17 Replies Latest reply: Apr 14, 2014 5:53 PM by basejumper31 RSS

    Go-Pro Helmet Cam Footage Editing Tips

    Bill Hunt CommunityMVP
    Bill Hunt Jun 26, 2010 11:23 AM

      This was graciously provided by Gonza, and I hope that it helps others:

       

      Editing GoPro HD with Premiere Pro CS4

      Introduction

      GoProHD has many different resolutions, all of them progressive scan (p) with square pixels, titled R1 to R5. It records in MP4 files, using H.264 video (AVC) and AAC audio. 

      Here I will address R2 to R5:

      R2 = 1280 x 720 30p (widescreen 16:9)

      R3 =  1280 x 720 60p (widescreen 16:9)

      R4 =  1280 x 960 30p (standard 4:3)

      R5 = 1920 x 1080 30p (widescreen 16:9)

       

      Preparation of files

      It seems Premiere Pro CS4 does not like the way GoPro builds the MP4 container. So you have to re-write it so that it has a more standard form. You can do that using MPEG Streamclip (or Quictime Pro, but that one is not free)

      http://www.squared5.com/

      If you open  your GoPro videos in MPEG Streamclip (or Quicktime Pro) , and then you just save them again ("save as... MP4") , then the MP4 container will be re-written but the video will not be re-encoded (hence, there will be no quality loss!)

      You can also process many files at once, using the batch feature: Just go to List>Batch List and start adding files. Then as task, choose “save as”.

       

      Sequence Preset

      Now that you have all your files converted, we need to pick the right project sequence preset  for the resolution you are working on, all of them based on AVCHD

      ·         For R2 choose AVCHD 720p30

      ·         For R3 use AVCHD 720p60

      ·         For R4 you will need to create a custom profile, because there is no built-in profile for this resolution: Select AVCHD 1080p30 and then go to the General tab. Change Editing Mode to Desktop, so  you will be able to modify the resolution. Change the resolution to 1280 x 960 and then press the Save Preset  button to save your newly created sequence profile for GoPro R4

      ·         For R5 use AVCHD 1080p30

       

      Export

      After all your editing (using the modified MP4 files) you will want to export your final product.

      I usually export  in meg2 or MP4 files, for direct use on my PC,  but you can try many others.

      ·         For MP4 files (H.264 video and AAC audio) choose “H.264” as format.  I started out with the HDTV 1080p 29.97 High Quality profile but the bitrate was too high for me.  So I set out to create a bunch of MP4 export presets for the GoPro, doing some tests and trying to preserve the  aprox. bit-rate that GoPro uses for each resolution.

      I did them with the Baseline ecoder profile, but you can change it if you want to to use other.

      There’s one normal profile and one “low” profile for each resoultion. The “low” one will have a lower video bit rate and 64kbps AAC audio (instead of 128 kbps)

       

      ·         For Mpeg 2 files choose MPEG2 format (nahh!! really?? J )

      For R2 and R5 you can use the corresponding HDTV profiles, but for R3 and R4 I had to create them myself.

       

      To install my profiles just extract them from the archive zip file , and copy them to:

      C:\Documents and Settings\YOUR_USERNAME\Application Data\Adobe\Premiere Pro\4.0\Presets

      Then they will automatically appear under the MPE2 and H.264 formats.

       

      Enjoy!

      Gonza

        • 1. Re: Go-Pro Helmet Cam Footage Editing Tips
          Gonzchi Community Member
          Gonzchi Jun 28, 2010 11:24 AM (in response to Bill Hunt)

          Thank you Bill


          Here is the link to the export profiles mentioned in the article

           

          http://www.megaupload.com/?d=50HIM75U

           

          Gonza

          • 2. Re: Go-Pro Helmet Cam Footage Editing Tips
            u2metoo@ Community Member
            u2metoo@ Sep 22, 2010 6:16 PM (in response to Bill Hunt)

            ...thanks for the workflow.

            • 3. Re: Go-Pro Helmet Cam Footage Editing Tips
              Bill Hunt CommunityMVP
              Bill Hunt Sep 22, 2010 6:44 PM (in response to u2metoo@)

              The thank yous go to Gonza, who did the "heavy lifting."

               

              There was an article in a recent edition of American Cinematographer, on using the GoPro cameras for some action shots. I'd guess that it was about the August edition, but sent my copy to a friend, so cannot check.

               

              Hunt

              • 4. Re: Go-Pro Helmet Cam Footage Editing Tips
                u2metoo@ Community Member
                u2metoo@ Jan 27, 2011 1:08 PM (in response to Bill Hunt)

                I've been playing with my Gopro for a while now, and thanks to Hunt's guidance it has been brought to my attention that I have been using the wrong PAR the whole time.  I commented above just so I could come back to this thread and review the workflow.

                 

                First issue:

                I've been editing the raw footage from my camera without uncompressing even changing the container, and my PC seems to digest it just fine.   As far as I can tell, I'm not losing any quality.   Am I missing out anything, but not doing this step?

