6 Replies Latest reply: Sep 1, 2009 9:29 AM by Arrow'd RSS

    Preflight "error" problem

    Arrow'd Community Member

      I set up my own preflight profile for use with the CS4 live preflight panel.

      Now I'm designing a package and I place a logo designed in Illustrator—No problem.

      However, when I rotate the logo (it goes on the side panel of a package and needs to be rotated 90 degrees) it becomes an error.

      The report claims the logo is now at 95dpi, well below our production threshold.

       

      I've tried rotating the graphic independent of the frame with no change in the error.

      If I rotate the graphic back to its original orientation the error disappears.

       

      Has anyone else seen this and if so what can I do to fix it?

      I'd rather not have to tell everyone in the department to ignore errors on rotated graphics since it defeats the purpose of the preflight panel altogether.

       

      Any suggestions?

        • 1. Re: Preflight "error" problem
          P Spier CommunityMVP

          Arrow'd wrote:

           

          I set up my own preflight profile for use with the CS4 live preflight panel.

          Now I'm designing a package and I place a logo designed in Illustrator—No problem.

          However, when I rotate the logo (it goes on the side panel of a package and needs to be rotated 90 degrees) it becomes an error.

          The report claims the logo is now at 95dpi, well below our production threshold.

           

          I've tried rotating the graphic independent of the frame with no change in the error.

          If I rotate the graphic back to its original orientation the error disappears.

           

          Has anyone else seen this and if so what can I do to fix it?

          I'd rather not have to tell everyone in the department to ignore errors on rotated graphics since it defeats the purpose of the preflight panel altogether.

           

          Any suggestions?

          This is a vector logo, right? That shouldn't have any resolution at all. Sounds like you've found a bug. Adobe - Feature Request/Bug Report Form

          • 2. Re: Preflight "error" problem
            Arrow'd Community Member

            In all fairness, the bulk of the graphic is vector. Though there is an embedded Photoshop eps used as a texture.

            My assumption is that InDesign looks at the dimensions when it comes in and if it gets rotated suddenly those dimensions don't match the expected pixel count without regard to the fact the logo had its orientation altered.

             

            I shall pursue the bug report though, thanks.

            • 3. Re: Preflight "error" problem
              Arrow'd Community Member

              After taxing my abysmal mathematical skills, here's what I've discovered:

              InDesign does indeed take the size of a given graphic and use that as a basis for figuring resolution.

               

              Let's say I have a logo that is 5cm wide by 1.5cm high, I rotate that logo 90 degrees and now InDesign is looking at the logo as 5cm high and 1.5cm wide. To assess the resolution it must be mathematically "stretching" the 1.5cm to fit the 5cm width then reinterpreting the resolution.

               

              If my logo is 300dpi, after rotating and "stretching" by InDesign the resolution is now 90dpi which shows up as an error in a profile that flags anything below 250dpi.

               

              So apparently you are safe if your imported graphics are close to a 1-1 aspect ratio.

              • 4. Re: Preflight "error" problem
                P Spier CommunityMVP

                I'd still report the bug, I think, unless you actually changed the scaling. ID should be looking at rotated rasters as they are rotated. I can't make this happen, for example with a placed .psd. I don't have a file handy with an embedded eps raster to check, but my feeling is it shouldn't be happening.

                 

                Does it make a difference if you cahnge the .eps to .psd and embed that instead?

                • 5. Re: Preflight "error" problem
                  Arrow'd Community Member

                  I submitted a bug report yesterday.

                   

                  Perhaps embedding a psd would work, does Illustrator support placed psd's (I'm a Freehand guy myself)?

                   

                  I'll try swapping the eps with a psd Monday morning and get back to you.

                   

                  Thanks for your input.

                  • 6. Re: Preflight "error" problem
                    Arrow'd Community Member

                    For those who are playing along at home:

                    Apparently this is a bug that is yet to be resolved.

                    I've changed the file format of the embedded texture to TIFF, and PSD, to no avail.

                    Apparently there is something in the embedding process that somehow hides the resolution information from InDesign.

                     

                    The result; an embedded Photoshop graphic used in an Illustrator graphic will be flagged as an error if the graphic is rotated in InDesign.

                     

                    I've also tried exporting the graphic out of Illustrator as a PDF, again to no avail.

                     

                    Good luck out there folks.