11 Replies Latest reply: Sep 10, 2010 12:11 PM by Jacob Bugge RSS

    Your Adobe Forums content has been removed?

    Skullmaker Community Member

      I wonder why Adobe removed this thread from the forum: Re: Will CS5 have the same memory issues as past versions?

       

      If you go the address you get an error: http://forums.adobe.com/message/2799324#2799324

       

      Does any one knows why it was removed? Anyone from Adobe can give an explanation? Thank you in advance!

        • 1. Re: Your Adobe Forums content has been removed?
          Userbak610 Community Member

          You should post this question in the forum comments area.

          • 2. Re: Your Adobe Forums content has been removed?
            Jacob Bugge CommunityMVP

            Hans,

             

            I assume the thread was in this forum; I believe I must have overlooked it. What was it about?

             

            As Usebak says, you will have to ask here: http://forums.adobe.com/community/general/forum_comments

             

            Normally such questions get answered there, although sometimes rather bluntly.

             

            Generally, it seems that moderator(s), formerly known in the forums as hosts, decide on posts and threads, more often than do Adobe administrators.

            • 3. Re: Your Adobe Forums content has been removed?
              Monika Gause CommunityMVP

              Type this question into Google and click on the first result. Maybe you got the wrong Thread-ID?

              • 4. Re: Your Adobe Forums content has been removed?
                Skullmaker Community Member

                Hello Monika,

                 

                I did the search on Google, and yes the Thread-ID was changed: http://forums.adobe.com/thread/634323

                 

                Interesting enough some of my facts posted were deleted. If you look at this new modified Thread, Tarzeck (user whom post the thread) is thanking you and me. But my set of facts were deleted. In short, it looks that Tarzeck is responding me before my post.

                 

                Deleted.jpg

                 

                It appears Adobe does not want people to read the facts about its programs? The opinion of professional about Illustrator CS5 were not very good for Adobe; is this why my post was deleted?

                 

                I just want to know if are we getting censored.

                • 5. Re: Your Adobe Forums content has been removed?
                  Skullmaker Community Member

                  Hello Jacob,

                   

                  Here is what I wrote and it appears Adobe does not want people to read:

                   

                  **********************************************

                  Some critics said that If you have CS4, there is no reason to update to CS5, unless you specific work will use the few new features constantly.

                  We have had the 64-Bit technology for years now, but Adobe is not good enough to take advantage of it. What is the point of having a great and fast computer when the program does not keep up? Is like having a Ferrari sitting in traffic.

                  We know that Adobe have not provided an update or patch for over 4 years. Which means, whatever you buy, it wont be fix. (Adobe did not fix the Memory Bug reported during the first week after its released)
                  http://forums.adobe.com/thread/488095?tstart=660

                  I am not sure if the memory Bug is fix in CS5 versions; however, here are the bugs found in the first weeks of its released:


                  *CS5 Bugs:*
                  Table Pen pressure Bug: http://forums.adobe.com/thread/632311?tstart=0
                  CS Live Tool Bar Bug: http://forums.adobe.com/thread/628945?tstart=60
                  Saving Files in to a network Bug: http://forums.adobe.com/thread/632632?tstart=0
                  Exporting to Photoshop Bug: http://forums.adobe.com/thread/629182?tstart=60
                  Selection Path Bug: http://forums.adobe.com/thread/632840?tstart=0
                  Font Bug: http://forums.adobe.com/thread/631831?tstart=0
                  No 64-bit: http://forums.adobe.com/thread/631431?tstart=60 *(this is inexcusable)*
                  Cut and Paste Bug: http://forums.adobe.com/thread/630169?tstart=90
                  Installer Bug: http://forums.adobe.com/message/2783375#2783375 *(Can you believe this! The Installer!)*
                  Symbol Sprayer Tool Bug: http://forums.adobe.com/thread/633525?tstart=0


                  So the question is how frustrate you will be when you have to work with these bugs plus the ones uncover yet?

                  The decision is yours. Good luck!

                   

                  **********************************************

                  Jacob, I hope you can read this before it gets censored for containing facts.

