39 Replies Latest reply on Dec 23, 2010 1:16 PM by Daxman1965

    New System

    Daxman1965 Level 1

      Hi

       

      I am busy building a new system and have the following in mind please help me on my way.

       

      Antec P190 with neolink 1200watt

      Asus P6X58D-E

      6 x 4 GB Corsair GT DDR-2000

      I7 980X

      2 x WD 600GB Veloci Raptor (Raid 0 for OS)

      4x 1 TB Seagate Raid 0 for storage will get raid card later

      GTX 480.

       

      what will I be able to over clock to and what is the best cooling for CPU?

      Is this ram good?

      any other ideas?

       

      Thanks

        • 1. Re: New System
          wb_martin Level 1

          1.2 TB (2 x 600 GB, RAID 0) is a large OS drive, although if you are using it for scratch files too, maybe not.

           

          You might review Harm's discussion on "To RAID or Not to RAID"

          http://forums.adobe.com/thread/525263

           

          and learn more about RAID types/configurations, particularly for your planned 4 x 1TB storage array.  I would consider RAID 3, 5 or 6.

           

          I use a Corsair H70 CPU cooler and am happy with it.

           

          There's a lot of discussion about whether costly high speed memory is really necessary/valuable, particularly with 24 GB memory on your mobo.  You may look for more expert advice on that issue.  Be sure to check the QVL for the mobo to check memory compatibility.

           

          Presumably you're planning on Win7-64 bit as the OS.

           

          Good luck!

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          • 2. Re: New System
            Harm Millaard Level 7

            1. 4.4 GHZ should be reasonably easy. CoolerMaster Hyper 212, Noctua NH-D14, Prolimatech Megahalem, etc.

             

            2. Yes.

             

            3. Get a raid controller ASAP. Otherwise you will run into difficulties in getting your data across to a new array, which will be a major obstacle. A 4 disk raid0 entails quite some risks. I would rather go for a single 150+ GB OS/programs disk and a 5 or 6 disk raid5, although your performance will suffer, since ICHR controllers are pretty lousy with parity raids.

            • 3. Re: New System
              Daxman1965 Level 1

              I was thinking it would give very good performance becuase of the Raid 0 and that the drives are SATA 3 6G interface, I will raid 0 the 4 drives for storage. I can get Seagate 2TB 64mp cache SATA 3 6gps drives for half the price would this be a option for OS.

              • 4. Re: New System
                Daxman1965 Level 1

                Thanks Harm,

                 

                dont you think a SATA3 6gps is better ? the 600 raptor is a SATA3 and the 150 is only SATA 2.

                 

                thanks

                Darren

                • 5. Re: New System
                  Harm Millaard Level 7

                  There is no way that a single disk will be limited by a SATA2 connector. SATA3 is mostly hype and all about theoretical bandwidth, but in practice it shows no benefits in throughput. The one advantage of some SATA3 drives is the larger cache, 64 MB versus 32 MB, but that is all. Even with large arrays there is no difference in performance between SATA2 and SATA3, because the PCI-e bus is the limiting factor.

                   

                  It is about the same with USB2 and USB3. Theoretically USB3 is way faster, but in practice USB3 disks are only 2-3 times faster than USB2, because of the congestion on the USB bus and the sharing of resources, at least from the reports I have read.

                  • 6. Re: New System
                    Daxman1965 Level 1

                    OK great, save me some bucks one disk it is.

                     

                    thanks

                     

                    Harm

                    • 7. Re: New System
                      Daxman1965 Level 1

                      Hi Harm,

                       

                      some more advice please. I can get a Intel Big Laurel RS2BL080 8 channel 6G SAS Raid 512MB at a decent price is this ok as I cant find the one you use in South Africa. What HDD do you recomend to use for the raid setup size and make.

                       

                      thanks again

                       

                      Darren

                      • 8. Re: New System
                        JCschild Level 3

                        i would recommend that card over the areca purely for price/performance.

                        i honestly see no point to the Areca cards over that one

                         

                        Scott

                        ADK

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                        • 9. Re: New System
                          Harm Millaard Level 7

                          Scott,

                           

                          I agree with you for out of the box controllers, but you disregard the capabilities of the Areca to:

                           

                          1. Increase cache memory to 4 Gb, which the Intel can't and this makes a significant difference,

                           

                          2. The ability to add a BBM (battery backup module) to the Areca, and

                           

                          3. The support of Raid3/30 which the Intel does not have.

                          • 10. Re: New System
                            Daxman1965 Level 1

                            Harm

                             

                            thanks, I have just checked the wholesalers pricelist and they do have a "smart battery" for the card.  what hard drives do you recommend and what size.

