26 Replies Latest reply: Mar 9, 2010 7:26 PM by Stan Jones RSS

    Premiere is making decisions FOR me...

    drpepper687 Community Member

      You know, I am getting pretty damn p-ed off that (1) I cant fix this and (2) I looked online for a week now and haven't found an answer...

       

      I have Windows 7 (64bit) and several Adobe Creative Suite programs including Premiere Pro (CS4). For the last, I dunno 10 YEARS with XP & Vista, I have never had a problem importing digital video. You plug the camera in, an auto-play menu comes up and asks me where I want to import the video to and I go to work. Never had a problem. Now I installed Windows 7, got all of my programs and files transferred over and I am ready to import some more video....

       

       

      All of a sudden (1) Adobe Premiere decides to open up when I didn't ask it to and (2) I don't get the auto-play menu asking me where I want to import my video to. Um..... wtf? I have never imported videos to my computer THROUGH Premiere... I've always used to auto-play menu, it's faster, easier etc. So I go to the control panel and discover that Adobe Premiere is the designated option for importing Digital Video to my computer. I switch it to "always ask me first", aka: the auto-play menu I want, and SAVE IT as my preference. Easy fix, right? Wrong.

       

      I plug in my camera and what do you know? F***in Adobe Premiere starts up again and the auto-play menu is nowhere in sight. I go back to the control panel and discover that, somehow, Adobe Premiere SWITCHED MY COMPUTER'S SETTINGS BACK TO WHAT ADOBE PREMIERE WANTED! Excuse me?!?!?!?!

       

      Anyone know how to fix this?????

        • 1. Re: Premiere is making decisions FOR me...
          Phil Griffith Community Member

          first of all, no, I don't know how, other than going back and

          changing your preference again. Perhaps it didn't save correctly the first time.

           

          second, I would think you are giving too much intelligence to a software program to change something that you did. After all, that's a windows function to bring up the auto start window. Try changing it to something else and see if that sticks. Then go back and change it to ask you each time.

           

          Third, what have you been using to capture your video with all this time? Do you even use Premiere to edit?

          • 2. Re: Premiere is making decisions FOR me...
            the_wine_snob CommunityMVP

            Does your camera have drivers? Were they installed, or did you just copy over some files? BTW - what camera is it?

             

            There have also been some odd behaviors stated with peripherals and Win7-64. The 64-bit drivers are often the problem. Many are hoping that SP1 will finally update those.

             

            Otherwise, I am at a loss to explain what you are encountering.

             

            Good luck,

             

            Hunt

            • 3. Re: Premiere is making decisions FOR me...
              drpepper687 Community Member

              I've already gone back to the control panel and re-selected "ask me every time" about 5 times in a row now. Everytime I plug in the camera, Adobe Premiere starts up and changes my auto-play option in the control panel back to "Adobe Premiere". In other words, since installing Adobe Premiere, it has forced the computer to use Premiere as the default digital video importing program. Before it would just bring up the windows digital video importing menu.

               

              I'm guessing there's a way to change this through Premiere (since it's completely futile changing it in the control panel). I mean, is there an options menu in Premiere where you can deselect it from automatically starting whenever i plug in my video camera?

               

              I also find it strange that Premiere didn't do this when I had it on Vista...

              • 4. Re: Premiere is making decisions FOR me...
                Phil Griffith Community Member

                I still do not think that Premiere is changing anything. Windows is seeing your camera and because of the auto start config, it is starting Premiere. Now the question is, how to tell Windows not to start Premiere. I am not at my system right now, but I'm thinking that maybe it is a matter of admin rights to change the auto start selection. Have you tried to right click and select "run as admin"? I presume you are single user, but Windows is very particular about letting things change without admin rights. The point I'm trying to make is Premiere isn't changing anything, it is just starting because of the auto start selection. I don't know of any Premiere preferences, to change..

                • 5. Re: Premiere is making decisions FOR me...
                  drpepper687 Community Member

                  "Windows is seeing your camera and because of the auto start config, it is starting Premiere."

                   

                  I've changed the auto start back to "ask me first" like 6 or 7 times now. But every time I plug the videocamera in, it switches the auto start back to Adobe Premiere.

                   

                  "maybe it is a matter of admin rights"

                   

                  I am almost 100% positive that I AM the admin.

                   

                  "Have you tried to right click and select "run as admin"?"

                   

                  Run what? Premiere?

