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1. Re: When InDesign will support Math directly?
BobLevine Jul 23, 2010 5:12 AM (in response to Praveen10)If you want it, tell Adobe directly, not us:https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform
Bob
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2. Re: When InDesign will support Math directly?
Praveen10 Jul 23, 2010 5:24 AM (in response to BobLevine)Hi Bob,
This has been entered already in InDesign Feature Request: http://forums.adobe.com/message/1926829#1926829, a year back, but nothing happened yet.
Thanks,
Praveen
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3. Re: When InDesign will support Math directly?
BobLevine Jul 23, 2010 5:35 AM (in response to Praveen10)Well, contrary to your original post, there are still quite a few other things on the request list. All you can do is ask.
Bob
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4. Re: When InDesign will support Math directly?
[Jongware] Jul 23, 2010 5:46 AM (in response to Praveen10)Maybe "nothing happened" because it's far from "the only thing lacking".
Sure: typesetting equations (which is, actually, something else than 'doing math in InDesign') is on my wish-list but there are tons of other things that have a higher priority -- for me.
Other people have other lists, other items, other priorities. So far, they seem to be winning.
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5. Re: When InDesign will support Math directly?
P Spier Jul 23, 2010 6:17 AM (in response to Praveen10)What do you mean by "doing math in InDesign"?If that was what you requested, it's so vague as to be impossible to implement. For feature requests to get serious consideration you need to make it clear exactly what you wnat the feature to accomlish, and how it will benefit your workflow.
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6. Re: When InDesign will support Math directly?
[Jongware] Jul 23, 2010 6:27 AM (in response to P Spier)On the subject of Doing Math: why is it you can enter this
12.5 mm + 3
into any dialog input field, but not this?
(12.5 mm + 3)/2
Or even this:
1 + 2 + 3
(But, let's not exaggerate; I don't think there is a practical application to be able to enter
x = (a - b) * cos (t) + h * cos (t * (a - b)/b)
into measurement and position fields.)
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7. Re: When InDesign will support Math directly?
newToAS3 Jul 23, 2010 6:30 AM (in response to P Spier)I never needed this but it's true that I would certainly avoid InDesign if I was to build any complex equation scheme, but not before doing a deep search into the subject (looking for plug-ins and this kind of thing).
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8. Re: When InDesign will support Math directly?
Praveen10 Jul 23, 2010 6:42 AM (in response to newToAS3)TeX/LaTeX is available for free, why not Adobe is start working to include this option in InDesign like 3B2. 3B2 is still living only because of this TeX/LaTeX support, nothing else. Adobe, pl. start thinking and break this limitation.
Thanks,
Praveen
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9. Re: When InDesign will support Math directly?
P Spier Jul 23, 2010 7:08 AM (in response to [Jongware])[Jongware] wrote:
On the subject of Doing Math: why is it you can enter this
12.5 mm + 3
into any dialog input field, but not this?
(12.5 mm + 3)/2
Or even this:
1 + 2 + 3
(But, let's not exaggerate; I don't think there is a practical application to be able to enter
x = (a - b) * cos (t) + h * cos (t * (a - b)/b)
into measurement and position fields.)
Indesign is only what, ten years old? How may ten-year-olds do you know who can do complex chained math operations without stopping to make intermediate totals? There are days I can't do it.
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10. Re: When InDesign will support Math directly?
[Jongware] Jul 23, 2010 7:46 AM (in response to Praveen10)TeX/LaTeX is available for free, why not Adobe is start working to include this option in InDesign ...
Make it freely available?
Back On Topic, though. Mathematic typesetting is a niche market -- Michael Ninness considers footnotes a niche market, and there are lots more books with footnotes than there are with equations.
Currently, our office is creating equations directly in InDesign (using tables, text frames, and whatnot), or in Illustrator (where you can *everything*, but with the price of losing coherence), or "not at all" (printing a supplied Word file to PDF and placing that directly into ID). We are looking at alternatives such as MathMagic and i.t.i.p.'s InMath, but only half-serious, as the price of either hardly warrants purchase for the (perhaps) two or three times a year we need it.
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11. Re: When InDesign will support Math directly?
march67 Dec 30, 2010 10:03 AM (in response to P Spier)I think what he means (I could be wrong) is doing math in dialog boxes like Quark can do.
Example:
I have a box that is currently 5.25" wide, but I need to make it 1 and 5/16 larger.
In quark all I have to do in the Measurements palette (where it currently says 5.25") is make an addition to whats already there so it looks like this:
5.25+1+5/16, and it "does the math" and gives me a box dimension of 6.562.
Note that in the above I mixed decimal points with fractions and it still figures it out. Whether you combine inches with metric with with picas and points, it figures it all out - with fractions. InDesign cannot do this.
This may seem trivial, but I actually used this in Quark all the time.
I can still get results in InDesign, but I need to bust out a calculator first to figure out what the decimal equivalent is for my fraction measurement.
InDesign is a powerful program, it should figure this out for me like Quark does, and im surprised that a simple fraction brings its ability to a halt.
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12. Re: When InDesign will support Math directly?
Ramesh Sapkota Jan 1, 2011 6:24 AM (in response to Praveen10)I use Microsoft Word to do all equation jobs especially Math books. But I think at least InCopy should support equations. I mean Mathtype. 1 day InDesign wil l be forced to include equation.
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13. Re: When InDesign will support Math directly?
minicooper5 Apr 19, 2011 8:54 AM (in response to [Jongware])[Jongware]-GfBROo wrote:
Back On Topic, though. Mathematic typesetting is a niche market -- Michael Ninness considers footnotes a niche market, and there are lots more books with footnotes than there are with equations.
Currently, our office is creating equations directly in InDesign (using tables, text frames, and whatnot), or in Illustrator (where you can *everything*, but with the price of losing coherence), or "not at all" (printing a supplied Word file to PDF and placing that directly into ID). We are looking at alternatives such as MathMagic and i.t.i.p.'s InMath, but only half-serious, as the price of either hardly warrants purchase for the (perhaps) two or three times a year we need it.
I work with Math textbooks and the three that I have created so far have only used tables, text frames, etc. So far I have been able to create everything I need in InDesign. I do not work with complicated algebraic or scientific equations, but I do create fractions, long division, graphs, and charts. The plugins are too unwieldy for my authors and it's more convenient for me to be able to edit my equations, fractions, etc. in InDesign. The plugins just don't seem worth the hassle.I'd like some magical way to do all these math typesetting things in InDesign, but I can't think of a practical way to implement any of it other than how I jury-rig things now.



