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RH 7: Share topics across multiple RH files?

Guest
Oct 12, 2009 Oct 12, 2009

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I'm working on an application with over a dozen separate modules.  Each of those modules has its own RoboHelp file, but there are 6 or 7 introductory topics that we really need to share across all of the modules.

Currently, we're copying and pasting those pages individually into each file/module.  As you can imagine, when we need to update one of those introductory topics it's a real pain cascading those changes through all 12+ files.

Is there any way that we can store those files in a central location but share them within all the other files so that they appear as the first topics in each file's table of contents?  (As in the picture below--the Getting Started topics would be the shared topics, but they would appear to be an organic part of any given module's Help TOC.)

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Thanks so much!

(PS, if the solution is "Buy RH 8, that would be good to know, too.)

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LEGEND ,
Oct 12, 2009 Oct 12, 2009

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Hi there

This would seem to cry out for creating a merged setup. In a Merged setup you have one project that is the "control" or the "master". Then you have the subordinate projects that are added. So each of the individual projects could be made a master, then you would merge in the smaller project with the common files.

You create a Merge by inserting a reference within the Table of Contents. And there is no need to acquire 8 to do it. You have been able to create Merged projects for several RoboHelp versions now.

Cheers... Rick

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Oct 13, 2009 Oct 13, 2009

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Click here for Peter Grainge's excellent tutorial on merged WebHelp (complete with sample projects you can download for testing).

Good luck,

Leon

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Oct 13, 2009 Oct 13, 2009

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Thanks for the link, Leon--as a relatively new user, I'm particularly glad learn about good RH tutorials!

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Oct 13, 2009 Oct 13, 2009

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Terrific!  Thanks Rick--I'll give it a try!

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My fellow TWs & I started playing with merging this morning, per your recommendation.  It is definitely better than the present arrangement (making the same updates to the intro for all umpteen modules by hand), but it still requires a regenerate for all modules every time there is a single change to the intro.  This is particularly awkward because we don't self-publish; all updates have to go through development, testing, and IV&V.  That's a lot of person-hours to put in just because someone's contact info needed to be updated, for example.

But based on some of the info in the link Leon sent us, it seems like it might be possible to create dummy pages in each of our modules, all of which invidibly re-direct to independent overview pages that would be maintained in a separate folder.  We haven't had time to really tear into this possibility, and I think it may require our developers' help, but I thought I'd post here in case anyone knows of a simple way to do this or of any dreadful pitfalls to avoid.

Thanks so much--this has been very helpful for us so far!

--Melanie

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Oct 13, 2009 Oct 13, 2009

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Hi Melanie

Unless you are doing something dreadfully wrong, there should be no need to regenerate to see changes. This is because the content of the merged file is inserted at the time the help system loads up.

It would be helpful if you could explain what your output is. CHM, WebHelp, FlashHelp?

Cheers... Rick

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Oct 15, 2009 Oct 15, 2009

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Hi Rick--

The output is WebHelp. We generate each module and then send the generated files to the developers to integrate into the application and build.

The problem (if I understand the process correctly) is that we'd be merging the same set of topics--the overview--with a bunch of different modules.  So duplicates of the overview files are stored within each module and the TOC points to those internal duplicates.  So to make edits to the overview topics, the topics have to be edited and then re-merged with each module, generated, and sent to the developers.

For the moment, our sloppy workaround is to create a dummy topic for each overview topic that automatically redirects to the overview content, which is published separately.

To redirect, we put this code in the head, where the amazon.com url is replaced with the url of the destination page.

 <script language="javascript" type="text/javascript">
     <!--
     window.location="http://www.amazon.com";
     // -->
</script>

If have any further suggestions, we'd be happy to hear them--thanks so much for your help!

--Melanie

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Oct 15, 2009 Oct 15, 2009

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Hi again

What you are describing seems as though the application is locally installed? If so, why aren't you using .CHM format? Why WebHelp? With WebHelp, it's intended to be copied to a server and accessed that way.

Even with WebHelp, if you are installing locally I suspect there is an easier way to accomplish the merging than using the redirects as you are.

Ever curious... Rick

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