29 Replies Latest reply: Sep 8, 2009 4:32 PM by the_wine_snob RSS

    Effects on titles

    pebalsamo Community Member
      For some reason any effect I put on a title is not working... It just rolls through the effect and then jump cuts to the title. Even with just a dissolve. Anyone else having this problem??? They work when they are un-rendered but as soon as you render them to no longer work.

      Phil
        • 1. Re: Effects on titles
          J. Simon Community Member
          I would have expected the opposite, suggesting your hardware just wasn't up to spec. Not sure what might cause this.
          • 2. Re: Effects on titles
            pebalsamo Community Member
            Just FYI

            XP Pro (64 Bit)
            Intel Quad Core 2.5 GHz
            4 GB of RAM
            1.5 TB video Drive
            500 GB OS Drive

            I just worked around it with the Opacity settings just to get a fade in and out which is perfectly fine for this particular project, but I do not want to have to do that all the time...

            Phil
            • 3. Re: Effects on titles
              Ann Bens ACP/MVPs
              When using the cross dissolve just add a keyframe to the opacity of the title, no need to tweek. That might do the trick.
              • 4. Re: Effects on titles
                pebalsamo Community Member
                Thanks Ann, I just saw that Tip in another thread about adding cross dissolve to pics. I REALLY hope that Adobe fixes this bug. I do not want to have to do that to all Photos and Titles...

                Thanks
                Phil
                • 5. Re: Effects on titles
                  Eddie Lotter Community Member
                  >XP Pro (64 Bit)

                  It's worth mentioning that Adobe does not support XP x64. You may well run into other problems because of that operating system.


                  Cheers
                  Eddie

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                  • 6. Re: Effects on titles
                    pebalsamo Community Member
                    Well isnt that just flippen fantastic...

                    Phil
                    • 7. Re: Effects on titles
                      the_wine_snob Community Member
                      Phil,

                      In this case, I think you have a workaround, thanks to Ann. BTW, it's Transitions, and not Effects, that you are talking about. Still, you got it to work. Let's hope that the upcoming 4.1 update does address this issue.

                      As for XP-64, well that was really a beta. MS "killed" it, by rolling it into Vista 64, with modifications from the beta-release testing.

                      Some people seem to get it to work with PrP, but others do not. Because it is a deadend OS, I think that you'll see support for Vista-64 (and now Win7-64), but never directly for XP-64. Hope that you are one of the lucky ones, and will have everything work fine, until you upgrade to whatever the then current release of MS's 64-bit OS is.

                      If you do encounter problems, there have been many threads on the XP-64 OS with PrP. A search *might* yield some useful answers. Here's hoping that you have no OS-related issues.

                      Hunt
                      • 8. Re: Effects on titles
                        pebalsamo Community Member
                        Thanks Bill,

                        Yeah I know Transitions and not effects. I caught myself on another thread that was talking about the same problem but with pics. I realized then that I said "Effects" here and it should have been Transitions.

                        So far (about 3 weeks) I have been using PP cs4 on this system without any problems. Aside from the normal quirkyness at first and when I initially installed CS4 I still had CS3 on my machine and then removed CS3 and that was causing me some problems. I did a fresh install and everything has been working great. I hope it continues to work well too, because I just purchased a second computer just like the other one to run PP CS4 on it as well. I wish I would have came across this a week ago and I would have ordered it with Vista 64 instead....

                        Thanks again for all the help.
                        Phil
                        • 9. Re: Effects on titles
                          the_wine_snob Community Member
                          Phil,

                          Good luck with the OS. Keep watching the forum, as XP-64 questions come up with regularity. Maybe you can help someone else running PrP on it.

                          Hunt
                          • 10. Re: Effects on titles
                            John Novotny Community Member

                            It's not just xp 64 issue, i'm having the same problem in Vista 64 Ultimate no matter what I try.

                             

                            I tried cross disolve and dip to black refuses to render. This is garbage not being able to add a disolve to a title.

                             

                            I have PP CS 4 running on a quad core xeon, 12 GB ram.

                            • 11. Re: Effects on titles
                              John Novotny Community Member

                              I did try adding a key frame to both the opacity and motion settings and got "f" all in return! I downloaded a patch 2 weeks ago, you think they would have had it fix by then. You pay big money for a NLE software package only to find it can't do dissolves on titles?!

                              • 12. Re: Effects on titles
                                Jeff Bellune ACP

                                I can do dissolves on titles just fine here in Vista 64.  I can also add Motion and Opacity keyframes to a title and have them work exactly as expected.

