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1. Re: New lens profiles only for RAW???
clvrmnky Sep 2, 2010 5:13 AM (in response to jacksdecoy)Lightroom is primarily a raw workflow tool, and the lens profiling is courtesy Adobe Camera Raw, so it would not surprise me.
But a quick test with JPEGs directly from a point-and-shoot shows that you can apply arbitrary lens profiles all you like.
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2. Re: New lens profiles only for RAW???
Lee Jay-ZyZk56 Sep 2, 2010 5:47 AM (in response to jacksdecoy)The problem is, the in-camera processing done on JPEGs can substantially alter the nature of the *needed* profile. For example, many camera can now do internal vignetting correction and some even do internal CA correction. But they can be turned on and off. How should a *lens* profile handle that? Make a separate one for every possible camera that might use that lens and every possible combination of settings the user might select on each of those cameras?
It's a big problem for non-raw profiles.
That said, I've previously posted how to convert raw profiles so they'll work, at least so some extent, on JPEGs.
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3. Re: New lens profiles only for RAW???
jacksdecoy Sep 2, 2010 1:00 PM (in response to clvrmnky)I understand what you are saying. I know my body does not correct distortion so I should be able to use it for that. The profiles in LR 3.2 are not available in the drop down list when I am editing JPGs. How can I convert them or enable them?
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4. Re: New lens profiles only for RAW???
clvrmnky Sep 2, 2010 2:22 PM (in response to jacksdecoy)Odd. Works for me if I enable corrections. I can force all sorts of nonsense corrections on a JPEG that has no raw counterpart anywhere. Does the process version come into play for non-raw images?
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5. Re: New lens profiles only for RAW???
jacksdecoy Sep 2, 2010 7:08 PM (in response to clvrmnky)I'm not sure you are getting the question I am asking.
I use lens profiles as of Lightroom 3. I even made one of my own because Adobe didn't release one for my lens (Nikkor 16-85) but now that Adobe has released one, I'd like to use it instead. Sure, I can enable corrections in 3.2. But the only profiles available to me are then ones that came with LR3.0. I am certain I am running the latest release of 3.2. When I load up an NEF however, the corrections thing correctly identifies my lens and applies the correction. When I load up a JPG, the same thing doesn't happen, it says it could not automatically locate a matching profile. Even if I try to manually choose a profile, the lens profile just doesn't show up in the list like it does for NEFs. So I am complaining that if they made them for JPGs for some lenses in LR3.0, why didn't they make them for JPGs in LR3.2?
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6. Re: New lens profiles only for RAW???
Lee Jay-ZyZk56 Sep 2, 2010 7:12 PM (in response to jacksdecoy)jacksdecoy wrote:
I understand what you are saying. I know my body does not correct distortion so I should be able to use it for that. The profiles in LR 3.2 are not available in the drop down list when I am editing JPGs. How can I convert them or enable them?
You'll have to copy them to a new filename (I replace "raw" with "non-raw") and then edit all the tags in the file that look like this:
<stCamera:CameraRawProfile>True</stCamera:CameraRawProfile>
Change them all to False, and they'll work, albeit in a somewhat degraded fashion, on JPEGs.
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7. Re: New lens profiles only for RAW???
jacksdecoy Sep 2, 2010 7:19 PM (in response to Lee Jay-ZyZk56)I don't even know where they are stored on my mac. When I look where I put the one I made, that's the only one there. Can you point me to the location of the built-in lens profiles on a mac?
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8. Re: New lens profiles only for RAW???
Lee Jay-ZyZk56 Sep 2, 2010 7:28 PM (in response to jacksdecoy)Nope...I only know where they are on PCs.
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9. Re: New lens profiles only for RAW???
Lee Jay-ZyZk56 Sep 2, 2010 7:31 PM (in response to Lee Jay-ZyZk56)It turns out that it says in the ALPC user guide:
/Library/Application Support/Adobe/CameraRaw/LensProfiles/1.0
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10. Re: New lens profiles only for RAW???
jacksdecoy Sep 2, 2010 8:34 PM (in response to Lee Jay-ZyZk56)Thanks Lee. Unfortunately, that is where you store your self created ones. Not the built-in ones. I saved the one I created in there, but that's the only thing there.
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11. Re: New lens profiles only for RAW???