                   

                   

                  If I can't fix this, I'm going to uninstall Premiere every time I want to import videos. Which is stupid because I import a lot of video and edit with Premiere because I do this for a living. Man is this frustrating...

                  • 6. Re: Premiere is making decisions FOR me...
                    shooternz Community Member

                    Is this some kind of File Association Issue?

                     

                    What kind of files does your PC see when you connect your camera?

                     

                    Surely not ".ppj"

                     

                    therefore..question is why does what ever it does see..."associate" with PPRO.

                     

                    Do you have some sort of file association that says "PLAY ME with PREMIERE PRO"  (eg. use PPRO to PLAY MPEGS)

                     

                    So: the camera is what?

                    How is it connected?

                    What are the file types on it?

                    • 7. Re: Premiere is making decisions FOR me...
                      ECS_1 Community Member

                      Suspect it's a windows problem not a Premiere problem. I have often tried to changemy windows file association preferences by opening, for example, a movie file for which I stupidly allowed Nero to be the default player. Now no matter how many times I tell it to auto-play using Power DVD, if I double click on a video file it still tries to play in Nero.

                      • 8. Re: Premiere is making decisions FOR me...
                        the_wine_snob CommunityMVP

                        ECS,

                         

                        Rather than doing this from Windows Explorer/My Computer, go to Control Panel and choose Folder Options, then File Types (note: exact syntax might differ by versions of the OS). There you can associate programs and files, and on a permanent basis. That will "stick." However, some programs really want to associate certain types of files, and will go in and make a change, every time you update them. Though it now seems much better, QuickTime Player was really bad at this. Update, and it went into the Registry and associated almost every image and AV format to it. The old RealMedia Player was the absolute worst that I have ever seen. It "hooked" about every file type. I believe that the reason for this was that it also played ads for a few minutes, before it even started up, and the user could not exit out, except through Task Manager. It would hook DOC's, WPD's, AI's, PSD's, everything. Now, it could not play most file types, except for the RM variations, and some AVI's, but would play the ads before finally yielding an error message, "RealMedia Player cannot Open this file type." That did not stop it from hooking everything. It was basically a virus in my book.

                         

                        Good luck,

                         

                        Hunt

                        • 9. Re: Premiere is making decisions FOR me...
                          Studio North Films Community Member

                          Hi,

                           

                          i had the same issue, everytime i swithed on my vtr premier would start. if you go to control panel and autoplay.

                          hope this helps

                           

                          baz

                          • 10. Re: Premiere is making decisions FOR me...
                            drpepper687 Community Member

                            "So: the camera is what?"

                             

                            The camera is a Sony DCR-HC52 Handycam.

                             

                            "How is it connected?"

                             

                            It's connected through a 4pin DV cord to a 4pin plug on my computer.

                             

                            "What are the file types on it?"

                             

                            Huh? I have absolutely no clue and I WORK in the film industry. I dunno, my guess is videocamera files?

                             

                             

                            The point we're missing is that it's not a camera issue. I had this exact same camera, the exact same cord, the exact same computer, the exact same version of Adobe Premiere Pro (CS4) on Vista (64bit) and everything worked fine. When I plugged the camera in, Adobe Premiere didn't force itself open. Then I switched to Windows 7 (64bit) with the exact same camera, the exact same cord, on the exact same computer and didn't have any issues importing digital video. This only happened after I installed Premiere. I didn't see any options in the installation menu for making Premiere the default digital video importing program. I did nothing different than when I had installed Premiere on Vista and used it 100% fine for over a year. That's why this is mind boggling to me.

                            • 11. Re: Premiere is making decisions FOR me...
                              shooternz Community Member

                              FYI - Its a mini-DV camera connected via  Firewire cable.

                               

                              No one is missing the point but it was helpful to know exactly what you were connecting.

                               

                               

                              Maybe do a google seach on mini DV camera / Win7.

                               

                               

                              start here:  http://www.codewrecks.com/blog/index.php/2009/05/24/windows-7-rc-acquisition-from-dv-camer a/

                              • 13. Re: Premiere is making decisions FOR me...
                                drpepper687 Community Member

                                The solution found on this page:

                                 

                                http://www.codewrecks.com/blog/index.php/2009/05/24/windows-7-rc-acquisition-from-dv-camer a/

                                 

                                ... is good to know, but I didn't have a problem with the computer finding the camera. Before I installed Premiere, it saw the camera and brought up the "import video" menu right away, so that isn't the problem. I'm also don't like installing extra programs I'll never use on my computer just to get something else to work; it's a waste of hard drive space and I like to keep things efficient and tidy.