                             

                            thanks

                             

                            Darren

                            • 11. Re: New System
                              Harm Millaard Level 7

                              I would suggest the WD RE4 (bit costly) or the Samsung F3, both in 1 TB sizes. Another option is the Seagate 7200.12.

                              • 12. Re: New System
                                Daxman1965 Level 1

                                thanks Harm

                                • 13. Re: New System
                                  ECBowen Most Valuable Participant

                                  " 2. The ability to add a BBM (battery backup module) to the Areca"

                                   

                                  The Intel card does have the BBM connector as well.

                                   

                                  Eric

                                  ADK

                                  • 14. Re: New System
                                    Daxman1965 Level 1

                                    Thanks

                                    Harm, WB Martin, Scott and Eric,

                                     

                                    i wanted to purchase one on thursday and now they don't have stock. I start my new build today as I have all the other parts. only the HDD and raid card are missing.

                                     

                                    this is what I have got,

                                     

                                    Antec P190 with neolink

                                    Asus P6X58D-E

                                    6 x 4 gig Corsair dominator gt ram ddr3 2000

                                    1 x WD 600 gig Velociraptor (no stock of the 150)

                                    Gigabyte 480 GTX

                                    Corsair H70 water cooler

                                    1  x seagate 1 Tb (had this laying around will use just to get system going)

                                    1 x LG Blu-ray

                                     

                                    will get the intal raid card and drives in the next week or two. I can only get seagate 1 Tb 7200.12no stock of samsung and WD

                                     

                                    thanks and I will give feed back once machine is completed

                                     

                                    Darren

                                    • 15. Re: New System
                                      Daxman1965 Level 1

                                      Hi

                                       

                                      I have put the machine together and it is great so far. Can any body give me the settings for the asus mobo and 980x to overclock and how to do it.

                                       

                                      thanks

                                       

                                      Darren

                                      • 16. Re: New System
                                        wb_martin Level 1

                                        Check out these links:

                                         

                                        a general guide for overclocking:

                                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Cu0I2ITDQg&feature=related

                                         

                                        and board-specific information here:

                                        http://vip.asus.com/forum/topic.aspx?board_id=1&model=P6X58D-E&SLanguage=en-us

                                         

                                        I would suggest routine consult of the latter link.....good luck!

                                        • 18. Re: New System
                                          Daxman1965 Level 1

                                          thanks wb-martin, it looks too new for me but I will keep on trying.

                                           

                                          thanks

                                           

                                          Darren

                                          • 19. Re: New System
                                            Daxman1965 Level 1

                                            Hi,

                                             

                                            the machine is up and running,

                                             

                                            this is the final spec:

                                             

                                            Antec P190 with neo link 1200w

                                            Asus P6X58D-E

                                            24 gig Corsair Dominator GT Ram 2000

                                            Gigabyte GTX 480

                                            600 gig WD Velciraptor for OS Win 7 64 bit ultimate

                                            1 TB seagate for Music and Digtal juice and so on

                                            Intel RS2BL080 Raid Controller

                                            8 x Samsung F3 (well 4 should get the other on Monday)

                                            LG Blu-Ray

                                            few extra Fans

                                            4 drives are in a Coolermaster 3 to 4 cage with fan.

                                             

                                            any suggestions on the raid setup would be appreciated.

                                             

                                            Darren

                                            • 20. Re: New System
                                              Harm Millaard Level 7

                                              Darren,

                                               

                                              I suggest either an 8-disk raid5 or raid6 or a 7-disk raid5 with one hot-spare.

                                              • 21. Re: New System
                                                Daxman1965 Level 1

                                                thanks Harm

                                                • 22. Re: New System
                                                  Jay Knobbe Level 1

                                                  wb martin...

                                                   

                                                  how do you like the h70 cooler?

                                                   

                                                  I looked at the h50 and h70. Some reviews said the h50 wasn't much improvment over stock and the h70 had lots of fan noise, etc.

                                                   

                                                  What has your experience been?

                                                  • 23. Re: New System
                                                    wb_martin Level 1

                                                    Hi Jay,

                                                    So far, I like the H70 cooler.  When I have monitored/checked temperatures, the CPU olds at 26 deg. C., and is pretty stable at that temperature, but I am not overclocking yet which is sure to put a thermal load on the processor and the ASUS Rampage III Formula mobo with 24GB onboard in general. 

                                                    I built the system in the CoolerMaster HAF-X case, and I added an extra 120mm fan to the top of the case for improved airflow.   I am only using one graphics adapter - the superclocked eVGA GeForce 470 and I haven't optimized the system fan speeds yet, so I haven't optimized system noise yet - that's all forthcoming.

                                                     

                                                    Overall, I am happy with the H70.  It has a small footprint in size - I haven't had problems with space issues inside the HAF-X as some people have reported.

                                                     

                                                    Hope this helps.  Good luck!

                                                    Bill