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1. Re: Elements 7 with Windows 7???
captaincranky Jul 15, 2010 11:20 AM (in response to BerntRydgren)PSE-7 will run under Windows 7 from a clean install of the program. Now, you're talking about "upgrading to Windows 7", and under these circumstances anything can happen. Different people report different experiences, I have two slightly different ones myself, but both installations work.
Windows 7 has a different folder structure than XP, and perhaps Vista as well. This is accomodated during the install process, as Win 7 guides programs with older installation locations towards its new ones.
My suggestion is to uninstall PSE-7, then reinstall it clean. By clean I mean with nothing else running, and the AV program shut down.
I suspect that you didn't bother to recover, optimize your catalog, or create a backup before the "upgrade to Win 7". It's possible that this could come back to haunt you by creating the need to reimport your collection. Since that last statement is probably going to generate some hysteria for you, you might as well wait for a second opinion
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2. Re: Elements 7 with Windows 7???
BerntRydgren Jul 15, 2010 10:43 PM (in response to captaincranky)Thanks, but all that is already done, no cigar. The only possible "issue"
here is what you mean by AV program? I shut everything down except Windows
itself and then uninstall and reinstall PSE7, but this doesn't help. As for
the recover, backup etc., - yes indeed, I did, but that doesn't help as long
as Edit doesn't work? I do NOT normally utilise any other function than
"Full Edit", but ALL OTHER FUNCTIONS work, it's just the full edit that
doesn't. I can go in through e.g. "Organize" and then use the light edit
version and the software actually alters the pictures, but as soon as I
choose full edit, the program shut down. So no, no hysteria, but a lot of
problems.
Bernt
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3. Re: Elements 7 with Windows 7???
Immaculens Jul 15, 2010 11:28 PM (in response to BerntRydgren)Perhaps right-click on the Photoshop Elements .exe file (in the Programs folder on C:/) and choose Properties - Compatibility - Vista.
Is your Win 64 bit or 32 bit?
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4. Re: Elements 7 with Windows 7???
captaincranky Jul 15, 2010 11:41 PM (in response to BerntRydgren)OK, by AV I mean your security software, be it Norton, MaCafee, or any other program of this type you may have installed.
Beyond that, I'm more than a bit stumped. I've done 2 installations of PSE-7 in Windows 7, one into Win 7 Home Premium 32 bit, the other into Windows 7 Pro 64 bit. Admittedly the Win Home Premium installation is a bit quirky, but the catalog has 200,00 images stored, so I grant it a bit of latitude.
In Win 7 Pro, I have it installed along with PSCS-4 and that program is has ingratiated itself into the edit menu as it should.
You weren't specifity as to the upgrade path you took to Win 7. If you did take the upgrade route, this might possibly be the source of the problem. In my case, both OSes were installed from full editions of Win 7, and onto brand new HDDs.
Have you attemped to change the compatibility mode for the program yet? You can also reach compatibility mode settings through "Control Panel" > "Action Center" "Trouble Shooting".
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5. Re: Elements 7 with Windows 7???
BerntRydgren Jul 16, 2010 2:16 PM (in response to Immaculens)Thanks for the tip! Good idea, but unfortunately didn't help. Mine is the
64-bit version, and I agree with your thought when you read that response -
I think THIS IS THE ACTUAL PROBLEM. I simply think it'll never work - if it
were possible, Adobe would have a fix out, and the very fact that they don't
(nor has a single comment about this issue on their web site) means they are
thoroughly embarrassed about it, as they should be. Given that PSE 8 came
with just about NO (actual useful) improvements over version 7, I will wait
until PSE 9 comes out.
Thanks for your effort!
Cheers,
Bernt
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6. Re: Elements 7 with Windows 7???
BerntRydgren Jul 16, 2010 2:24 PM (in response to captaincranky)On the last issue, yes - and since there (for obvious reasons) only are
versions as far as Vista SP2, I struck out again....
I have an upgrade version of Windows 7 and do not have the opportunity to do
the full install. Reason - the very one that the greedy bastards sold lots
of computers in mid-2009 with the promise of an "included" upgrade, which in
my case proved to be a one-machine specific upgrade only workable on Fujitsu
computers. It's a Home Premium which I run in the 64-bit version. I suppose
I'll just wait until I can by PSE 9 (which hopefully will prove an actual
improvement over version 7 feature-wise) or until any of the kids get tired
of running terrible Vista on theirs, and demand a full-version Windows 7 in
the house...
Thanks for trying to help, I really appreciate it!
Bernt
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7. Re: Elements 7 with Windows 7???
captaincranky Jul 16, 2010 9:24 PM (in response to BerntRydgren)Brent, why don't you look through Mr. Ellis' page on PSE problems: http://www.johnrellis.com/psedbtool/photoshop-elements-faq.htm#Try_Adobes_gen%20eric_troub leshooting perhaps there's something there that might help.
In any event, Adobe doesn't support any version of PSE on Windows 7 except PSE-8 so don't hold any false hope for a solution from them. Updates are pretty much off the table, they're more "rebuy" oriented. "A new version, a new set of bugs, that's our stand"!
