15 Replies Latest reply: Oct 2, 2010 1:38 PM by marynacoetzee RSS

    Making a compliant pdf in PageMaker 6.5

    marynacoetzee

      Hi there,

      I've created a book in PageMaker 6.5 (on Windows XP) for submission to an online printer. I need to do the following: (but don't know how)

      1. I need to create a PDF file. (Using the print option, rather than the export option)

      2. The Pdf file must be "Save as" .ps (postscript) file

      3. The Postscript file must then be distilled to create a complaint PDF file that I can submit for online printing.

       

      I have the PostScript driver installed

      I have Acrobat Distiller installed

       

      Can someone help me please? I pretty much need a step by step process . . .

      Thanks,

      Maryna

        • 1. Re: Making a compliant pdf in PageMaker 6.5
          Michael Gianino Community Member

          It's been a while since I made a PDF in PageMaker, but you have it right so far. You print to a PostScript file (I used to select Acrobat as a virtual printer on Mac OS9, but I don't know what you would do in XP). You then need to create the correct "job options" in Acrobat. These specifications you will need to get from your client. There is no way for any of us to know what specs they require for the PDF to be compliant with their needs, so you need to ask them.

           

          Once you have the job options, you can either set them in Distiller, or create a watched folder in Distiller, which creates an in folder and an out folder within, and you would then drop the PostScript file into the in folder. If Distiller is running, it will see the PS file, distill it, and drop it into the out folder, along with the PS file and a log (if that's what your job options tell it to do).

           

          You may want to tell us what version of Distiller you have to get more precise instructions, but until you know what your client expects, it won't matter.

          • 2. Re: Making a compliant pdf in PageMaker 6.5
            marynacoetzee Community Member

            Thanks for helping.

            I use Distiller 9 and the printer specification is PDF/X-1:a:2001.

            I've created PDF files previously but now (after I downloaded a trial version of Photoshop CS5) some of the text inside the book is invisible.

            I'm thinking of doing a system restore to before I downloaded CS5...?  A system restore will not affect my data, right?

            I really appreciate your help.

            Thank you

            Maryna

            • 3. Re: Making a compliant pdf in PageMaker 6.5
              Michael Gianino Community Member

              Not being a Windows guy, I can't advise you about a system restore, but I know that PageMaker shipped with Distiller 3, 4 or maybe 5, so I'm guessing that it could have a problem with Distiller 9 (I've never tried it myself, but old and new technologies sometimes don't play well together). Does CS5 run under XP, or are you using the XP compatibility mode in Windows 7? There are lots of threads that talk about using PM on newer OS's, so you should consider whether that will be a problem for you.

              • 4. Re: Making a compliant pdf in PageMaker 6.5
                marynacoetzee Community Member

                Michael,

                I'm running CS5 under XP. I'm trying to uninstall CS5 now. 

                If you are saying that Distiller 9 might be the problem: I'm thinking of uninstalling that as well, in that way, I can make a pdf file with PM 6.5 - and then reinstall Distiller 9 to make the compliant PDF... is that a plan?

                I appreciate your time - thank you!

                Maryna

                • 5. Re: Making a compliant pdf in PageMaker 6.5
                  Michael Gianino Community Member

                  Maybe we're having a terminology breakdown. I don't think that the term "compliant" is a noun, but an adjective. I believe it describes the specifications that a PDF must meet to comply with the needs of your client, rather than something that anyone could examine and establish as "compliant" without knowing what it is compliant with. If that's correct, you could make a compliant PDF in many ways, but my suggestion that Distiller 9 and PageMaker 6.5 might not work well together had nothing to do with anything outside of that observation. All I know is that when PM 6.5 was coded, there was no such thing as Distiller 9, or 8 or 7 or 6 for that matter, so when these two programs have to "shake hands," all of the reaching will have to be back from Distiller 9, because PM 6.5 can't reach forward beyond what it could do when it was written. Will it work? Who knows—certainly not me. If I was going to try using 10-year-old software to fit a 9-year-old PDF spec, I might want to use a Distiller from that era as well, but maybe that's just me.

                  • 6. Re: Making a compliant pdf in PageMaker 6.5
                    marynacoetzee Community Member

                    I am not at my work computer right now... so, I can't check BUT are you saying that maybe an earlier version of Acrobat can make a PDF/X-1:a:2001 file?

