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1. Re: IDCS5 Mac: Missing links when converting IDCS3 document from PC
P Spier Oct 15, 2010 12:58 PM (in response to Mr. Andersson)I think this has been covered by an earlier thread. You should do a forum search.
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2. Re: IDCS5 Mac: Missing links when converting IDCS3 document from PC
Mr. Andersson Oct 15, 2010 1:23 PM (in response to P Spier)I searched for missing links and such terms but found nothing like this.
The problem with your reply tho is that people reading this thinks the party is elsewhere but maybe it's not?
So I'm interested in the answer to the problem or the URL for the other thread.
Thanks.
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3. Re: IDCS5 Mac: Missing links when converting IDCS3 document from PC
P Spier Oct 15, 2010 2:12 PM (in response to Mr. Andersson)I'm afraid I'm not having any luck either in my search.
Ask the client to export the file to .inx and to give you that. Put it in the folder with tha packaged original and the links and open it in CS5.
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4. Re: IDCS5 Mac: Missing links when converting IDCS3 document from PC
Mr. Andersson Oct 15, 2010 2:21 PM (in response to P Spier)The thing is this client did all their work in-house for 2-3 years, then came the big recession... maybe you heard about it?
So they have since closed their in-house studio. They still needed work done of course so we took over all their files on DVD and here we are now. I suppose resaving as .inx on a PC would help but I might as well open with CS3 on the Mac. But CS5 should of course be able to open a file if CS3 knows how.
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5. Re: IDCS5 Mac: Missing links when converting IDCS3 document from PC
BobLevine Oct 15, 2010 2:25 PM (in response to Mr. Andersson)If you have the CS3 package, move all the links to the same folder as the INDD file.
Then open the INDD file.
Bob
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6. Re: IDCS5 Mac: Missing links when converting IDCS3 document from PC
Mr. Andersson Oct 15, 2010 2:29 PM (in response to BobLevine)huh? Did you read the start?
I can open these files with CS3 no problem without moving anything. Or was that a typo? Did you mean move links then open with CS5?
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7. Re: IDCS5 Mac: Missing links when converting IDCS3 document from PC
P Spier Oct 15, 2010 2:38 PM (in response to Mr. Andersson)I think we need some clarification on where thes links actually are located. Were the files packaged in CS3 so the links point to a single subfolder, or did you just get a bunch of archive DVDs that were copied off a server somewhere? If the latter, you're probably toast since the links will be looking for a specific path that you can't duplicate, even if you can get ID to recognize the correct name. The only way this is likely to work is if all the links are in the same path as the document.
You'd think that CS5 could flawlessly open a CS3 file, but there are plenty of reports of cases where it doesn't. Opening a .inx file generated from CS3 is more reliable, and has the added benefit that all the text will recompose using the new engine as soon as the file opens, so you don't get rude surprises after you start to edit.
If you have CS3, and the links are found, try the export.
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8. Re: IDCS5 Mac: Missing links when converting IDCS3 document from PC
Mr. Andersson Oct 15, 2010 2:45 PM (in response to P Spier)CS3 can open the files as is.
Why wouldn't CS5, a program from the same developing company, that states that CS5 actually can convert CS3 files, be able to read the same thing as the CS3 program?
* open file
* file is cs3 format
* use path info as cs3 do it
* convert and open file
??
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9. Re: IDCS5 Mac: Missing links when converting IDCS3 document from PC
BobLevine Oct 15, 2010 2:50 PM (in response to Mr. Andersson)Open it in CS3.
Select all the links in the links panel and from the panel menu choose copy links to. Copy them to the same folder the INDD file is in.
Do a file>save as to remove any extra info from the file.
Close the file and then open it in CS5.
As for your question...there have been sporadic reports of this type of problem. There's obviously some kind of bug and we're doing our best to try to help you work around it.
Bob
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10. Re: IDCS5 Mac: Missing links when converting IDCS3 document from PC
Mr. Andersson Oct 15, 2010 2:59 PM (in response to BobLevine)Bob, I will have exactly the same result if I dont do what you are suggesting.
* Open file with CS3 Mac
* Save file
* Open file with CS5 Mac
Problem solved. Links untouched and in the same place as before.
My problem is not that I cant open the files. I can open them using CS3 as a bridge.
My problem is that I want CS5 to open and convert them by itself. In my world this is a bug.
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11. Re: IDCS5 Mac: Missing links when converting IDCS3 document from PC
Mr. Andersson Oct 15, 2010 3:02 PM (in response to Mr. Andersson)Peter,
The files are well organized by the original client.
Brochure 1/
Swedish.indd
English.indd
German.indd
links folder/
image.tif
image.psd
Brochure 2/
Swedish.indd
English.indd
German.indd
links folder/
image.tif
image.psd
... etc
I have dumped it all on our OS X 10.5 Server and I am opening the files from there. I have tried copying folders to my local desktop but the behavior is the same. The links folders are not named as the default Adobe name "Links".
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12. Re: IDCS5 Mac: Missing links when converting IDCS3 document from PC
BobLevine Oct 15, 2010 3:08 PM (in response to Mr. Andersson)Good lord. We're trying to help here and you're ignoring us.
Move the links to the same folder as the INDD file.
