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1. Re: Captions on in-story images?
P Spier Oct 12, 2010 1:33 PM (in response to mizzmuzikluvr)To group the image and the frame with the caption you'll need to "unanchor" the image first by selecting the frame and cutting. Paste temporarily on the pasteboard, position the caption frame, group, then cut and paste back into the text. You may need to adjust the "anchored object options" for the anchored group after pasting.
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2. Re: Captions on in-story images?
mizzmuzikluvr Oct 12, 2010 2:19 PM (in response to P Spier)Peter,
Thanks for that tip. I suppose I could go through and do that to all 80+ images.
Does that mean there is no way to Generate live captions in text that is threaded/in-story?
Kayla
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3. Re: Captions on in-story images?
P Spier Oct 12, 2010 2:23 PM (in response to mizzmuzikluvr)I'm afraid I haven't played with live captions, so I don't know the answer to that for sure, but from what you've said and what I know about other things relating to anchorted objects I would guess not. Are you able to generate the live caption for a stand-alone image?
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4. Re: Captions on in-story images?
mizzmuzikluvr Oct 13, 2010 10:22 AM (in response to P Spier)Yes, I am able to generate with other images not in the story.
Let me ask this then, is there a better way to go about this in general? I feel like I'm working AGAINST Indesign instead of with it.
What I got from my employer was a word document with images.
What they need is a saddle stitch manual with screenshots of each different section, heading, subheadings, and a table of contents. With the screenshots being labeled.
Lets say I start over. How should I complete this?
Thanks for any advice.
Kayla
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5. Re: Captions on in-story images?
P Spier Oct 13, 2010 11:04 AM (in response to mizzmuzikluvr)If you can generate the captions for images not anchored, I think that confirms that you need to unanchor the rest.
I don't see a way around anchoring the images if you want them to float with the text. Jongware wrote a script for me in CS4 that will release all anchored objects in document:
/by jongware
n = app.selection[0].textFrames.length;
while (n >= 0)
{
try {
app.selection[0].textFrames[n].anchoredObjectSettings.releaseAnchoredObject();
} catch(_) {}
n--;
}I'm not sure it will run directly in CS5, but it should work OK if you put it in a "Version 6.0 Scripts" (without the quotes) subfolder in the scripts folder and that will put you in the same position as if you hadn't imported the images as inlines. You could then add the captions, group, and paste back into the running text. Try it on a copy of the file to see what happens.
Do you know how to install and run a script?
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6. Re: Captions on in-story images?
mizzmuzikluvr Oct 13, 2010 11:32 AM (in response to P Spier)Well, thanks for the tips.
Yes, I think I know how to implement a script. Havent had success with CS5 yet, but I used to be able to.
I'll give it a whack. This whole thing is a huge mess. When you figure that the screenshots on the pages take up between 1/4 and 1/2 the page, so if they are floating with the text but dont fit on the page with the text you wind up with HUGE glaring whitespace. (see example below The new chapter is Reassign Rides) The screenshots come directly after the chapter breaks, so I suggested having each chapter start on a right page, making the glaring whitespace occur less. My employer said no, as that would add too many pages to the document.
Thanks so much for you help.
Kayla
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7. Re: Captions on in-story images?
P Spier Oct 13, 2010 1:31 PM (in response to mizzmuzikluvr)For something like this I would probably NOT anchor the images, but add a "see figure xx" cross-reference, then try to keep the images on the same spread, but allow the text to fill the page.
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8. Re: Captions on in-story images?
bjele Jun 21, 2011 4:51 AM (in response to mizzmuzikluvr)I was having the same problem with the Generate Live Caption being greyed out. While this doesn't address Kayla's problem of embedded images from Word, I am posting here in case others who are struggling with the Generate Live Caption end up here.
I did come up with a workaround in CS5, although the steps are many.
You have to add the live caption while the image is out on the pasteboard, cut, then paste into the document.
My Live Caption is set up to use the Headline tag of the image, (see: Object, Captions, Captions Setup) so the first three steps are designed to deal with that.
1. Find the image in MiniBridge. Click the image and choose Find in Bridge.
2. In Bridge, edit the meta data to add the suitable caption to the Headline tag.
3. Go back to InDesign.
4. Drag the image from MiniBridge to the pasteboard. Don't drag it to the story yet.
5. From the Object menu, choose Caption, Generate Live Caption. (Finally, it is not greyed out!) Choose Group Caption with Object.
6. Cut the object from the pasteboard.
7. Press T for Text Mode
8. Click in the story where the image should be. (I always place at the start of a paragraph to prepare for steps 10 & 11 below)
9. Paste
Success: the image and the live caption will be pasted as a group into the story.
In my case, I want a paragraph to wrap around the image and caption. These last two steps will put the image after the first full line of text in the paragraph.
10. Use Object, Anchored Object, Settings. Choose Custom from the dropdown at the top. Choose Relative to Spine. Click the Inside Top Square. For Reference Point choose Inside Middle square. X is relative to text frame. Y is relative to Baseline. Keep with Top/Bottom Boundaries. Click OK.
11. Open the Text Wrapping panel. Choose the icon for Wrap Around Bounding Box. Left is 0P2. Side is Away from Spine.
Bill



