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    Buttons work on computer player but not real dvd player hooked up to tv?

    elementsk8er506 Community Member

      Hi,

       

      Sorry to sound hectic but I have a portfolio screening in 3 hours and I'm bugging out!

       

      My dvd plays fine on my mac using dvd player app. The menu button highlights and I can choose different options.

       

      I tested it out on two different real dvd players linked to a tv. On the tv I noticed theres no button highlights and I cant push up or down to choose different options. All I can do is press the play button and have it default to playing the first thing.

       

      I don't know why this is happening! But I want to solve the problem as soon as possible.

       

      I used a tutorial from Andrew from Video Copolilot. It was his Recon Man DVD Authoring tutorial.

       

      http://www.videocopilot.net/tutorials/dvd_authoring/

       

      He had an interesting way of creating buttons where he made them in photshop. I did this technique - could something with this issue be whats causing the problem? Or can it be something else?

       

      Thankyou

        • 1. Re: Buttons work on computer player but not real dvd player hooked up to tv?
          the_wine_snob Community Member

          What Mac OS are you on?

           

          There was a major issue with Button Highlights and an earlier OS. For a while, there was even a sticky warning message at the top of the forum's main page. I do not recall the exact problems, the OS's involved, or the solutions. A Search of this forum should yield posts on that issue. I do not know if it's the your particular problem, or not.

           

          Good luck, and maybe someone will know the exact details of those posts,

           

          Hunt

          • 2. Re: Buttons work on computer player but not real dvd player hooked up to tv?
            elementsk8er506 Community Member

            Thanks for the reply

             

            My OS is 10.5.8

             

            It scares me that there is no known cause for this issue :O

             

            Maybe if I have time I can burn it on my friends laptop if he's available. I'm not sure what OS he has though.

            • 3. Re: Buttons work on computer player but not real dvd player hooked up to tv?
              the_wine_snob Community Member

              Take a quick look at your Edit in PS thread. I outlined what happens with Edit in PS, and one glitch that has shown up for some, from time to time. I seem to have found a "cure," when it does show up, and only hope that that, or a glitch in your Edit in PS workflow.

               

              Good luck, and hope you make your deadline,

               

              Hunt

              • 4. Re: Buttons work on computer player but not real dvd player hooked up to tv?
                the_wine_snob Community Member

                I'm not up on my Mac OS version numbers, but that sounds very recent. In those older threads, they were talking about an OS deemed "Tiger," IIRC. That was replaced by what, Leopard, and then Snow Leopard (which had some major issues with Adobe software too, but I forget what they were)?

                 

                Good luck,

                 

                Hunt

                • 5. Re: Buttons work on computer player but not real dvd player hooked up to tv?
                  elementsk8er506 Community Member

                  Because it seems like a bug and not an operator issue, I'm going to try get Encore CS4 and hopefully the problem will be resolved.

                   

                  I'm assuming my CS3 Encore file will work with CS4!

                  • 6. Re: Buttons work on computer player but not real dvd player hooked up to tv?
                    tmveliotis

                    I'm having a similar issue with Encore CS4, on Snow Leopard (2008 MacBookPro). I've authored a DVD with a short first-run video. Then it goes to the Main Menu - and there are 4 submenus with 3 additional chapters each that I created using the create Chapter Index feature. It plays perfected on the DVD player in the OS, as well as in the preview.

                     

                    When I hit a real DVD player and you get to the menu, any buttons you press on the remote show the symbol in the top left that shows you can't do anything. I've tested this in several different DVD players thanks to friends.

                     

                    Am I missing something obvious? Does there need to be another slide in there before the menu?

                    Thanks!

                    • 7. Re: Buttons work on computer player but not real dvd player hooked up to tv?
                      elementsk8er506 Community Member

                      Ahh I was not pleased to see this issue is on CS4 as well!

                       

                      I am running regular Lepoard so hopefully my Encore CS4 will burn it correctly... eitherwise, I have no idea what to do.