                    Thanks,

                    Maryna

                    • 7. Re: Making a compliant pdf in PageMaker 6.5
                      Michael Gianino Community Member

                      I did a little digging and I can tell you that my PM 6.5 that I got in 1998 came with Distiller 3. I also looked up a little on PDF/X-1a and found that, while it is designed to take some of the guesswork out of PDF creation, it doesn't guarantee that the PDF will be as good as it can be. For example, according to what I read, there is no minimum raster image resolution required to be compliant with PDF/X-1a, so if you have a low-resolution image in your PM file, the PDF won't be any better. I only say that to warn you that what you actually do in PM will have some effect on the final PDF, and not just how you create the PostScript file and distill it. Here's a link to what I read: (click here).

                       

                      Now, whether or not Distiller 3 (which came with PM 6.5) or Distiller 7 (the first version to include PDF/X-1a profiles) or Distiller 9 would make the best PDF I can't say for sure. You may want to ask some questions over in the Acrobat forum.

                      • 8. Re: Making a compliant pdf in PageMaker 6.5
                        marynacoetzee Community Member

                        Thanks for your help.

                        I did a system restore - made the pdf - save as .ps - opened Distiller - dropped the .ps file into distiller and made a compliant pdf file.

                        The book should be in print by end of next week

                         

                        Thanks,

                        Maryna

                        • 9. Re: Making a compliant pdf in PageMaker 6.5
                          marynacoetzee Community Member

                          Michael,

                          Thank you for your time and link.

                          My boss writes a booknot for a living, more a hobbyevery so often. The

                          last one must've been about in 2003 and now his latest one. So, I'm just

                          following instructions from the printer.

                           

                          My problem is solved (I hope) and this is what I did. I did a system restore

                          to before I downloaded Photoshop CS5 and then I was able to make a complete

                          PDF copy, which I 'save(ed) as' a postscript file and used the Distiller 9

                          to make the PDF/x-1a.

                          I've submitted the file and will know by Tuesday morning if it is accepted.

                           

                          My boss is already talking about the next book and I'm thinking of switching

                          to Apple. The printer recommend InDesign, but I'm thinking that I will use

                          Word for the interior of the book and then Photoshop Elements 8 for the

                          cover.

                          Any recommendations?

                          I appreciate your help.

                          Have a joyful day,

                          Maryna

                          • 10. Re: Making a compliant pdf in PageMaker 6.5
                            BobLevine UGM-MVPs

                            Recommendations? Yes, listen to the printer!

                             

                            InDesign is the way to go.

                             

                            BTW, you should delete your personal information before replying by email. I'll delete all of that information for you.

                             

                            Bob

                            • 11. Re: Making a compliant pdf in PageMaker 6.5
                              marynacoetzee Community Member

                              Do you know how much it will cost to upgrade PM6.5 - InDesign and can I even

                              do that?

                               

                              Thanks for deleting my info, as a matter of interest: why must I delete my

                              personal information? I always thought it was a good idea to give your

                              contact information to whomever one is communicating with?

                              Have a joyful day,

                              Maryna

                              P Please consider the environment before printing this email.

                              • 12. Re: Making a compliant pdf in PageMaker 6.5
                                ReneGnam Community Member

                                Your personal info should not be posted in an Internet forum because it can be viewed by millions around the globe. They don't need to know data on you or your boss. Bob is right...don't include that info for your own protection.

                                • 13. Re: Making a compliant pdf in PageMaker 6.5
                                  BobLevine UGM-MVPs

                                  You may not be aware but when you reply via email, your post is going to the User to User forum. Putting your personal info on an internet forum is bait for spammers or worse.

                                   

                                  Adobe has a very generous upgrade policy in force for Pagemaker to InDesign. Only $199. http://amzn.to/agAIo0

                                   

                                  That's a steal and you should grab it.

                                   

                                  By moving to InDesign you'll not only be able to design for print, but to EPUB, Kindle, and the iPad as well.

                                   

                                  Bob

                                  • 14. Re: Making a compliant pdf in PageMaker 6.5
                                    marynacoetzee Community Member

                                    Bob,

                                    Ooo geezh, I was completely unable that my emails goes to the forum as well

                                    - I apologize.

                                     

                                    I'll look into InDesign - thanks for the info.

                                    Have a joyful day,

                                    Maryna

                                    • 15. Re: Making a compliant pdf in PageMaker 6.5
                                      marynacoetzee Community Member

                                      Rene,

                                      I apologize, I didn't realize that my emails get posted on the forum as

                                      well.

                                      My bad

                                      Have a joyful day,

                                      Maryna