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1. Re: My i7-Core 975 for AVCHD editing
Curt Wrigley Dec 30, 2009 7:50 PM (in response to hbannister)I would suggest you consider: if you are that serious about building the perfect editing machine, you should consider buying an camera that records better quality video. Sometimes you dont have a choice if you are editing other people's stuff. But if this is for your own editing, I seriously consider a different camera format. AVCHD is tough to edit on the best system.
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2. Re: My i7-Core 975 for AVCHD editing
hbannister Dec 30, 2009 8:15 PM (in response to Curt Wrigley)I appreciate your comment. What would you suggest? I will have to do quite a bit of AVCHD editing, but if I had influence over the type of HD footage to bring in, what would you suggest? I do feel AVCHD is here to stay for a good bit and it's quality is amazing for the price. A small camera is a necessity for some of my clients, but I am extremely interested in other formats.
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3. Re: My i7-Core 975 for AVCHD editing
Curt Wrigley Dec 30, 2009 10:35 PM (in response to hbannister)It depends on your budget. Good tapeless format cams start at $5K and up. If your budget is less than that and have to be tapeless, you are stuck with AVCHD. Im just setting your expectations; dont expect to to edit smoothly; at least with today's hw and sw; without converting it to another format.
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4. Re: My i7-Core 975 for AVCHD editing
Harm Millaard Dec 31, 2009 12:38 AM (in response to hbannister)With these results you have the best non-OC results in the PPBM4 benchmarkt test, even better than two W55xx systems. Great work!!
With current hardware you could not have done better, so while Curt's remarks are valid, you cannot significantly improve on that with the current crop of components, I don't know how AVCHD would edit on your system for the simple reason I have never used it so I have no comparison. As to what camera would be a good match with your hardware, I personally like the Sony XDCAM-EX3 very much because of it's handling and superior image quality and ease of editing. Semi-shoulder cameras have the advantage of handling like a shoulder camera and the portability/weight of a hand-held. Add to that the 1/2" sensors for high sensitivity in low light, exchangeable lenses and nice DOF and it makes it a very nice package for a reasonable price.
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5. Re: My i7-Core 975 for AVCHD editing
hbannister Dec 31, 2009 1:19 PM (in response to Harm Millaard)Thanks Harm! As I said before, you should see a huge reflection of your articles in this system. I can't wait to OC it and the 2 920's. I can't thank you enough. I encourage everyone to have a look at those articles BEFORE buying, or hopefully, building a system.
As for editing AVCHD on this system... so far so good. In fact, leaps and bounds above anything I have ever worked on before. I was pleasantly surprised with the playback in PP. Smooth and pretty (so far). I have NOT done a large project yet (large for me is a total length of 30 mins or thereabouts).... but I am bullish. I will report back as I delve in to using more filters and more edits etc...
As for the camera, I have just looked in to the EX3 that you suggested and it looks GREAT! As we upgrade our equipment I may look in to something like that. We have some unique needs with our cameras and size is a very relevant issue. I surely appreciate the recommendation and it looks like a beautiful piece of gear and under $10k... cool.
On an aside, I am so pleased with the Areca Raid Controller. What a fantastic piece of gear. It is easy to setup and the tech support top notch. I had a weird issue where windows would not recognize the raid drive controlled by the Areca, when I had the OS drive configured in raid 1 on mobo's controller... anyway, Areca tech support helped me figure it out quickly... and all systems go.
Curt, thanks for your input as well!
Horatio
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6. Re: My i7-Core 975 for AVCHD editing
Bill Gehrke Jan 1, 2010 5:35 PM (in response to hbannister)If the 45.4 seconds for your non-overclocked score on my PPBM4 is correct you have passed up the dual Xeon W5590 3.33 GHz unit score of 46.6 seconds. Look out Harm! Sounds like my Supercomputer MB that is slowly being assembled was a step in the right direction. Sure would like to see the output.txt file..
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7. Re: My i7-Core 975 for AVCHD editing
hbannister Jan 1, 2010 6:33 PM (in response to Bill Gehrke)I would be happy to post the file. I will do it on Monday when I am back at
work. Thanks for providing ppbm4. It is a great way to learn about and
assess gear for pp. As I keep saying, this forum is such a fantastic
resource. Thanks!... Oh, when do you update the ppbm4 benchmark results list?