                 

                Second issue:

                I'm using PE 4, and I don't (think??? I) have the ADVHC preset for 720 60p.  The 720 30p works, but am I missing out on having this PAR mismatch?  I suppose my slow mo shoots will certainly suffer, but they look addequate right now on my youtube vids.

                 

                I hestitate to upgrade at the moment, because I figure I'd do that when I get a new camera.

                • 5. Re: Go-Pro Helmet Cam Footage Editing Tips
                  Bill Hunt CommunityMVP
                  Bill Hunt Jan 27, 2011 5:19 PM (in response to u2metoo@)

                  I only hope that Gonza will drop by, or someone, who knows the Go-Pro footage, and comment. I have never experimented with any of the footage, and only did the setup for this article, based on Gonza's experiences and expertise.

                   

                  I do not think that PrE 4.0 has an AVCHD Preset, but only HDV, which is different. In most cases, HD material is square pixel, but there are a few exceptions. Not sure what the PAR of the Go-Pro footage is, and it might change, model to model.

                   

                  Good luck,

                   

                  Hunt

                  • 6. Re: Go-Pro Helmet Cam Footage Editing Tips
                    BBruins12 Community Member
                    BBruins12 Aug 19, 2011 9:51 AM (in response to Bill Hunt)

                    I'll definitely mess with this when I get home...

                     

                    To ecpand on Hunt's statement: Currently GoPro only offers two models of their camera, the HD Hero, and the HD 960

                     

                    the Hero shoots full HD, and the 960 only up to 960, with the same format video...I don't know about the widescreen though.

                     

                    Hope that helps some..

                    • 7. Re: Go-Pro Helmet Cam Footage Editing Tips
                      Bill Hunt CommunityMVP
                      Bill Hunt Aug 19, 2011 10:06 AM (in response to BBruins12)

                      When you have finished your experimentation, please post your findings, as it might well help others.

                       

                      TIA,

                       

                      Hunt

                      • 8. Re: Go-Pro Helmet Cam Footage Editing Tips
                        Bill Hunt CommunityMVP
                        Bill Hunt Aug 24, 2011 8:53 AM (in response to Bill Hunt)

                        Robert Johnson posted this ARTICLE on Muvipix.com on working with the Go-Pro footage.

                         

                        Hope that this helps,

                         

                        Hunt

                         

                        PS - I have never worked with Go-Pro footage, so cannot comment on how well this works. However, Robert has been right-on with regards to nearly every post.

                        • 9. Re: Go-Pro Helmet Cam Footage Editing Tips
                          goproski Community Member
                          goproski Nov 6, 2011 4:57 PM (in response to Bill Hunt)

                          I just purchased Premiere elements 10 and I'm not able to figure out how to choose the correct presets for my GoPro HD camera footage.  I shot in the default setting which is 960p (1280 x 960) 30 frames per second.  The available presets in the software does not appear to have anything that meshes for this GoPro setting.  Does anyone have any advice on which settings to use.  Since this is a very popular camera I had thought there would be guidance on the web somewhere but after an hour of searching, I haven't been able to find anything.

                          • 10. Re: Go-Pro Helmet Cam Footage Editing Tips
                            goproski Community Member
                            goproski Dec 28, 2011 8:38 PM (in response to goproski)

                            I'm reposting/ copying Philippe V8 post which solved the GoPro setting R4 using Premiere Elements 10.  Below his post I've copied my own reply to him.  Posting both on this thread so others might find it better. 

                            Since none reported back about a hack, I will ... Might be handy for future ref.

                             

                            Here's what I did; as an example.

                             

                            Go to:

                            C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Premiere Elements 8.0\settings\SequencePresets\PAL\DV

                             

                            Copy Standard 48kHz.sqpreset

                             

                            Name it MyCompany.sqpreset

                             

                            Open it with notepad.

                             

                            changed this:

                            <VideoPixelAspectRatio>768,702</VideoPixelAspectRatio>

                            to

                            <VideoPixelAspectRatio>702,702</VideoPixelAspectRatio>

                             

                            changed this:

                            <VideoFrameSize>0,0,720,576</VideoFrameSize>

                            to

                            <VideoFrameSize>0,0,1280,960</VideoFrameSize>

                             

                            Saved the file.

                             

                            Done.

                             

                            Not sure yet if it's 100% ok now, but it does seem to work for now.

                             

                             

                            This worked for me!  The only difference is that I copied the "HD 1080i 30 (60i)" preset under C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Premiere Elements 10\Settings\SequencePresets\NTSC\Hard Disk, Flash Memory Camcorders

                            and updated the numbers as mentioned by Philippe V8.  I wasn't sure if changing the 768 to 702 in the pixel aspect ratio was correct but I did it anyway and the video turned out great. 