                      • 8. Re: Buttons work on computer player but not real dvd player hooked up to tv?
                        elementsk8er506 Community Member

                        Also, it appears that tmveliotis is not using the Photoshop button method, which I thought could be the potential problem.

                         

                        I should have the CS4 version soon, so I'll stay posted to wheter or not the button highlight will work properly for me.

                         

                        - Mike

                        • 9. Re: Buttons work on computer player but not real dvd player hooked up to tv?
                          elementsk8er506 Community Member

                          I just got CS4 and still am having issues with Encore.

                           

                          I think my button code set up may be the problem for me in my case.

                           

                          I am trying to make a button in photoshop that is an underline. I also want an invisible clicking state for when the DVD is previewed on the computer.

                           

                          Here is my code:

                           

                          (+) Button

                          (=1)        <-------(here's my underline created with the rectangle tool)

                          "Clicking State"      <----- (I would just name my blue rectangle that goes over everything clicking state)

                           

                          I then go back into Encore. I turn the eye off on clicking state. I've also tried turning it off in PS ahead of time. Either way it does not work properly.

                           

                          I figure since the clicking state layer isnt (=1) it is not recognizing it. Some one once mentioned in a different thread that you can name this anything but it doesnt work for me.

                           

                          I basically want an underline button from Photoshop with an invisible clicking field.

                          What code do I need to achieve this?

                           

                          Thankyou

                          • 10. Re: Buttons work on computer player but not real dvd player hooked up to tv?
                            Stan Jones MVP

                            Here's my understanding:

                            I basically want an underline button from Photoshop with an invisible clicking field.

                            The underline is a "highlight." 

                             

                            The "button" is the whole + group.

                             

                            The "blue rectangle" and the notion of a "invisible clicking field" is created by Encore as the active area.  The size of the active area is the smallest rectangle that includes all the elements in the button group.

                             

                            when the mouse hovers over the active areas if has the effect as if you navigate to the button.  Clicking is the same as executing the selected button.

                             

                            You don't need a state button.

                             

                            Am I missing something?

                            • 11. Re: Buttons work on computer player but not real dvd player hooked up to tv?
                              elementsk8er506 Community Member

                              Hi,

                               

                              My menu background has letters pre-rendered into them. I am planning on just adding an underline and a clicking field over them.

                               

                              If I don't have an invisible clicking field, then when on a computer with a mouse, you can't click on the letters that are pre rendered into the menu background. The only way to play the video by clicking, is to aim it just right on the skinny little underline which is frustrating.

                              • 12. Re: Buttons work on computer player but not real dvd player hooked up to tv?
                                Stan Jones MVP

                                Ah, yes.  There is, in fact, "nothing" in the button when the "clicking" layer is not visible.

                                 

                                It wll not be a "=1" which would make it a highlight.

                                 

                                I would normally do this with a vector graphic, but it would have color.

                                • 13. Re: Buttons work on computer player but not real dvd player hooked up to tv?
                                  the_wine_snob Community Member

                                  Stanley,

                                   

                                  You are correct. A Button Layer Set is defined by a rectangle that encompasses 100% of that Layer Set, including the Sub-picture Highlight. These are best seen, if one is in the Encore Menu Editing Panel, and a Button is selected. There will be a Bounding Box, and THAT is the total Button. If one moves, say the Sub-picture Highlight down, or up, that Bounding Box will increase in size to encompass that aspect of the Button.

                                   

                                  Along those lines, these Bounding Boxes CANNOT overlap, even by one pixel.

                                   

                                  Hunt

                                  • 14. Re: Buttons work on computer player but not real dvd player hooked up to tv?
                                    the_wine_snob Community Member
                                    My menu background has letters pre-rendered into them. I am planning on just adding an underline and a clicking field over them.

                                     

                                    The one issue with this is that your text is part of the background, and is NOT part of the Button. The only aspect of the Button will be the Sub-picture Highlight, which will be a very small area. Check out its Bounding Box in Encore's Menu Editing Panel. The way around this limitation would be to do a Shape, or Text Box, to encompass your background text, and then turn its Visibility OFF. Check this out in Encore's Menu Editing Panel, just to make sure.