                                 

                                I offer that information so that you know the software is capable of doing it, and so that you know you can work your way out of this if we can figure out what you're doing wrong.

                                 

                                Please outline your exact procedure, starting with the creation of the title, and including some screenshots along the way.

                                 

                                -Jeff

                                • 13. Re: Effects on titles
                                  J. Simon Community Member

                                  I might actually start by listing your exact Premiere version to make sure all is up to date.

                                  • 14. Re: Effects on titles
                                    John Novotny Community Member

                                    Thanks Jeff, it's good to know it works, I'll give you some details first and then you can tell if you need me to get you any screens.

                                     

                                    Well to give you a quick run down. I drag and drop transitions over my desired location and this has worked for every transition in my sequence, except the title. I've tried adding black video over top of the title and fading it in, nope doesn't work. The funny thing is it plays back fine in the program window, but refuses to render like all the other effects in my sequence and of course doesn't export. In the case of adding a key frame it goes through the motions of rendering but I end up with the red line of death still appearing above the effect in my title. 

                                     

                                     

                                    I have a new Dell t3500 workstation with quad xeon, quadro nvideo video card and 3 hdd's with captured video and audio on one, previews write to another, and applications on the main drive.

                                    • 15. Re: Effects on titles
                                      J. Simon Community Member

                                      ...start by listing your exact Premiere version...

                                      • 16. Re: Effects on titles
                                        John Novotny Community Member

                                        I did mention that I'm running PP CS4. But no worries I don't mind mentioning it again.

                                        • 17. Re: Effects on titles
                                          J. Simon Community Member

                                          But which version of CS4?  There are three.  (That's kind of what the 'exact' was hinting at.)

                                          • 18. Re: Effects on titles
                                            John Novotny Community Member

                                            Sorry Jeff, I forgot to mention, that when I created the title. I clicked "File/New/Title" from the top menu and then typed my text and closed the title window. Then moved the title into the timeline from the Project window by draging it into the timeline with my mouse. Perhaps I missed a step, I am new to CS4, last version I worked with was CS2 a few years ago. Thanks again. Let me know if you still want screen caps. 

                                            • 19. Re: Effects on titles
                                              J. Simon Community Member

                                              ...start by listing your exact Premiere version...

                                              • 20. Re: Effects on titles
                                                John Novotny Community Member

                                                Gotcha, I believe it's 4.1.0. Is that what you're looking for?

                                                • 21. Re: Effects on titles
                                                  J. Simon Community Member

                                                  Yup.  Thanks.

                                                   

                                                  Check that, though.  Go to Help>About and be certian, because your issues sounds exactly like a problem that was fixed with the 4.1 update.

                                                  • 22. Re: Effects on titles
                                                    Jeff Bellune ACP

                                                    Jim is right.  4.0.0, and maybe 4.0.1 had a bug that behaved exactly as you describe.  4.1.0 fixed the issue.

                                                     

                                                    -Jeff

                                                    • 23. Re: Effects on titles
                                                      John Novotny Community Member

                                                      When I go to Help/About Adobe Premiere Pro, it says Version 4.1.0. So it seems I'm SOL.

                                                       

                                                      I've had Adobe issues with Dell before, but I'm not sure who to blame; Vista, Adobe or Dell, I may kill them all and let God sort them out.

                                                      • 24. Re: Effects on titles
                                                        John Novotny Community Member

                                                        or maybe I'll try a reinstall first...

                                                        • 25. Re: Effects on titles
                                                          John Novotny Community Member

                                                          The weird thing is I edited a video before applying an update and I was able to fade a title with ease. Strange.

                                                          • 26. Re: Effects on titles
                                                            J. Simon Community Member

                                                            Sounds like you're living in Bizarro world there, John.  For everyone else, this problems existed before the 4.1 update, not after.

                                                             

                                                            At this point, I'd say test out a new title in a new project.  Maybe something in this one got corrupted.

                                                            • 27. Re: Effects on titles
                                                              John Novotny Community Member

                                                              Good idea, if it doesn't work, I'll have to try a reinstall.

                                                              • 28. Re: Effects on titles
                                                                John Novotny Community Member

                                                                OK my titles are working properly now!! It must have been a corupt file or I somehow did something to it.

                                                                • 29. Re: Effects on titles
                                                                  the_wine_snob Community Member

                                                                  John,

                                                                   

                                                                  Glad that you got it sorted. In years, I have had no issues with Titles in PrPro and do a lot of animation on them - some that might be better done in AE, but I get lazy and just keep working on them in PrPro.

                                                                   

                                                                  Good luck,

                                                                   

                                                                  Hunt