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8. Re: Elements 7 with Windows 7???
BerntRydgren Jul 16, 2010 9:25 PM (in response to captaincranky)Again, thanks - I will get to that one later today.
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9. Re: Elements 7 with Windows 7???
BerntRydgren Jul 17, 2010 8:19 AM (in response to captaincranky)Just to let you know - 11 hours later, I think I know the problem - the file
lxbatwds.ds which for some reason still resided on my computer (some sort of
incomplete uninstall) from my former printer. Why this file screws up the
editor of PSE 7 I will never know, but it did. I have now opened my first
picture file in the Editor since upgrading to Win7 in March.....
Again, thanks for your efforts,
Bernt
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10. Re: Elements 7 with Windows 7???
captaincranky Jul 17, 2010 8:42 AM (in response to BerntRydgren)Glad to hear you're up and running! In a round about way, your problem is attributable to the upgrade to Win 7, as opposed to a "clean". install. The reformat would have eliminated the file in question, but I suppose we can't blame M$ for generating the problem. But, on the other hand, I suppose we wouldn't have learned anything in the process.
Here's a link for (free) software; http://www.techspot.com/downloads/4245-revo-uninstaller.html which you may find very useful in the future.
Again, glad to hear all is well, and have fun.
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11. Re: Elements 7 with Windows 7???
BerntRydgren Jul 18, 2010 1:05 AM (in response to captaincranky)Thanks!
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12. Re: Elements 7 with Windows 7???
Priyanka_Azad Aug 7, 2010 12:32 AM (in response to BerntRydgren)You can log bugs/fature requests for Photoshop Elements here ~
You can log feature requests at: https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform
and
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13. Re: Elements 7 with Windows 7???
BrianKirsch Aug 7, 2010 9:14 AM (in response to BerntRydgren)Be warned - Elements 7 does not work correctly with 64 bit version of Windows 7. I have a brand new HP desktop with very hig spec and it simply will not create WMV slide shows. Each time I try it simply hangs. Also when running the preview, there is just a black screen ( although sound can be heard). I also have a laptop running XP Pro, and this works fine.
Get your act together Adobe.
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14. Re: Elements 7 with Windows 7???
dj_paige Aug 7, 2010 2:27 PM (in response to BrianKirsch)And how do you know that this error is caused by 64bit Windows 7?
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15. Re: Elements 7 with Windows 7???
BrianKirsch Aug 8, 2010 12:02 AM (in response to dj_paige)I suppose I cannot be 100% certain. However, the set ups on the two
computers is very similar - the other software (including anti virus) is much the same. The desktop
is a much higher spec machine with 64 bit WIndows 7 8GB RAM and an i7 processor
. The main difference bewteen the two is the operating system. PE7 works fine
on the XP Pro machine (and on my old desktop) ,and other functions I have used in PE7 are fine in WIndows 7, but it will not create a wmv slide show - gets stuck on 0% and isn't going anywhere whilst the same process on the laptop proceeds well and completes. Not sure what other conclusion I can come to but that PSE7 is not 100% compatible with Windows 7. Of course it may not be because it is a 64 bit installation, but some other problem with Windows 7.
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16. Re: Elements 7 with Windows 7???
captaincranky Aug 10, 2010 3:09 PM (in response to Priyanka_Azad)funky_editor wrote:
You can log bugs/fature requests for Photoshop Elements here ~
You can log feature requests at: ....[ ]....
and
bugs at .....[ ]...http://www.adobe.com/misc/bugreport.htmlIf you don't mind me asking, what exactly good do you think that will do?
Adobe already "fixed" all the bugs they intend to in PSE-7, and they call it PSE-8. Then for good measure they have injected some new bugs into that. Meanwhile they'll try to humor people asking for new features in PSE-9. Yeah, you'll get your "new features", along with an even more bloated pig of a program and a new set of bugs. The programmers in some 3rd world slum are just waiting to humor you, and respond to your every little whim.
There never are any real "updates" from Adobe on older versions of PSE. All the Adober "Updater" does, is generate advertising messages. Get your head out of your ***, that's not an "updater" it's ADWARE...! And, it's adware that you can't even shut down with Windows "Task Manager", since if you do, the program crashes. >>> Adobe wants to "updater" you out of another hundred bucks, period.
Now, many people, (including myself), have responded to these threads about whether or not PSE-7 will run under Win 7, it does, (sort of). Just be prepared for your own little personal "bug surprise".
Then there's "Plan "B"...! Buy a copy of Windows 7, and install "XP Mode", then install PSE-7 into that. A couple hundred bucks will end your misery! Or will it?
I have installed PSE-7 into 2 Windows 7 Machines. The Windows 7 Pro 64 bit installation, (i3-530 4GB RAM), is the only one that will generate a set thumnails without having to go out for a beer while it does. And, it has the same problems as the 32 bit Win 7 installation.So, I'm thinking you can't really blame the 64 bit OS for any woes with the program. Windows installs 32 bit programs into an x86 (32 bit) folder, and runs them as such anyway. So, if there's problems, it's more likely that the problem is with the device drivers