                                     

                                    One question: why do you want the text to be in the background and not part of the Button Layer Set. While easy to get around, I am just curious of your purpose.

                                     

                                    Good luck,

                                     

                                    Hunt

                                    • 15. Re: Buttons work on computer player but not real dvd player hooked up to tv?
                                      elementsk8er506 Community Member

                                      Hi!

                                       

                                      I finally got the menu buttons to work!

                                       

                                      I tried two different things,

                                       

                                      • What I normally did was make one button in PS and then just duplicate it in Encore and go from there. This is what the video copilot tutorial went by.

                                        This time, I made all of the buttons in PS first and then brought them into Encore.

                                       

                                      • My underline was originally 3-4 pixels wide for the height. I thought that would be enough but I tried making it around 6 pixels and now they all show up in my preview.

                                       

                                      -----------------

                                       

                                      My clicking field works great and all the bottons underline on all the dvd players I tested!

                                       

                                      But now I feel I am stuck in another rut

                                       

                                      - I made sure to set my Encore pref to 16:

                                       

                                      and, I made sure my menu in the properties in the right were set to 16:9.

                                       

                                      When I burned to dvd, it came out slightly squished. It was odd. I was viewing it on a standard tv that wasnt hd, so I thought the ends would simply get cropped. But it appeared that the width was actually altered and my character on my menu looked skinnier. I tested it out on another tv and it was the same.

                                       

                                      I then tested it out on a hd tv. I noticed that there were black bars on the left and right and not the top and bottom. I am not certain, but rather sure I have tested it out before where I have seen black bars on the top and bottom.

                                       

                                      Either way, even though it looks 4:3, there was STILL cropping on the end! Also, it still appeared to be squished and skinneir.

                                       

                                      I pressed on my remote from normal view to wide view and the aspect ratio looked alot better. Although I feel I shouldn't have to do this.

                                       

                                      I last tried on one more dvd player hook up to a regular tv that isnt hd. Oddly enough, this one the aspect ratio wasn't squished. It looked fine.

                                      There was still cropping on the left and right, but thats because its just a regular tv. - The only thing with this is im pretty sure I've tested a dvd out on that tv with Encore and have seen black bars on the top and bottom, which I haven't seen this time.

                                       

                                      I then popped the dvd in my mac book pro and it came up perfect.

                                       

                                      ---------------------

                                       

                                      I know this issue is different from the button one, should I have posted it elsewhere?

                                       

                                      I now just need everything to be 16:9 on all screens. If anything I'll settle for cropping instead of black bars, but I can't tolerate a squished aspect ratio.

                                      • 16. Re: Buttons work on computer player but not real dvd player hooked up to tv?
                                        the_wine_snob Community Member

                                        The squished text is a sign that the PAR (Pixel Aspect Ratio) of the Menu does not match the Project. I always start my Menus in PS with the New Image Preset that matches, so an NTSC Widescreen Project would be 720 x 480 with a PAR = 1.2. I use the Preset with Guides, to show me my Title Safe Area, to keep everything inside, for CRT TV's, which overscan.

                                         

                                        Back in PS, what is the PAR of your .PSD's - Image>Pixel Aspect Ratio?

                                         

                                        Just doing an Edit in PS from Encore, correcting that PAR and doing a Save should help. My guess is that your Menu is Square Pixels, 1:1.

                                         

                                        As for the Buttons, I always do my duplication of Button Layer Sets in PS. This also lets me go in and easily rename my Layers and my Bottoms to match the names of my Assets. Note: in the Layers, and Layer Sets, one MUST adhere to he first characters naming convention, and ONLY change the name after the space. Only change the names AFTER the space. This renaming really, really comes in handy with multiple Scene Selection Menus. Trying to remember that "Button 2" on "Menu 4" links to "Corporate Retreat 2010." Also, I do not use spaces, or extended characters in my Timeline, or Asset names, even though OS's have allowed spaces for a decade, or more. The Sonic Authorcore, that is the base of Encore, can have issues with both spaces and extended characters, as well as very long file names and Paths.