Lee Jay-ZyZk56 Sep 3, 2010 5:45 AM (in response to jacksdecoy)According to the manual, that's where they are. I don't have access to a mac anywhere to check myself. The location for user-generated profiles is simi
lar but with your username and users up front.
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12. Re: New lens profiles only for RAW???
clvrmnky Sep 3, 2010 6:09 AM (in response to jacksdecoy)So, you want new lens profiles without installing 3.2, or you want to download them from some place and install them yourself? I didn't really get that from your description.
You should never put user stuff in /Library. Maybe you assumed ~/Library? However, the default profiles are all in there:
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clvrmnky@thor:/Library/Application Support/Adobe/CameraRaw/LensProfiles/1.0 $ pwd
/Library/Application Support/Adobe/CameraRaw/LensProfiles/1.0
clvrmnky@thor:/Library/Application Support/Adobe/CameraRaw/LensProfiles/1.0 $ ls
Apple Nikon Samsung Sigma Tamron
Canon Pentax Schneider Sony Zeiss
clvrmnky@thor:/Library/Application Support/Adobe/CameraRaw/LensProfiles/1.0 $ ls Nikon/
COOLPIX P6000 (Nikon 6-24mm f2.7-5.9) - RAW.lcp
COOLPIX P6000 (Nikon 6-24mm f2.7-5.9).lcp
NIKON D3 (Nikon AF-S VR Micro-Nikkor 105mm f2.8G IF-ED) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D300S (Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-70mm f3.5-4.5G IF-ED) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3X (Nikon AF NIKKOR 35mm f2D) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3X (Nikon AF NIKKOR 50mm f1.4D) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3X (Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 16-35mm f4G ED VR) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3X (Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 50mm f1.4G) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3X (Nikon AF-S Zoom-Nikkor 17-35mm f2.8D IF-ED) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3X (Nikon FX 14-24mm f2.8 G ED) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3X (Nikon FX 14-24mm f2.8 G ED).lcp
NIKON D3X (Nikon FX 16mm f2.8 D) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3X (Nikon FX 16mm f2.8 D).lcp
NIKON D3X (Nikon FX 24-70mm f2.8 G ED) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3X (Nikon FX 24-70mm f2.8 G ED).lcp
NIKON D3X (Nikon FX 50mm f1.8 D) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3X (Nikon FX 50mm f1.8 D).lcp
NIKON D3X (Nikon FX 70-200mm f2.8 G IF ED) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3X (Nikon FX 70-200mm f2.8 G IF ED).lcp
NIKON D3X (Sigma DG 12-24mm f4.5-5.6 EX HSM) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3X (Sigma DG 12-24mm f4.5-5.6 EX HSM).lcp
NIKON D3X (Sigma DG 15mm f2.8 EX) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3X (Sigma DG 15mm f2.8 EX).lcp
NIKON D3X (Sigma DG 8mm f3.5 EX) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3X (Sigma DG 8mm f3.5 EX).lcp
NIKON D700 (Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 70-200mm f2.8G ED VR II) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D700 (Nikon FX 70-300mm f4.5-5.6 G IF-ED VR) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D90 (Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 16-85mm f3.5-5.6G ED VR) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D90 (Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 35mm f1.8G) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D90 (Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-NIKKOR 17-55mm f2.8G IF-ED) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D90 (Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 12-24mm f4G IF-ED) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D90 (Nikon DX 10.5mm f2.8 G ED) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D90 (Nikon DX 10.5mm f2.8 G ED).lcp
NIKON D90 (Nikon DX 18-200mm f3.5-5.6 G ED IF) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D90 (Nikon DX 18-200mm f3.5-5.6 G ED IF).lcp
NIKON D90 (Sigma DC 18-200mm f3.5-6.3) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D90 (Sigma DC 18-200mm f3.5-6.3).lcp
NIKON D90 (Sigma DC 4.5mm f2.8 HSM) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D90 (Sigma DC 4.5mm f2.8 HSM).lcp
clvrmnky@thor:/Library/Application Support/Adobe/CameraRaw/LensProfiles/1.0 $
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You can see the new 50/f1.4 Nikkor lens in there, released with 3.2.
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13. Re: New lens profiles only for RAW???
jacksdecoy Sep 3, 2010 9:20 AM (in response to clvrmnky)Jay! Thank you so much! I did have 3.2 installed and I was able to convert them. I was looking in the user/ directory instead of the root. I find it a little weird that Adobe only made raw versions for the new profiles while they made both raw and non-raw ones with the original profiles.

