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1. Re: CS4: AVCHD performance
John T Smith Jul 4, 2010 8:26 PM (in response to Christopher Duncan)Premiere's "native" SD format is DV AVI type 2 with 16bit 48khz sound
I used to use CS3 with that kind of file (digitized from analog 8mm tapes via Pinnacle Dv500 card) to produce home movie DVDs
I now have a 64bit computer and CS5 and work directly with AVCHD... which I down-rez to DVD (don't know anyone to inflict share my DVDs with who has a BluRay player) and it all works gread http://forums.adobe.com/thread/652694?tstart=0
Since I don't convert AVCHD to AVI before editing I really don't know which program to use... but this list may help
Tools to Convert to DV-AVI http://forums.adobe.com/thread/415317?tstart=0
I have NOT used the products below, I only forward due to other mentions
Convert http://premierepro.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ:How_do_I_convert_my_files%3F
Edit Vob http://premierepro.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ:How_do_I_import_VOB_files_/_edit_a_DVD%3F
Convert your files to DV-AVI Type II with 48KHz 16-bit Audio
Or, if you want to edit a divx file, start at http://www.divx.com/
To edit WMV http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/moviemaker/getstarted/default.mspx
and http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/forpros/encoder/default.mspx
$99 http://www.corel.com/servlet/Satellite/us/en/Product/1175714228541#tabview=tab0
$99 http://www.womble.com/products/mvw.html
$90 http://www.magix.com/us/movie-edit-pro/ plus $5 Ship
$80 http://www.nchsoftware.com/prism/index.html
$75 http://www.videoredo.com/en/index.htm
$70 http://www.nchsoftware.com/prism/index.html Converter
$40 http://www.daniusoft.com/dvd-ripper.html#135
$40 http://www.deskshare.com/dmc.aspx Digital Media Converter
$20 http://www.topsoftwareol.com/product/Video/Video_Converter_Standard.html
$00 http://www.squared5.com/ MPEG Streamclip Converter
$00 http://www.erightsoft.com/SUPER.html Multi-Converter
$00 http://www.virtualdub.org/ Mpeg to AVI Converter -
2. Re: CS4: AVCHD performance
Stan Jones Jul 4, 2010 8:54 PM (in response to Christopher Duncan)I finally loaded CS4, so, even though I am doing SD on an underpowered machine, I am again curious about performance of CS4 with AVCHD. In many of the earlier discussions (when CS4 was new), a factor was which AVCHD datarate was at issue. Some users who were "doing okay" were using a lower AVCHD datarate. It seemed to me that it was meaningless to discuss unless the datarate was stated. In this case, does Chris' camera tell you what the datarate is? Or does the format?
Just curious.
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3. Re: CS4: AVCHD performance
Harm Millaard Jul 4, 2010 11:04 PM (in response to Christopher Duncan)Chris,
Your analysis is correct. Your PC is underpowered for AVCHD editing. That means you have two choices:
1. Get a faster PC, or
2. Downrez / convert to DV AVI type2. The easiest approach would be to have the camera do the downrezzing, but I'm not sure your camera can. If not, one approach might be to just make one timeline with all your AVCHD material in it, and export directly to DV AVI and then edit the DV AVI in an SD project. Or you can try to Google for a converter.
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4. Re: CS4: AVCHD performance
Christopher Duncan Jul 5, 2010 8:00 AM (in response to John T Smith)Hi, John.
Thanks for the quick response and all the info. Sounds like once I put a batch convert of mts to dvi type II at the beginning of my workflow I should be good to go. I'll start poking around in the resources you've listed to find an appropriate converter.
Hope you had a good 4th!
Chris
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5. Re: CS4: AVCHD performance
Christopher Duncan Jul 5, 2010 8:01 AM (in response to Stan Jones)Stan,
Not seeing any indication of data rate in any of the specs.
Chris
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6. Re: CS4: AVCHD performance
Christopher Duncan Jul 5, 2010 8:02 AM (in response to Harm Millaard)Harm,
Thanks for the insights. Until I get faster ponies, a conversion step sounds like the way to go.
Chris
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7. Re: CS4: AVCHD performance
Bill Hunt Jul 5, 2010 8:35 AM (in response to Christopher Duncan)Chris,
I do not work with AVCHD, so cannot vouch for the info in this ARTICLE, but there might be something helpful in it.
Good luck,
Hunt
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8. Re: CS4: AVCHD performance
Christopher Duncan Jul 5, 2010 9:55 AM (in response to Bill Hunt)Bill,
Appreciate the article. Unfortunately, the Koyote software mentioned contains malware.
Chris
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9. Re: CS4: AVCHD performance
Bill Hunt Jul 5, 2010 11:32 AM (in response to Christopher Duncan)That is bad news, and I'm sorry to hear about that. I have not used it, so cannot comment.
Did you get any info on what that malware was, and which program found it?
Thanks for reporting,
Hunt
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10. Re: CS4: AVCHD performance
Christopher Duncan Jul 5, 2010 12:09 PM (in response to Bill Hunt)Fortunately my common sense alarms went off before completing the install once I saw the toolbar stuff they were trying to include. Did some quick googling, found the toolbars were what I suspected and difficult to uninstall, and thus cancelled the installation dialog.
While it's true you can uncheck the toolbars, any developer who's trying to slip that sort of thing in has violated the user's trust. Since they can just as easily put other such things in their code and simply not tell you about it, it's best to simply make a note of them and move on.
Do appreciate the recommendation, though. It's the thought that counts. ;-)
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11. Re: CS4: AVCHD performance
Bill Hunt Jul 5, 2010 12:46 PM (in response to Christopher Duncan)Thanks for the clarification. It has gotten to the point where almost every program wants to install Google, Yahoo, or Bing Toolbars in the browsers.
To date, unchecking those has not yielded any problems, but I do hate that they are checked by default. Think of the number of users, who do the "recommended Express Install." Same with some programs, if one has left them to AutoUpdate. All sorts of "stuff" is included, and those AutoUpdates usually come at the wrong time - like when one is editing. I turn them ALL to OFF, and do my updating manually, when I want, and with the Custom Install, so that I can pick and choose.
Appreciated,
Hunt
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12. Re: CS4: AVCHD performance
Christopher Duncan Jul 5, 2010 1:28 PM (in response to Bill Hunt)The major players don't worry me so much, although like you I find the defaults annoying. That said, when a program wants to install some no-name toolbar as in this case, it's usually a recipe for trouble, and that's when I balk.
I also agree with you on the automatic update stuff. It's not that I don't want my system and various software fully patched, it's more an aversion to the software corollary of Murphy's Law. Never do a software update unless you have a day to screw around with the problems that it will inevitably cause if you don't have the time to screw around with it. ;-)