                                         

                                        Good luck, and let us know if the PAR corrects things,

                                         

                                        Hunt

                                        • 17. Re: Buttons work on computer player but not real dvd player hooked up to tv?
                                          elementsk8er506 Community Member

                                          Thanks for the reply,

                                           

                                          The PAR of the PS document may be the issue.

                                           

                                          I would assume that it would have been set exactly the same as Encore from when I right clicked the menu in Encore and clicked edit menu in PS, but anything is possible.

                                           

                                          I checked the image size and canvas size and they were both 720X480, but I couldnt find anythng about the 1.1 / 1.2  

                                           

                                          Where can I go to check/change it?

                                           

                                          I am sure everything else is 16:9, so if its just the text from PS that need's to be fixed, hopefully it will fix the problem.

                                           

                                          I recall seeing older dvd's from Encore have black bars on the top and bottom of my tv screen. The burn I have now doesn't. Maybe it will change after this.

                                          • 18. Re: Buttons work on computer player but not real dvd player hooked up to tv?
                                            the_wine_snob Community Member

                                            In Photoshop, go to Image>Pixel Aspect Ratio (it's down the list in the drop-down menu), and that will give you the answer. This feature was added with PS CS, IIRC. Do not think that PS 7 had it yet.

                                             

                                            Good luck, and I hope that the PAR is the cause of the distortion. For Widescreen (16:9), it should appear as PAR = 1.2 in PS. Now, PrPro CS4.2 has made a minor change in PAR. Widescreen is now 1.212. Not sure if that has been changed to match in PS CS4.X, but will very likely be changed in PS CS5, when introduced. While mathematically correct, that slight difference should not be seen on-screen.

                                             

                                            Hunt

                                            • 19. Re: Buttons work on computer player but not real dvd player hooked up to tv?
                                              elementsk8er506 Community Member

                                              Hi,

                                               

                                              At first when I went to Image at the top of PS I didn't find pixel aspect ratio because I realised I had to click show all menu items.

                                               

                                              When I did I saw it was set to "custom pixel aspect ratio".

                                               

                                              When I clicked on it, it said it had a factor of 1.212.

                                               

                                              I am using PS CS3 extended and Encore CS4.  Can this be an issue?  I also exported my files to .m2v with AE CS3.

                                               

                                              Could it have maybe exported from AE as 1.21 and then this whole 1.212 issue mess things up?

                                               

                                              Also I saw in the info for my .m2v's in Quicktime that it wasn't giving the most acurrate information. Or it was reading them odd. Such as 720X404.

                                               

                                              I then brought my .m2v file into AE to read its properties at the top left.

                                               

                                              It said 720 X 480 (1.20) Separating (Lower).

                                               

                                              Can this 1.20 be an issue?

                                               

                                              I am sure I exported from AE exactly like Andrew Kramer did in his Authoring tutorial.

                                              • 20. Re: Buttons work on computer player but not real dvd player hooked up to tv?
                                                the_wine_snob Community Member

                                                The 1.212 is the new, updated, and correct Pixel Aspect Ratio. Adobe had rounded it to 1.2 for Widescreen. Adobe slightly altered the Standard (4:3) PAR too. These little corrections came with CS4, so CS, CS2, CS3 will not recognize these new PAR's as being the standard. PS CS4 has been changed, IIRC.

                                                 

                                                Hope that this helps.

                                                 

                                                Good luck,

                                                 

                                                Hunt

                                                • 21. Re: Buttons work on computer player but not real dvd player hooked up to tv?
                                                  elementsk8er506 Community Member

                                                  I am still not sure why on some dvd players/televisions  my dvd menu is being squished from the sides.

                                                   

                                                  Even though some read 1.20  ,  1.21,   and  1.212  ,  arent they all so close to eachother that you would not notice by eye?

