12 Replies Latest reply: Feb 15, 2011 2:51 AM by dfranzen_adobe RSS

    I can´t extract all raws from dng

    RicardoAT

      A year ago I started converter my ARW (sony raw) and after my NEF (nikon RAW) files to DNG with embedded raw, now Iwant to edit the dng in DxO pro 5 and it dosen´t read it, I try to get theoriginal raw and I only recovered as 60 percent of the original raws, thishappened to me in several batches of pictures and in different mac computers, I update the DNG converter 5.4 and is the same. Can sombody help me?

        • 1. Re: I can´t extract all raws from dng
          Panoholic Community Member

          Have you embedded the native raw in the DNG and now want to extract it but you can not? Is this the only copy of the DNG, don't you have backup? Have not you saved the native raw file on its own?

           

           

          Gabor

          • 2. Re: I can´t extract all raws from dng
            RicardoAT

            Yes, I embedded the native raw in the DNG and now want to extract it but I can´t and is the only copy of the images that I have, I can read it in Photoshop but not in Dxo. is there any way to extract the native raw or Is there any option that the DXO program could read my DNG files?

             

            Thanks

            • 3. Re: I can´t extract all raws from dng
              Panoholic Community Member

              Embedding the native raw file in the DNG is plain nonsense; I don't understand, why Adobe is offering this option at all. If you want to have access to the original, you should archive it on its own (you should do that always).

               

              Anyway, the DNG converter has an option "Extract"; use that.

               

              Gabor

              • 4. Re: I can´t extract all raws from dng
                RicardoAT

                DNG or NEF works diferent I dont know how, thats why DXO dosen´t opened the DNG.

                I tried the "extract" option in DNG converter but it didn´t give me all my NEFs original, just like 60 porcent

                • 5. Re: I can´t extract all raws from dng
                  Panoholic Community Member

                  Can you upload one of the DNGs, from which you can not extract the native raw? Use yousendit.com if you don't have web space; send it to any fictional email address and post here the URL for the downloading.

                   

                  Gabor

                  • 7. Re: I can´t extract all raws from dng
                    Panoholic Community Member

                    The file structure shows the embedded native raw file, but the DNG Converter can not extract it (it says none is there). I tried it with six different versions of the DNG converter (the oldest from 2005), none has managed it.

                     

                    I noticed, that you have edited this file by LR/ACR or PS/ACR. What about the other DNGs, from which you can not extract the raw file? Have they too been edited? Or see it from the other side: have those been edited, from which you can extract the raws? I tested this and did not find any problem: I converted a raw file in DNG and embedded the raw; copied, and edited one of them. Afterwards I could extract the raw from both DNGs. Thus this does not appear to be a hot line.

                     

                    I don't have any other idea. However, I suggest you never to embed the raw files in the DNG but to save/archive them on their own.

                     

                    Sorry for the trouble.

                     

                    Gabor

                    • 8. Re: I can´t extract all raws from dng
                      RicardoAT

                      Gabor

                       

                      There is no relation betwen images edited in PS or not to be open.

                      In the other part of my original post, do you know how can I edit my DNG on DXO? because I can´t. DXO don´t see my DNG but it see the NEF, thats why I want to recover my original NEF.

                      Thank you, for the answers and you're right, I won´t embeded again,

                      • 9. Re: I can´t extract all raws from dng
                        Panoholic Community Member
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                        RicardoAT wrote:

                         

                        do you know how can I edit my DNG on DXO? because I can´t. DXO don´t see my DNG but it see the NEF, thats why I want to recover my original NEF


                        I'm sorry but I can not help you, for I have never done anything with DxO. However, I find it very strange, that DxO "does not see" the DNG, but it is able to extract the NEF from it. The native raw file is not copied into the DNG but encoded (ZIP compressed in 64 KB pieces). Thus it can not be used without knowing the structure of the envelop, namely DNG.

                         

                        However, if you think that DxO does not see the DNG because it does not honor the adjustments made in ACR, then you are on the wrong way: the ACR adjustments will not be honored by other programs (and ACR is not honoring other programs' adjustments). Thus, if you are processing a DNG with DxO the first time, you are supposed to see the "native" version, no matter how much you worked on that with other raw editors.

                         

                        Gabor

                        • 10. Re: I can´t extract all raws from dng
                          deejjjaaaa Community Member
                          However, I find it very strange, that DxO "does not see" the DNG, but it is able to extract the NEF from it.

                           

                          He said that DxO supports original raw files (.NEF), not that DxO can extract it from .DNG...

                          • 11. Re: I can´t extract all raws from dng
                            tvalleau Community Member

                            DxO will not recognize DNG files. it will put out linear DNGs (which are essentially TIFFs.)  hth

                            • 12. Re: I can´t extract all raws from dng
                              dfranzen_adobe Community Member

                              Can you post the DNG again? The yousendit link is no longer working, and I'd like to investigate the file.

                               

                              Thank you,

                              David