6 Replies Latest reply: Jun 6, 2010 12:05 PM by John T Smith RSS

    CS5 - Title = Wrong Aspect Ratio!

    John T Smith CommunityMVP

      Over here at the end http://forums.adobe.com/thread/652694?tstart=0 I was given ideas about converting AVCHD to AVI

       

      That works great... EXCEPT

       

      If I have only video the idea to cut 8 pixels from top and bottom works perfectly..,. the output AVI fills a widescreen DVD just right

       

      HOWEVER

       

      If I add a Title (with the correct size of 1920x1080 PAR 1) and export to AVI... the video that plays from a DVD at my TV does NOT fill the screen, it has bars on either side... not just the title, the entire video

       

      Any ideas?

        • 1. Re: CS5 - Title = Wrong Aspect Ratio!
          John T Smith CommunityMVP

          I've now done this twice (blanks are cheap, but I'm going to have to buy some RW's for this testing) and both time, I create a "roll" title that IS the correct size for the project... and when I export, the entire output has LARGE black borders on both sides

           

          I'm not finding anything in help/pdf to give me a clue... anyone have any ideas?

          • 2. Re: CS5 - Title = Wrong Aspect Ratio!
            Colin Brougham Community Member

            John,

             

            Check that your DVD player output is setup properly to show FHA (full-height anamorphic) DVDs. It will really depend on what format your TV is. Most DVD players have the option for 4:3 full-screen, 4:3 letterbox, and 16:9 full-screen. You may have it set to 4:3 full-screen and have a 16:9 TV. Additionally, many DVD players have (I find) annoying "zoom" or "scale" functions that can be inadvertently set, which will distort playback.

             

            Also, be sure that when you bring your assets into Encore, that the properties panel for that particular asset shows as 16:9, and not 4:3--Encore seems to have difficulty with some frame sizes.

            • 3. Re: CS5 - Title = Wrong Aspect Ratio!
              John T Smith CommunityMVP

              I am about 99.9% sure the problem is not my player (which goes to a Sony projector to a 93" screen)

               

              If I create my project with NO titles, and do the process of shaving 8 pixels off top and bottom and scale to fit the output, the resulting DVD plays perfectly in my movie room... no bars and fills the entire screen

               

              Add a rolling title, same export settings, and the exported AVI shows the large black bars on either side when played on my computer, and when authored with Encore (since Encore is just using what it is given)

               

              There is something about a rolling "screen credits" type title that is not working when shaving/scaling to fit a widescreen project

               

              I'm going to go in a bit and create a new project and create a "static" title to see if that works, since my thought now is that a rolling title, since it is designed to scroll from "below" the screen to "above" the screen... may not be processed when shaving a few pixels off the top and bottom (good thing I'm doing all this testing with sample files... no deadline here, just learning)

              • 4. Re: CS5 - Title = Wrong Aspect Ratio!
                Colin Brougham Community Member

                I am about 99.9% sure the problem is not my player (which goes to a Sony projector to a 93" screen)

                 

                If I create my project with NO titles, and do the process of shaving 8 pixels off top and bottom and scale to fit the output, the resulting DVD plays perfectly in my movie room... no bars and fills the entire screen

                I think you're probably right; I misread the part about you saying that it displayed properly sans title.

                Add a rolling title, same export settings, and the exported AVI shows the large black bars on either side when played on my computer, and when authored with Encore (since Encore is just using what it is given)

                In regard to the black bars: do they squeeze in the video, so that it's horizontally squished, or do they just cover the sides of the video so that the part that does show is the correct aspect ratio?

                There is something about a rolling "screen credits" type title that is not working when shaving/scaling to fit a widescreen project

                Indeed, but why the AVI reacts that way is strange. All I can figure is that something is amiss in your export settings--AME will eat what it's given.

                • 5. Re: CS5 - Title = Wrong Aspect Ratio!
                  John T Smith CommunityMVP

                  Further testing (viewed output on my computer, will go upstairs to movie room later... but I doubt it will be different)

                   

                  This test was with a STATIC title instead of a rolling title

                   

                  No title at all... DV Widescreen output has "narrow" back bars on each side, cropping 8 from top and bottom and scale to fit results in a video that fills the screen

                   

                  Static title... DV Widescreen output has "narrow" back bars on each side, cropping 8 from top and bottom and scale to fit results in a video that has "wide" black bars on each side

                   

                  As I said... I need to play the DVD to my projector to be sure, but there seems to be "something" about the 8+8 cropping and scale to fit that does not work if there is either a static or rolling title

                   

                  The video and 8+8 cropping and scale to fit settings are the same... no title = crop + scale to fit works as it should... any title and it doesn't work right

                   

                  Since there are times I do need a title, I think I will just live with the narrow black bars on each side when going from AVCHD to DV Widescreen

                  • 6. Re: CS5 - Title = Wrong Aspect Ratio!
                    John T Smith CommunityMVP

                    Back again after playing the DVD on a real player... same result

                     

                    The video with title and going straight to an NTSC DV Widescreen output plays with "narrow" black bars on each side

                     

                    The same video using 8+8 top/bottom cropping and scale to fit results in "wide" black bars on each side

                     

                    I don't know if this is a CS5 bug or "feature" but I did make a report to https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform

                     

                    Since I can live with the narrow black bands, I now know to just export from AVCHD "as-is" to a Widescreen AVI to feed Encore (I haven't tried Dynamic Link yet... may do that another day)

                     

                    Now... off to have the wife "arrange" the individual rooms the way she wants and more filming so I can force let my out of town relatives see a home movie of where we live

                     

                    Later, when the weather is nice, I'll go film a friend's soccer game to see how rapid movement comes out on a DVD from AVCHD source