                                                   

                                                  The fact that my dvd menu on some tv's have my character noticably skinnier makes a concern, and for what I do not know how to solve.

                                                   

                                                  - Mike

                                                  • 22. Re: Buttons work on computer player but not real dvd player hooked up to tv?
                                                    elementsk8er506 Community Member

                                                    I tried setting the PS PAR's deafaulted "custom 1.212" to the 1.20 preset. That burn did not help.

                                                     

                                                    I then tried burning a disc image. The iso looks great on the computer.

                                                     

                                                    When burned to disc, its squished on the tv.

                                                     

                                                    I'm using sony + r discs.

                                                     

                                                    My dvd players are:

                                                     

                                                    - phillips

                                                    - samsung

                                                    - jvc

                                                    - magnovox

                                                     

                                                    Of all the players they play squished except for the magnovox.

                                                     

                                                    The magnovox player plays my dvd fine. The aspect ratio is good. The only issue is the cropping, but thats because its linked to a regular tv.

                                                     

                                                    My phillips player is linked to a Sony Bravia HD tv. When the menu comes up, there is black bars on the left and right. There is half inch cropping on the left and right as well! - Odd....  it looks like my raw picture is basically converted to sd or something

                                                     

                                                    Why would there be black bars and half inch cropping?

                                                     

                                                    The disc on the computer looks great. Perfect 16:9, no slight cropping.

                                                     

                                                    ---------------------

                                                     

                                                    Can it be possible that my discs are fine and it just so happens those dvd players in particular won't play the 16:9? Or is this not normal?

                                                     

                                                    Has this issue happened to any one else before? I've been dealing with this problem for over 3 weeks now and am starting to loose patience. I'm considering purchasing another dvd program and starting over because Encore isn't being solved.

                                                    • 23. Re: Buttons work on computer player but not real dvd player hooked up to tv?
                                                      the_wine_snob Community Member

                                                      Mike,

                                                       

                                                      There are settings for how either/both the set-top player and the TV handle Widescreen. This can be a real issue, as the producer has little, to no, control over how a user might have their equipment set up.

                                                       

                                                      My BD players have settings, and so do all of my TV's. It is now a real "jungle" out there. Life was pretty simple when everyone had 4:3 CRT TV's.

                                                       

                                                      Good luck,

                                                       

                                                      Hunt

                                                      • 24. Re: Buttons work on computer player but not real dvd player hooked up to tv?
                                                        the_wine_snob Community Member
                                                        Can it be possible that my discs are fine and it just so happens those dvd players in particular won't play the 16:9? Or is this not normal?

                                                         

                                                        With the exception of the 4:3 CRT TV, all the rest can handle 16:9, but its HOW they handle the signal, that will make a difference. Most have set up menus, that will allow you to dictate how the signals are displayed. Depending on those signals, one might need to change these settings. Also, many set-top players also have choices on how they handle and transmit the signals too.

                                                         

                                                        Good luck,

                                                         

                                                        Hunt

                                                        • 25. Re: Buttons work on computer player but not real dvd player hooked up to tv?
                                                          elementsk8er506 Community Member

                                                          So I'm assuming my disc's are fine and its the dvd player's set up's problem?

                                                           

                                                          I'm planning on burning 60-70 copies, and I don't want to start without being sure! Do you think I should just burn as they are?

                                                           

                                                          It's a shame that the dvd players don't default to the correct aspect ratio, and it has to be done manually after.

                                                           

                                                          Is this whole 16:9 issue common with people?

                                                           

                                                          My only concern is how on the hd tv, there was 1 inch cropping on the left and right, in which even setting it to wide will never get those parts back. The whole clipping issue actually cut a few letters out of one of my buttons.

                                                           

                                                          I hate to be so annoying about this whole thread, I've never had such a long problem ever.