                                 

                                I'll look into this one:

                                 

                                http://forums.adobe.com/thread/521842

                                 

                                ... though, again, I didn't have a problem importing before so I don't think it's a driver issue.

                                 

                                 

                                Thanks for the advice so far. I'll try a few different things when I get home to get this to work, though I have to ask: is there a way to import video to my computer through Adobe Premiere?

                                • 14. Re: Premiere is making decisions FOR me...
                                  Curt Wrigley Community Member

                                  drpepper687 wrote:

                                   

                                  is there a way to import video to my computer through Adobe Premiere?

                                  Yes; In Pr,  Pres F5 to bring up the capture video panel for tape based cams.

                                   

                                  Overall; there is no setting in Pr to "takeover" the autostart function of attaching a dv device.   Win 7 must have changed how windows handles this since all your other variables are the same.  Perhaps it is also that Pr is now the only video cap app on your PC so Win is simply defaulting to it.  You may find more help on this on a win7 forum.    Also; if you want Windows to default to a capture tool other than Pr; why not set the autodetect to the one you want?

                                  • 15. Re: Premiere is making decisions FOR me...
                                    Stan Jones CommunityMVP

                                    Curt, you responded while I was composing.  I'll just paste it in unchanged, since the OP clearly says that he captured under Win7 before installing Premiere.

                                     

                                    I have to admit that I believe some of you were missing his main point, but that may be a

                                    difference of opinion about what may be wrong.  His description is that the autoplay menu

                                    came up UNDER Win7, until he installed Premiere, and then it is no longer an autoplay

                                    choice, but opens Premiere.  While we've all been wrong when we were certain we did

                                    something a certain way, his belief is that this changed when he installed Premiere, not

                                    when he installed Win7.

                                     

                                    I'll note that this is an issue of how a device is configured, and has nothing to do with file

                                    types/associations.  True?

                                     

                                    Can someone using Win7 64 bit CS4 confirm that when you turn on a miniDV camera, you

                                    get autoplay, or some action, and can you change this to/from autoplay?  (I am WinXP 32

                                    CS3, and I admit I am useless for any real answer here.)

                                     

                                    Dr Pepper, when you got the autoplay choice and captured (with Win7 pre-Premiere

                                    installation), what program did you use to capture?  Can you now: attach the camera, let

                                    Premiere load and then close it, manually open the program you used to capture, and

                                    capture?

                                    • 16. Re: Premiere is making decisions FOR me...
                                      Curt Wrigley Community Member

                                      I have win 7 and my Auto Start for Digital video is still at the default "Choose a default".   If I connect a dv device with no apps running win7 asks what i want to do.

                                      • 17. Re: Premiere is making decisions FOR me...
                                        drpepper687 Community Member

                                        Thanks for the reply, Stan.

                                         

                                        "His description is that the autoplay menu

                                        came up UNDER Win7, until he installed Premiere, and then it is no longer an autoplay

                                        choice, but opens Premiere."

                                         

                                        Spot on.

                                         

                                        "Can someone using Win7 64 bit CS4 confirm that when you turn on a miniDV camera, you

                                        get autoplay, or some action, and can you change this to/from autoplay?"

                                         

                                        I hope someone does confirm that, but I can say that yes, that is exactly what I have seen on Vista and 7. Yes, in fact, I just found a picture of this pop-up menu online, here's what it looks like:

                                         

                                        http://www.papajohn.org/Newsletters/133/Autoplay.jpg

                                         

                                        This menu doesn't pop up anymore and Adobe Premiere starts up everytime instead.

                                        • 18. Re: Premiere is making decisions FOR me...
                                          the_wine_snob CommunityMVP

                                          Notice the checkbox and line of text "Always do this for this device." Did you EVER check that? If so, that will always cause Windows to bypass this screen and go with whatever was set as the default.

                                           

                                          Good luck,

                                           

                                          Hunt

                                          • 19. Re: Premiere is making decisions FOR me...
                                            shooternz Community Member

                                            I am still picking that 'Windows Live' is going to feature in the problem and the solution.

                                            • 20. Re: Premiere is making decisions FOR me...
                                              Stan Jones CommunityMVP

                                              I think you're right, but without Win7, I have no idea.

