13 Replies Latest reply: May 24, 2009 2:12 PM by John Joslin RSS

    Any hope of NNTP anytime soon?

    tweaked_eye Community Member

      Because this interface is unacceptable.......I left the high school prom years ago and refuse to go back.

        • 1. Re: Any hope of NNTP anytime soon?
          S.D.A. Community Member

          The "powers that be" are supposed to be tweaking the e-mail config 2day so that might be an option for you. Providing that they get the threading sorted. I'd like NNTP to but it's a dying protocol unfortunately.

          • 2. Re: Any hope of NNTP anytime soon?
            JayJhabrix Community Member

            tweaked_eye wrote:

             

            Because this interface is unacceptable.......I left the high school prom years ago and refuse to go back.

            I'll only answer your question if:

             

            1/ You're giving out points

            2/ You give me some points

             

            <sulk>Major sulk. Doubly so 'cos there's no emoticon for sulk </sulk>

             

            Actually, i doubt it very much. As SDA said, they're trying to use the email option as a substitute. But that's a far cry from NNTP. However, i believe that the software they're using – Jive ACE (A$$) – does support NNTP. This has to be confirmed and, if it does support NNTP, why Adobe is not using it. One reason, i believe is that the NNTP doen't work with the points and correct answer anal effluent (or ejaculate), system that they (or some bright bean counters) seem to have a fascination for.

             

            Hopefully, JC or Kanguyen will be along to clarify why. However, in a case like this, they'll probably not be ble to give the correct answer – if they answer at all – for obvious reasons.

             

            JJ

            • 3. Re: Any hope of NNTP anytime soon?
              Zeno Bokor CommunityMVP

              points don't work through email but they still implemented it so i doubt that that's the reason

              • 4. Re: Any hope of NNTP anytime soon?
                Kath-H Community Member

                How come? If you post a reply the OP likes, by email, you'll still get points won't you?

                • 5. Re: Any hope of NNTP anytime soon?
                  Zeno Bokor CommunityMVP

                  well, apparently you can't make threads marked as a question from email and you can't give points from email

                  • 6. Re: Any hope of NNTP anytime soon?
                    Kath-H Community Member

                    Oh right, so you can get them but not give them. Should be able to post a question though. I assume you can start a thread?

                    • 7. Re: Any hope of NNTP anytime soon?
                      Zeno Bokor CommunityMVP

                      me? never tried, i'm not into email but yes, you can make threads using email

                      • 8. Re: Any hope of NNTP anytime soon?
                        Harbs. CommunityMVP

                        It's already been stated that the reason we don't currently have NNTP, 

                        is not because Jive doesn't support it, but rather the single login 

                        for all of Adobe makes NNTP much more difficult to set up. This 

                        together with the fact that Adobe didn't realize how important it was 

                        to us added up to the fact that we don't have it.

                         

                        Jochem pointed to a post indicating that our (very loud) protests have 

                        been heard, and they are looking into how they can make NNTP a 

                        possibility. The only thing we can do now is to sit tight with our 

                        fingers crossed. (and maybe write some letters to Adobe 

                        headquarters...)

                         

                        Harbs

                        • 9. Re: Any hope of NNTP anytime soon?
                          JayJhabrix Community Member

                          Harbs. wrote:

                           

                          It's already been stated that the reason we don't currently have NNTP, 

                          is not because Jive doesn't support it, but rather the single login 

                          for all of Adobe makes NNTP much more difficult to set up.

                          That i think was the most assinine idea anyone ever came up with. I see no reason for not having separate log ins for store and forums / downloads. In fact, i can't think of one good reason to combine the two.

                           

                          If i were a user of the Adobe store, i would definitely prefer to have a separate login and password for that area. I think most people would. I see a lot of aliases in the forums. In the store, you'd want to use your real name for tax and audit purposes. Moreover, what's to stop people creating two identities anyway? So, the whole purpose of a common id is meaningless.

                           

                          Am sure, that even at this stage, it wouldn't be too difficult to separate the two. For instance, whenever i open the forums i see a welcome at the top of the screen. Right above 'Home'. Yet, i still have to login to the forums... what gives? Idiotic.

                          • 10. Re: Any hope of NNTP anytime soon?
                            Harbs. CommunityMVP

                            I myself do not have a clear opinion on whether the single login is a good idea or bad, and I really don't have the interest in investing the brain power to develop one.

                             

                            However, it's more than just the Adobe store. It's linked to product registrations, Partner accounts, etc. There very well might be valid reasons for connecting the two...

                             

                            Harbs

                            • 11. Re: Any hope of NNTP anytime soon?
                              Chris Cox Adobe Employee

                              ... like maybe if there are other things planned that tied into other services and need the Adobe ID?

                              • 12. Re: Any hope of NNTP anytime soon?
                                Harbs. CommunityMVP

                                Chris Cox wrote:

                                 

                                ... like maybe if there are other things planned that tied into other services and need the Adobe ID?

                                Yeah. Maybe something like that...

                                • 13. Re: Any hope of NNTP anytime soon?
                                  John Joslin Community Member

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