.
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20. Re: New Bug/Anomaly alert
kanguyen May 14, 2009 8:48 AM (in response to Kath-H)I believe the "New" indicator is with bold text, with un-bold being the "unread" state. And my understanding is the read/unread tracking is all web-based, which is why you would see "Updated' if you replied by email.
Hope that helps.
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21. Re: New Bug/Anomaly alert
Kath-H May 14, 2009 9:01 AM (in response to kanguyen)OK thanks, I was reading too much into 'icon'.
If the email system gets properly sorted though, and as many people use it as used NNTP, the read/unread status could get a bit confusing.
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22. Re: New Bug/Anomaly alert
Harbs. May 14, 2009 12:11 PM (in response to Kath-H)On the old webx forums, threads were always unread unless viewed in
the web interface as well.
This is nothing new...
Harbs
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23. Re: New Bug/Anomaly alert
Kath-H May 14, 2009 1:57 PM (in response to Harbs.)It's new for me, as I only ever used the web interface. If a lot of posts start coming in by email and *not* showing as updated, that would be confusing. Ex-NNTP people probably won't notice the difference.