Bob
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13. Re: IDCS5 Mac: Missing links when converting IDCS3 document from PC
Mr. Andersson Oct 15, 2010 3:12 PM (in response to BobLevine)"Move the files to the same folder" and then what?
1. Open with CS3
or
2. Open with CS5
I asked this a few posts up but you didn't answer.
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14. Re: IDCS5 Mac: Missing links when converting IDCS3 document from PC
BobLevine Oct 15, 2010 3:17 PM (in response to Mr. Andersson)And then open the INDD file in CS5.
Bob
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15. Re: IDCS5 Mac: Missing links when converting IDCS3 document from PC
Phorna Oct 15, 2010 3:32 PM (in response to Mr. Andersson)Well... you should be happy that you are able to get right result with a little work around.
More problems may appear.
For example:
If you open a CS3 document in CS5 and then you export it to PDF. Some objects on the page may be dislocated in this PDF file. In InDesign everything seems to be OK. So it is really important to check carefully generated PDF that was created from CS3 file converted to CS5.Good Luck!
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16. Re: IDCS5 Mac: Missing links when converting IDCS3 document from PC
Mr. Andersson Oct 15, 2010 4:18 PM (in response to Phorna)Bob,
Moving the linked files did nothing. Same problem.
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17. Re: IDCS5 Mac: Missing links when converting IDCS3 document from PC
Mr. Andersson Oct 15, 2010 4:19 PM (in response to Mr. Andersson)I have noticed that some of these .indd files do work directly with CS5.
How can I see what version of InDesign saved a file?
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18. Re: IDCS5 Mac: Missing links when converting IDCS3 document from PC
P Spier Oct 15, 2010 4:38 PM (in response to Mr. Andersson)Did you try opeing in CS3, exporting to .inx, and opeing the .inx in CS5 as I suggested? I didn't pull that out of my hat, it helps with problem CS3 files being opened in CS5.
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19. Re: IDCS5 Mac: Missing links when converting IDCS3 document from PC
Mr. Andersson Oct 15, 2010 4:42 PM (in response to P Spier)Peter,
Why would I save as .inx when saving as .indd already works?
I'm speaking about CS3 now, not CS5
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20. Re: IDCS5 Mac: Missing links when converting IDCS3 document from PC
P Spier Oct 15, 2010 5:02 PM (in response to Mr. Andersson)Mr. Andersson wrote:
Peter,
Why would I save as .inx when saving as .indd already works?
I'm speaking about CS3 now, not CS5
Because opeing a CS3 .inx file in CS5 can be more reliable than opening CS3 .indd file in CS5.
if you don't want to take the advice, it's up to you, but what you are doing is clearly not working, and saying it should won't make it any better.
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21. Re: IDCS5 Mac: Missing links when converting IDCS3 document from PC
Mr. Andersson Oct 15, 2010 5:15 PM (in response to P Spier)Peter,
Please look at my first post
"If I open the same CS3 files from the PC with CS3 on the Mac it works fine."
Conversion with ID CS3 as a bridge works like a charm.
This is not a problem at all.
I have a working work-around.
* Open with CS3 Mac
* Save the file
* Open the same file with CS5
Now I have the file in CS5 and links are intact.
Problem solved.
I could do the same with an .inx file but I would try that if the indd file came out broken. It is not coming out broken. It works fine.
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22. Re: IDCS5 Mac: Missing links when converting IDCS3 document from PC
P Spier Oct 15, 2010 5:26 PM (in response to Mr. Andersson)I'm sorry, I misunderstood your first post and didn't see that you had reaved and opened in CS5 successfully. Hazards of reading hundreds of posts a day.
I'll stick by may advice to export .inx, instead, though. Not all CS3 files work flawlessly, judging by the stuff we see here, and the recomposition of text before you start to edit is a plus. Perhaps you don't know that CS5 will retain the compostion in a legacy file until you decise to make a change to the frame (even just clicking in the story), then the entire story will recompose using the CS5 text engine. It's highly likely that line endings will change, especially with justified text, and that can lead to oversets or other issues hving to do with keep options. I'd rather get all that taken care of when the file opens.
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23. Re: IDCS5 Mac: Missing links when converting IDCS3 document from PC
Mr. Andersson Oct 16, 2010 12:36 AM (in response to P Spier)Peter,
I didn't know that about CS5 at all. I haven't seen any problems like that yet but better safe than sorry I guess. Thanks.
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24. Re: IDCS5 Mac: Missing links when converting IDCS3 document from PC
P Spier Oct 16, 2010 3:53 AM (in response to Mr. Andersson)The composition change is true for all versions. Legacy text is unchaged until you edit, then the new composer takes over. It isn't mucu of an issue with short docs, but can be a real pain with longer ones.
The .inx route may also help with some output issues moving from CS3 to CS5. I think I remember seeing a few posts where some elemnts failed to print or show in exported PDFs.
I'm not saying you'd have these issues automatically -- I've not seen it personally yet, but I don't convert a lot of my own CS3 work to CS5 -- but I've started using .inx when I make conversions as cheap insurance. More often, though, unless I'm doing a major overhaul, I'd just leave the file in CS3 and make the edits there.