                  • 6. Re: Your Adobe Forums content has been removed?
                    Monika Gause CommunityMVP

                    Skullmaker wrote:

                     

                    So the question is how frustrate you will be when you have to work with these bugs plus the ones uncover yet?

                     

                    Have you tried? I can only tell for me and I am not at all frustrated.

                     

                    As for the editing of posts you guess: I don't know.

                    And if it were so - nobody knows why it was edited. I guess you have read at least some of JET's posts around here. He gets to the point pretty often. Regarding that I wouldn't yell "Censorship" in this forum.

                    • 7. Re: Your Adobe Forums content has been removed?
                      Mylenium CommunityMVP

                      It appears Adobe does not want people to read the facts about its programs?

                       

                      Not sure and please don't take this personally, but you have a tendency to call everything a bug even if it's just the result of specific circumstances, oftentimes not in the control of Adobe (like the tablet issues for instance), so "facts" is probably too high a claim on your part. Don't get this the wrong way: I'm just as frustrated with Illustrator, Photoshop, Dreamweaver, After Effects, Flash, AME, Encore etc. as much as the next guy, but I'm too deeply involved in software development to dismiss everything as a bug just like you do. I mean, "No 64bit" clearly is not a bug, it's a feature request and if you think Adobe could have made it in CS5, then you are probably wrong. Unlike publicly propagated myths have it, it doesn't mean just flipping a switch in your compiler to get a working 64bit software... Anyway, I see no reason why we need yet more such threads. As has become clear from the recent arrowhead thread, Adobe is not interested in our opinions, so here we are, just wasting our breath...

                       

                      Mylenium

                      • 8. Re: Your Adobe Forums content has been removed?
                        Jacob Bugge CommunityMVP

                        Hans,

                         

                        As far as I know, deletion of posts/threads anywhere in these forums are based upon either of two:

                         

                        a) Reports in a public thread (series, we are at no 4 now, I have contributed to all of them over the years) mostly dealing with spam (hence the short present name, which was longer in the old days, but still expressly covering spam messages and other inappropriate content), the Spam Report thread, http://forums.adobe.com/thread/580555?start=100&tstart=0; normally the offending posts/threads are just removed; I have just had a look round the time of the deletion, and nothing is mentioned there;

                         

                        b) Use of the anonymous Report Abuse link, which is uncanningly close to the Reply link for every post in every thread; as far as I know, the poster is informed by email about the Abuse Report and its outcome.

                         

                        In either case, a volunteer moderator (more rarely an Adobe administrator) will have a look and decide the fate of the post/thread; for the Illy forum I believe it would be someone not actually taking part here, the last host being Len who retired years ago.

                         

                        The lack of its being mentioned in the Spam thread rules out a), but your having heard nothing of it seems to rule out b).

                         

                        So the questions of what happened and why may remain unanswered, unless you can get an answer in the Forum Comments forum.

                        • 9. Re: Your Adobe Forums content has been removed?
                          Skullmaker Community Member

                          Hi Mylenium,

                           

                          I do not think Illustrator not running 64bit is a bug. It is rather disappointing.

                           

                          When David Macy (Product Manager of Adobe Illustrator CS5) told me Adobe will release a patch for Illustrator CS5 (which Adobe did) I said that if that were the case I will not write negative comments about Adobe (even if CS5 will still contains some bugs after the patch). I can see that Adobe is taking responsibility and with that my comments are not longer valid.

                           

                          The purpose of this thread is to know why comments back then were censored. For what I understand thanks to you and Jacob, the problem  is the volunteer moderator, and not Adobe.

                           

                          I will take this moment to thank David Macy because he kept his promised and because he is moving Illustrator forward again. I hope the icon preview bug will be fix in CS6 that I will consider to purchase.

                           

                          Thank you Mylenium!

                          • 10. Re: Your Adobe Forums content has been removed?
                            Skullmaker Community Member

                            Thank you Jacob!

                             

                            You explanation it the answer to my question. Adobe has nothing to do with this censorship, I guess the file will be filed with the "X Files"

                             

                            Thank you for your time to respond my inquiry!

                            • 11. Re: Your Adobe Forums content has been removed?
                              Jacob Bugge CommunityMVP

                              You are welcome, Hans.