                                                           

                                                          I don't know how all the movies in the rental stores from hollywood never come in squished and default fine... they must use dvd studio pro

                                                          • 26. Re: Buttons work on computer player but not real dvd player hooked up to tv?
                                                            Stan Jones MVP

                                                            It can be confusing to correctly setup and assess various dvd player/tv options.  Because you do not appear to understand (yet - you will soon!) how your test options are set, it is still possible that you have a par issue.  but your very squished playback does sound odd.  So look at each combination: TV 4:3, only the DVD setting matters, and it should be set for the TV to be 4:3.

                                                             

                                                            Users will face the same sort of issue, unless they have their set setup correctly.  I label my widescreen DVDs with my website with an FAQ about this.  When I started doing this, I was convinced very few purchasers had widescreen TVs; now widescreen are more prevalent, so I'd probably reword it.

                                                             

                                                            http://www.videoandcomputer.com/faq.htm

                                                            • 27. Re: Buttons work on computer player but not real dvd player hooked up to tv?
                                                              elementsk8er506 Community Member

                                                              "So look at each combination: TV 4:3, only the DVD setting matters, and it should be set for the TV to be 4:3."

                                                               

                                                              When you say DVD settings, do you mean on the dvd player, or in Encore before burning?

                                                               

                                                              I am burning my dvd's at 16:9, so is this why it's scaling on a 4:3 tv?

                                                               

                                                              It appears that instead of just cutting out the extra width of the hd aspect ratio, it squeezes the whole picture into the 4:3, so it doesn't miss anything.

                                                              • 28. Re: Buttons work on computer player but not real dvd player hooked up to tv?
                                                                elementsk8er506 Community Member

                                                                All of my .m2v's are 16:9 with a 1.2

                                                                 

                                                                I went into photoshop and replicated what it looks like on my hd tv and my 4:3, its pretty close to how it looks:

                                                                 

                                                                ISO/DVD on Computer:

                                                                good par from iso.jpg

                                                                 

                                                                On HD tv set to normal:

                                                                par on hd.jpg

                                                                ^^^ As you can see, not only are there black bars on the left and right, but some of the ends are clipped, such as the letter l in reel, and also he's scaled in a bit

                                                                 

                                                                On a 4:3 tv:

                                                                par on 4by3.jpg

                                                                scaled as well

                                                                • 29. Re: Buttons work on computer player but not real dvd player hooked up to tv?
                                                                  Stan Jones MVP

                                                                  When you say DVD settings, do you mean on the dvd player, or in Encore before burning?

                                                                  Sorry; the DVD Player settings.

                                                                   

                                                                  I am burning my dvd's at 16:9, so is this why it's scaling on a 4:3 tv?

                                                                  While I think it is likely that there is a scaling problem, you need to know how each of your test setups is set, DVD player and TV.  A 16:9 DVD, played on a DVD player configured for a 4:3 TV, should show black at the top and bottom.

                                                                  It appears that instead of just cutting out the extra width of the hd aspect ratio, it squeezes the whole picture into the 4:3, so it doesn't miss anything.

                                                                    Yours looks like a player set to a widescreen TV with a zoom setting or similar.  But why guess?

                                                                  • 30. Re: Buttons work on computer player but not real dvd player hooked up to tv?
                                                                    elementsk8er506 Community Member

                                                                    I wish it would resort to black on the top and bottom when I pop it in.

                                                                     

                                                                    Even for my one 4:3 tv that isn't scaled, there is still no black on the top and bottom.

                                                                    • 31. Re: Buttons work on computer player but not real dvd player hooked up to tv?
                                                                      elementsk8er506 Community Member

                                                                      I know my video files would be too large, but is there any way I could upload the Encore project files onto here?

                                                                       

                                                                      I don't know why there isn't black bars on the top and bottom.

                                                                      • 32. Re: Buttons work on computer player but not real dvd player hooked up to tv?
                                                                        elementsk8er506 Community Member

                                                                        I came across a thread on another website that was very similiar to my problem:

                                                                         

                                                                        http://www.videohelp.com/forum/archive/16-9-dv-shrinks-to-4-3-when-buring-with-encore-1-5- t300689.html

                                                                         

                                                                        A reply from edDV quoted, "To get it display widescreen from a DVD player, the MPeg2 needs the widescreen flag turned on during authoring."