                            See here for the quick test run I just created:

                            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k0F0WKKPDU

                             

                            By the way, this is the preset I needed for the GoPro setting R4 which is 960p.  I can't tell you how long I struggled to try and fix this problem.  I've got a ton of footage taken at 1280 by 960 (setting R4) as this is the setting that provides the most vertical and horizontal viewing area.  Because the only "close" preset that was offered in Pre Elements 10 was 1440 x 1080, I had been using that one and all my videos had a terrible boarder around the edges.  If interested:

                            See here:

                            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVUEk59zfe0&feature=mfu_in_order&list=U L

                             

                            and here for examples of the bad boarder:

                            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSo3Xztzv8Q&feature=mfu_in_order&list=U L

                             

                            The fixed video (first one) has the boarder on the side but that's because the youtube export setting only has a 1440 (or 1920) by 1080 option.  When I export the video to my computer and use the export custom presets of 1280 by 960 it looks perfect.  In the future I'll just upload these files to youtube without using the online option in Pre Elements 10; then there should be no boarder at all.

                             

                            PhilippeV8, thanks so much for the help.  I was so frustrated and gave up several times and wanted to return the software.  Now I'm more motivated to do more editing and actually make something with all this footage I have.  thanks again!

                            • 11. Re: Go-Pro Helmet Cam Footage Editing Tips
                              Bill Hunt CommunityMVP
                              Bill Hunt Jan 2, 2012 7:29 AM (in response to goproski)

                              Thank you for that update. It will likely help others with those files.

                               

                              Appreciated,

                               

                              Hunt

                              • 12. Re: Go-Pro Helmet Cam Footage Editing Tips
                                ajermann Community Member
                                ajermann May 26, 2012 10:51 AM (in response to Bill Hunt)

                                Thank you for the Workflow you posted! I've been searching for something ike this for a long time.

                                 

                                But I still have a question. I've been filming 1280 x 720 30p and 1280 x 720 60p and I want to use them both.

                                What is the best preset to use in that case? The AVCHD 720p30 or AVCHD 720p60?

                                 

                                Thank you in advance!

                                 

                                Alex

                                • 13. Re: Go-Pro Helmet Cam Footage Editing Tips
                                  goproski Community Member
                                  goproski May 26, 2012 1:23 PM (in response to ajermann)

                                  Hi Alex, my guess would be to use 1280x720 60p as this should produce the highest quality rendering.

                                   

                                  1280 x 720 60p

                                   

                                   

                                  Sent from my iPhone

                                  • 14. Re: Go-Pro Helmet Cam Footage Editing Tips
                                    chri13386 Community Member
                                    chri13386 Jun 9, 2012 8:47 AM (in response to Bill Hunt)

                                    I don't know if i am wrong.. but it doesen't work.. could someone send me the setted project via mail for the 960?

                                     

                                    Thanks

                                    • 15. Re: Go-Pro Helmet Cam Footage Editing Tips
                                      rico19312 Community Member
                                      rico19312 Sep 6, 2012 11:24 AM (in response to Gonzchi)

                                      Does anyone have an updated link to get the profiles?

                                      • 16. Re: Go-Pro Helmet Cam Footage Editing Tips
                                        Bill Hunt CommunityMVP
                                        Bill Hunt Sep 6, 2012 2:53 PM (in response to rico19312)

                                        Nico,

                                         

                                        I would post to the appropriate Adobe product forum, say PrElements, or PrPro (depends on which Premiere you are using), and ask there. Being the Tips & Tricks sub-forum, few users will see your request for updated info here, where they WILL see it in the regular product forums, and can get you any new info.

                                         

                                        Good luck,

                                         

                                        Hunt

                                        • 17. Re: Go-Pro Helmet Cam Footage Editing Tips
                                          basejumper31 Community Member
                                          basejumper31 Apr 14, 2014 5:53 PM (in response to goproski)

                                          goproski,

                                           

                                          Above you say:

                                           

                                          " I wasn't sure if changing the 768 to 702 in the pixel aspect ratio was correct but I did it anyway and the video turned out great."

                                           

                                          I watched that video, and tbh the quality is really not great. Average at best. If you filmed in 920p it should be a lot crisper than that. You're still losing a lot of quality somewhere.

                                           

                                          I haven't figured this out myself yet either. I'm using a GoPro Hero 3+ Silver edition, editing in Premiere Elements 9, and uploading vids in a variety of setting from 1080 x 1920 @ 30fps, and some others at 720 x 1280 @ 120fps (which Elements 9 does not seem to cater for 120 fps at all, so my slow mo shots suffer).

                                           

                                          I'm considering learning to use GoPro's Cineform Studio instead, even though I've heard really bad things about it, because Premiere elements 9 seems so problematic when it comes to finding the right presets for GoPro footage.

                                           

                                          This is an example of a video I uploaded filmed in 720 x 1280 @ 120 fps, and tbh I think the quality of it is better than your linked 920p one above. Wonder what you think.

                                           

                                          One of my issues is there are sooo many options in Premiere Elements 9 that despite my efforts I sometimes can't remember how I got previous good results. Reallly frustrating!

                                           

                                          Comments and feedback welcome. Good luck with your editing dude.