                                               

                                              Dr. Pepper, I do suggest you look further at the windows live stuff.   first, the video import is not part of win7.  Second, you have to add somethign to do it.  I do wonder if you are mistaken about having imported video in win7, but that's just my speculation since there is currently no explanation that accounts for you problem.

                                               

                                              A test of part of this is to see if you have the windows video import program installed.  See Craig's link above regarding installing the window's live photogallery and movie maker, which says this:

                                               

                                              "Then you must open photo gallery (I know that you want to import a video, but in windows 7 the DV acquisition module is in photo gallery), goes to the file menu and then, import from a camera or scanner."

                                              • 21. Re: Premiere is making decisions FOR me...
                                                drpepper687 Community Member

                                                Ok, I got it to work. What happened was, I use Adobe Premiere for all of my film projects, however, I had some old Movie Maker files that I wanted to edit real quick. You can only get Movie Maker on Windows 7 if you install it as one of the "Live Essentials" updates. I installed it but discovered that this is a "new" Movie Maker which is garbage and almost incompatible with all of my old files. I immediately deleted it (and was able to install an older version which works for me) and at the same time deleted Windows Photo Gallery which was bundled with it, because I never used the Photo Gallery. Which brings us to it....

                                                 

                                                I discovered that some part of the Photo Gallery update is responsible for the basic importing process in Windows 7, including digital video. That's like saying if I deleted one of the programs like "calculator" or "Ms Paint" and all of a sudden "My Documents" is no longer accessable. Anyways, I reinstalled Photo Gallery and Movie Maker and discovered that I can once again import video. I experimented by deleting just Movie Maker and discovered that I could still import video, so Photo Gallery is the only thing I needed on the computer in order for that to work. Note: Photo Gallery came with Windows 7, Movie Maker I installed with the "Live Essentials" update, so yes, you can import video from the moment you install Windows 7.

                                                 

                                                However, for my first test I uninstalled Premiere Pro to see if I could import video after it was gone, which wasn't the case, so now I am reinstalling Premiere Pro. I'm guessing I wil have the option to use the Windows import option this time around, but hey, anything could happen so I'll keep you guys informed.

                                                 

                                                Not-so-fun fact:  For some reason after installing the Photo Gallery and having this video importing issue fixed by doing so, all of a sudden my Sirius Satellite Radio internet quick launch icon changed from the Sirius logo, to a default Internet Explorer icon. It wont change back. I cannot fathom why it would do that, it's totally unrelated and doesn't make any sense at all. Wow, Windows...

                                                • 22. Re: Premiere is making decisions FOR me...
                                                  shooternz Community Member
                                                  I am still picking that 'Windows Live' is going to feature in the problem and the solution.

                                                   

                                                   

                                                  ...and we have a WINNER!

                                                   

                                                  where do I collect my prize?

                                                  • 23. Re: Premiere is making decisions FOR me...
                                                    the_wine_snob CommunityMVP

                                                    Wow, what a crooked path you had to roam! I've heard really, really negative things about WMM Live. WMM used to be mentioned in the PrE forum as a "conversion" program, and also a capture program, with things did not work in PrE. Lately, those recommendations always have "DO NOT USE WMM LIVE!" postpended to them.

                                                     

                                                    Thank you for reporting, as it will likely help others in the future.

                                                     

                                                    Good luck with that Sirius icon.

                                                     

                                                    Hunt

                                                    • 24. Re: Premiere is making decisions FOR me...
                                                      Stan Jones CommunityMVP

                                                      Please report to the lounge for your ice cold Rolling Rock!  (You put me up, I'll deliver it in person.)

                                                       

                                                      Dr Pepper, I have one for you too, for reporting back and giving us all closure on this one!

                                                      • 25. Re: Premiere is making decisions FOR me...
                                                        drpepper687 Community Member

                                                        I still disagree to an extent that it was all a Windows Live issue, mainly because this menu:

                                                         

                                                        http://www.papajohn.org/Newsletters/133/Autoplay.jpg

                                                         

                                                        now looks like this instead:

                                                         

                                                        http://drpepper687.webs.com/FORZA/LiveImport2.jpg

                                                        Note how the "Import Video" option has changed from "using Windows Import Video" to "using Windows Live Photo Gallery"...

                                                        • 26. Re: Premiere is making decisions FOR me...
                                                          Stan Jones CommunityMVP

                                                          Thanks for providing that info.

                                                           

                                                          Since he only claimed it would "feature in" the problem and solution, we'll still have to declare him a winner.

                                                           

                                                          BTW, there are free yoodles in the lounge.