Horatio
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8. Re: My i7-Core 975 for AVCHD editing
hbannister Jan 2, 2010 3:46 PM (in response to Bill Gehrke)These are the results from my first ppbm4 benchmark:
HB-i7core-975, Personal or Computer ID
ASUS, Computer Manufacturer
P6T7 WS SuperComputer, Computer Model
45.4, secs Total Benchmark Time
5.2, secs AVI Encoding Time
28.2, secs MPEG Elapsed Time
12, secs Rendering Time
Intel, CPU Manufacturer
I7 Core 975, CPU Model
3.33, GHz CPU speed
1, Number of CPU chips
4, Total Number of Cores
12, GB RAM
4.2.1, APP Version PPBM4 DV
Win 7 64, OSVersion
SATA, OS Disk Interface
300, GB OS Disk Capacity
10,000, OS Disk Speed
SATA, Project Disk Interface
1.000 x 7 R3, GB Project Disk Capacity
7,200, Project Disk Speed
, Preview Disk Interface
, GB Preview Disk Capacity
, Preview Disk Speed
, Output Disk Interface
, GB Output Disk Capacity
, Output Disk Speed
GTX 295, Graphics Board
Areca ARC-1280ML, Comment
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9. Re: My i7-Core 975 for AVCHD editing
Harm Millaard Jan 2, 2010 4:58 PM (in response to hbannister)Horatio,
Did you also email the file to Bill? That way he can easily include your results.
Great results!!!
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10. Re: My i7-Core 975 for AVCHD editing
hbannister Jan 2, 2010 5:10 PM (in response to Harm Millaard)Harm,
I did send it to him. Thanks for all of the help and info!! I can't wait to OC it... this week as long as work isn't to crazy. This system is a tribute to your info and help available on the forum.
Horatio
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11. Re: My i7-Core 975 for AVCHD editing
hbannister Jan 2, 2010 6:57 PM (in response to hbannister)Very cool!! If this is not a testament to the power and knowledge of this forum, I don't know what is. Fastest non-OC'd system (for now of course ) and top 4 overall, from all of the knowledge here. Thanks Harm for all of the incite and help & thanks Bill for your suggestions. I am going to implement some of your suggestions and see if I can get the AVI score up.
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12. Re: My i7-Core 975 for AVCHD editing
blkdrgn18 Jan 5, 2010 2:07 PM (in response to hbannister)WOW, I have almost the same setup. Once my new parts come in I will post some results. I mostly deal with AVCHD files from my Canon HF11 camcorder.
Current system:
Windows 7 64bit
Premiere Pro CS4
i7 965
12GB memory
ASUS p6t mobo
Two 300GB Raptors (RAID1)
Two 1.5TB WD (RAID1)
LG BD Burner
APC 1500
Three 24" monitors
Two NVIDIA video cards (cant remember some very cheap crappy ones)
New system when parts come in:
Windows 7 64bit
Premiere Pro CS4
i7 965 (OC)
12GB memory
ASUS p6t mobo
Two 120 OCZ SSD (RAID0)
Five 2TB WD (RAID10)
Areca 1231ML RAID Controller
LG BD Burner
Samsung DVD Burner
APC 1500
(still debating on video card, GTX 285 or FX 4800)
Two 30" Dell 3008 Monitors
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13. Re: My i7-Core 975 for AVCHD editing
Harm Millaard Jan 5, 2010 2:54 PM (in response to blkdrgn18)function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}
Five 2TB WD (RAID10)
For a raid10 you need an even number of disks, so either 4 or 6, not 5. -
14. Re: My i7-Core 975 for AVCHD editing
blkdrgn18 Jan 5, 2010 3:00 PM (in response to Harm Millaard)Your correct, my typo. i meant 6
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15. Re: My i7-Core 975 for AVCHD editing
Bill Gehrke Jan 5, 2010 3:41 PM (in response to blkdrgn18)Since you have two graphics cards, my suggestion is use one in your new configuration as neither of the cards you are looking at will help with CS4, then when CS5 is delivered make you choice at that time for a high end CUDA enabled card.







