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1. Re: Is it possible to do multiple recordings with the same session.
SteveG(AudioMasters) Jul 19, 2009 4:21 AM (in response to Blue_Devil1)Blue_Devil1 wrote:
I appologize in advance for this but here goes. I want to make several background narrations for some video clips. Using Audition 3, I start out by recording in the multitrack view on the top track. Because of mistakes, this takes several audio clips. After finishing, I rightclick on one of the clips, select bounce to new track all audio tracks and this creates a mixdown.
Let me stop you right there, for a start, because what you are doing still isn't clear, although I think that I can guess at it...
Creating a bounce-down is not the same thing as creating a mixdown. If each of these clips you've recorded constitutes a separate file, which it will if you hit the stop button rather than pause - which it sounds as though you have, otherwise you wouldn't be able to separate them so easily - then just double-clicking on the clip will open it immediately in Edit View anyway. And the bounce-down options don't mention tracks, they mention clips - all audio in session, selected range or selected clips. Yes you get one file as a result - but it's literally just the clips as they stand run together not via the mixer, any effects or automation system - which it would have to be if it were a proper mixdown. A bouhce is exactly what it says - just bouncing the clips.
THen I select the clips in the top track and mixdown in the next track and hit delete. However, when I hit the arming 'R" and then the record button, the cursor doesn't move more than a milimeter and then keeps going back and forth.
I was trying to do multiple narrations with just this one session, so is that possible? Do I have to do a separate session for each separate mixdown?
Hmm... when I hit the delete key, nothing happens - I have to right-click to get stuff to delete like that. But you most certainly can re-record in a session, yes. If you get the cursor moving just a fraction of a mm, then almost certainly this means that instead of moving the cursor back to the start, you've moved it slightly with the mouse pressed and created a very small range.So before you record, hit the 'Go to Beginning or Previous Marker' key (next to the play looped key) and try again - it should work properly then.
And of course you haven't deleted all the files - they are still there on your system and will remain so unless you delete them outside Audition, either the hard way, or using MediaSweeper.
Your workflow is, to say the least, a little strange. If I were recording narrations (which I do sometimes), I'd record in Edit View, and keep just the files or takes I wanted. Then I'd import these into Multitrack view, arrange them, crossfade them, whatever, and then do a mixdown of the result, which would appear back in Edit View for final trimming and saving, and I'd have a file (or files) to use in the final production. This would have the advantage of not creating all these 'take' files that you have to get rid of separately in the first place, and generally keep the workflow down to a sensible number of steps.
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2. Re: Is it possible to do multiple recordings with the same session.
Blue_Devil1 Jul 19, 2009 1:37 PM (in response to SteveG(AudioMasters))Thanks a lot for your help, Steve.
I used to use the Edit view to record a dictation from a minicd recorder, but I had trouble making the cursor stop where I wanted it if I had to delete something (I finally wound up putting in a marker with F8 and then moving the cursor to the marker with CNTL left or right arrow key). That's why I went to the multitrack, since I could move the cursor around easier to where I wanted it.
However, at your suggestion, I tried the edit view again for direct dictation. I went to File -New and then click the record button and start to dictate. When I make a mistake, I click Stop. Then I hit End and this puts the cursor just beyond where I stopped. Then I can just move the cursor back to where I want to start over and hit Record again and re-dictate . When I'm done, I just get rid of the background noise, and then Save-AS and I have my dictation saved as a .wav file.
This avoids saving the various clips I would have used with the multitrack technique, and if I want to do several narrations, can just go to File-New for each of them. This way, I don't have to even save the session.
Is this what you had in mind? Any other thoughts with the work-flow?
Thanks again,
John Rich
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3. Re: Is it possible to do multiple recordings with the same session.
SteveG(AudioMasters) Jul 19, 2009 5:13 PM (in response to Blue_Devil1)Blue_Devil1 wrote:
However, at your suggestion, I tried the edit view again for direct dictation. I went to File -New and then click the record button and start to dictate. When I make a mistake, I click Stop. Then I hit End and this puts the cursor just beyond where I stopped. Then I can just move the cursor back to where I want to start over and hit Record again and re-dictate . When I'm done, I just get rid of the background noise, and then Save-AS and I have my dictation saved as a .wav file. This avoids saving the various clips I would have used with the multitrack technique, and if I want to do several narrations, can just go to File-New for each of them. This way, I don't have to even save the session.
Is this what you had in mind? Any other thoughts with the work-flow?
Not quite - although as long as you are happy with the results, it's better than your previous version - simply because it doesn't involve creating a load more files than you need.
You can either save individual files per take, or, if you are happy with one big file you could select the ranges that you want and batch process them into individual files. What I was proposing is that once you have these individual files, you can arrange them in MV and then do a maxdown of the results. This would mean that you could do the trimming and crossfading non-destructively, so that if you changed your mind you would always have the batched-out files to go back to.
Ever since its inception, this software has been 'deep' from the point of view of workflow - almost all tasks can be carried out in more than one way, and there's no definitively correct method for anything, really. But it's been pretty clear from the outset that being able to assemble pre-recorded files in MV and mix them down to a finished file has been a fundamental intention, and there is a lot of flexibility in this method.
Generally it's easier to make accurate selections if you zoom in further - and yes, use F8 to mark them so that you can find them again. It's also worth making sure that the snapping settings aren't set to something you don't want - that can also make accurate selection either much harder, or downright impossible.
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4. Re: Is it possible to do multiple recordings with the same session.
Blue_Devil1 Jul 19, 2009 6:37 PM (in response to SteveG(AudioMasters))Thanks.
I appreciate the help. I've always got good advice here, the couple of times I asked. Thanks for the tip about AudioMasters.
The only thing I wish is that Adobe would include in their Help files, and the tutorial guys would include, is exactly how to move and use the cursor, but they always assume we know how to use it.
Thanks again,
John