                                                                         

                                                                        Even thought when I brought my .m2v's back into AE and it read 1.20, I still figured I would look into them. So I right clicked on my .m2v in Encore and went to interpret footage. To my suprise - it was set to 1.0! So I changed all the .m2v's to interpret 1.20. I did a burn and - still didn't work

                                                                         

                                                                        By the way, I'm using Mpeg 2 DVD, not Mpeg 2....what's the difference? Don't you use mpeg2? I'm considering just trying that instead if nothing else works

                                                                        • 33. Re: Buttons work on computer player but not real dvd player hooked up to tv?
                                                                          Stan Jones MVP

                                                                          >I know my video files would be too large, but is there any way I could upload the Encore project files onto here?

                                                                           

                                                                          Without the video files (and yes, they would be too large), I don't think the project helps.  Posting screen shots might help.  but the issue is the par of the video assets.  I would use Gspot for this, but not available for Mac.  (I have seen posts suggestion MediaInfo for Mac.)

                                                                           

                                                                          >I wish it would resort to black on the top and bottom when I pop it in.

                                                                          >Even for my one 4:3 tv that isn't scaled, there is still no black on the top and bottom.

                                                                           

                                                                          I assume that it is cropping the left and right, therefore not scaling and not letterboxing.  Did you ever check the DVD player settings on that combination?  Without knowing the actual settings, we can't be sure you are set correctly.  Because this displays correctly on your computer, an dnot on TVs, I th ink you need to rule out the DVD player setting/TV combo.  I'd start with 4:3 TV you describe here.

                                                                           

                                                                          A reply from edDV quoted, "To get it display widescreen from a DVD player, the MPeg2 needs the widescreen flag turned on during authoring."

                                                                           

                                                                          I don't believe the poster there created his asset correctly.  A correct asset (i.e. 16:9) brought into encore will be handled correctly.

                                                                           

                                                                          Even thought when I brought my .m2v's back into AE and it read 1.20, I still figured I would look into them. So I right clicked on my .m2v in Encore and went to interpret footage. To my suprise - it was set to 1.0! So I changed all the .m2v's to interpret 1.20. I did a burn and - still didn't work

                                                                          I don't know if this changed, but in CS3, the interpret footage has two options: use the asset's par or "conform to."  Which one said 1.0?  What did it say if the "use the asset's par" is selected?

                                                                          • 34. Re: Buttons work on computer player but not real dvd player hooked up to tv?
                                                                            elementsk8er506 Community Member

                                                                            Hi, thanks once again for the reply,

                                                                             

                                                                            It is indeed cropping the left and right, and not letterboxing. My ultamite goal is to have it letterbox on a 4:3 tv, and play regular 16:9 with no cropping or letterboxing on an HD tv.

                                                                             

                                                                            I don't know if this changed, but in CS3, the interpret footage has two options: use the asset's par or "conform to."  Which one said 1.0?  What did it say if the "use the asset's par" is selected?

                                                                             

                                                                            I am currently trying my project on Encore CS4 now, because I thought upping to CS4 would solve my issues. In Encore CS4 I right clicked on my .m2v and go to interpret footage. It first defaults to: "Use the Asset's Pixel Aspect Ratio: Square Pixels (1.0)"

                                                                             

                                                                            I then clicked on the option under which is "Conform to" and has a drop down menu where I switched to "SD NTSC Widescreen (1.2121)

                                                                             

                                                                            ^^^ "SD NTSC Widescreen (1.2121)" was the only option in the drop down with a 1.2 factor

                                                                             

                                                                            Either way, conforming to the 1.2 didn't help the burn.

                                                                             

                                                                            But can the whole "Use the Asset's Pixel Aspect Ratio: Square Pixels (1.0)" be an issue? Does Encore think the .m2v is 1.0?

                                                                            • 35. Re: Buttons work on computer player but not real dvd player hooked up to tv?
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                                                                              I am currently trying my project on Encore CS4 now, because I thought upping to CS4 would solve my issues. In Encore CS4 I right clicked on my .m2v and go to interpret footage. It first defaults to: "Use the Asset's Pixel Aspect Ratio: Square Pixels (1.0)"

                                                                              ....

                                                                               

                                                                              But can the whole "Use the Asset's Pixel Aspect Ratio: Square Pixels (1.0)" be an issue? Does Encore think the .m2v is 1.0?

                                                                              I don't know, but I wonder if a) it is 1.0 or b) CS4 sees the 1.2 and treats it as "not 1.212 and therefore 1.0" or at least not widescreen.  but shouldn't the conform work?

                                                                              • 36. Re: Buttons work on computer player but not real dvd player hooked up to tv?
                                                                                elementsk8er506 Community Member

                                                                                Well I even went to my CS3 project and it was the same. I right clicked on the .m2v, went to interpret footage, and it said "Use the Asset's Pixel Aspect Ratio: Square Pixels (1.0)"

                                                                                I then switched all the .m2v's to 1.2

                                                                                 

                                                                                And doing the same conform thing it didn't work on CS3

                                                                                 

                                                                                Is it normal to go to interpret footage and have "Use the Asset's Pixel Aspect Ratio: Square Pixels (1.0)" show up? I exported from AE for widescreen, so I don't know why it first shows up as that, unless it does for everything.

                                                                                • 37. Re: Buttons work on computer player but not real dvd player hooked up to tv?
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                                                                                  Open the asset in Premiere what does it say there?

                                                                                   

                                                                                  I know you think you exported widescreen from AE, but I have to wonder....

                                                                                  • 38. Re: Buttons work on computer player but not real dvd player hooked up to tv?
                                                                                    elementsk8er506 Community Member

                                                                                    Sorry, I don't have Premier.

                                                                                     

                                                                                    I am going to try and re-render everything from scratch from AE one more time, and if it doens't help, I'm going to get DVD Studio Pro.

                                                                                     

                                                                                    - Mike

                                                                                    • 39. Re: Buttons work on computer player but not real dvd player hooked up to tv?
                                                                                      elementsk8er506 Community Member

                                                                                      I just spent 6 hours today re- rendering new mpeg2dvd's out of AE and started a whole new Encore project file from scratch.

                                                                                       

                                                                                      Ofcourse this burn did not work either.

                                                                                       

                                                                                      Even though I always render out for widescreen for my .m2v's, whenever I right click on my .m2v's in Encore its defaulted to "Use the Asset's Pixels Aspect Ratio: Square Pixels (1.0)". Even after switching the option to conform to 1.2 and making sure everything in Encore is 16:9, it still does not burn correctly.

                                                                                       

                                                                                      With starting this new Encore project file from scratch, I noticed one thing different from the other's.

                                                                                       

                                                                                      I am dealing with 5 .m2v's in my project. When I right click and go to interpret footage, they are all defaulted to "Use the Asset's Pixels Aspect Ratio: Square Pixels (1.0)" except for one. One .m2v file in particular for some reason is defaulted to "Use the Asset's Pixels Aspect Ratio: Square Pixels (1.2121)", in the interpret footage.

                                                                                       

                                                                                      Here are my screen snaps:

                                                                                       

                                                                                      Four of my .m2v's - when right click, interpret footage:

                                                                                       

                                                                                      interpret 1point0.jpg

                                                                                       

                                                                                      One .m2v in particular - when right click, interpret footage:

                                                                                       

                                                                                      interpret 1point2.jpg

                                                                                       

                                                                                      Can this be the case with my problem? I rendered out every video exactly the same from one another.
                                                                                      So, I have no idea why this one is different in the interpret footage section.

                                                                                       

                                                                                      When you are working with a 16:9 project in Encore what does your interpret footage say??

                                                                                       

                                                                                      If I can't figure out this issue I'll have to move to a different authoring program, because it has been a month now.

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