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1. Re: Ideal Codec/Format for Complicated Project
Colin Brougham Nov 10, 2010 6:48 AM (in response to Jhvegas)In the past, I would bring all the footage into AME and batch convert it to the relevant Matrox codecs. Now, I don't know what to use!
Don't use "anything;" just edit the files as they are. Premiere works great with most native professional formats, so all you need to do is import and go to work. You probably did the transfer-dance before with Matrox in order to get real-time capabilities, but since it sounds like you're leaving Matrox behind (good choice, IMO), you don't need to follow that workflow any longer.
The bigger question is deciding on a sequence preset to use--you want one that works with the frame size, frame rate, field order, etc., of your source footage. However, it sounds like you're already set in that regard.
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2. Re: Ideal Codec/Format for Complicated Project
Jhvegas Nov 10, 2010 7:33 AM (in response to Colin Brougham)I had to smile when you said 'professional formats'!
I am really dealing with the bottom of the barrel, whatever comes natively off the cameras (if they're digital) or ripping them myself from dvd and/or vob. I think I've yet to receive a professional format.
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3. Re: Ideal Codec/Format for Complicated Project
Colin Brougham Nov 10, 2010 7:47 AM (in response to Jhvegas)I am really dealing with the bottom of the barrel, whatever comes natively off the cameras (if they're digital) or ripping them myself from dvd and/or vob. I think I've yet to receive a professional format.
Ha! OK, I see.
Well, Premiere still may be able to deal with whatever you have coming in, without the need to transcode. You'll have to take it on a case-by-case basis, testing as you go. I like Avid's DNxHD codecs (available freely for PC and Mac) for formats that don't play nicely in their native form in Premiere. MPEG Streamclip is a great tool for those conversions.
Premiere will work natively with DVD VOBs, so need to convert there, either.
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4. Re: Ideal Codec/Format for Complicated Project
JaysonM-Y Nov 10, 2010 3:57 PM (in response to Colin Brougham)Colin Brougham wrote:
Premiere will work natively with DVD VOBs, so need to convert there, either.
....Sometimes.
Those VOBs can randomly be a pain.
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5. Re: Ideal Codec/Format for Complicated Project
Powered by Design Nov 10, 2010 6:32 PM (in response to Jhvegas)If your going to bring all you footage to a HD sequence then you might want to use Red Giants Magic Bullet Instant HD to up-convert your DV to HD.
I havent used it but allot here says its good.
http://www.redgiantsoftware.com/products/all/magic-bullet-instant-hd/
GLenn
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6. Re: Ideal Codec/Format for Complicated Project
Harm Millaard Nov 11, 2010 1:37 AM (in response to Powered by Design)Glenn, that applies to the Pro version. It has a good reputation, but the non-Pro version does not fare so well from what I have read.
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7. Re: Ideal Codec/Format for Complicated Project
Powered by Design Nov 11, 2010 2:42 AM (in response to Harm Millaard)Thats interesting Harm.
I have only heard of people talking and thought this is what they were talking bout.
What is the PRO version.
I dont see any links to anything that says PRO.
Are you talking about the version inside Suite 10 ?
GLenn
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8. Re: Ideal Codec/Format for Complicated Project
Jhvegas Nov 11, 2010 6:52 AM (in response to Jhvegas)So - is there a consensus on the value of upconverting before premiere? My (gut) feeling is that for most SD source I get (again, not pro) there would be no quality gain - would there be a performance gain?
There would obviously be more disk overhead (larger files), but it would be worth it if there was a gain in performance in the workflow.
Thoughts?
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9. Re: Ideal Codec/Format for Complicated Project
Powered by Design Nov 11, 2010 12:30 PM (in response to Jhvegas)I dont like to up-convert anything really.
I shoot in HDV but then down-convert since my final product is SD.
The only reason to up-convert is if you need something and it must be HD. And even then it really isnt HD
Most time I see people just use the SD inside the HD without up-converting but then just fill the rest of the screen with whatever.
I guess it really comes down to what your final product will be.
GLenn
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10. Re: Ideal Codec/Format for Complicated Project
Jhvegas Dec 14, 2010 9:39 AM (in response to Powered by Design)So,
When you get avchd footage (which I just got a boatload of), which certainly doesn't play well with premiere (performance/monitoring wise), what's a simple format to convert it to (read: best performing editing format).
I've tried h.264 with defaults, and seems to be working - is there a better solution?
Thanks in advance,
J
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11. Re: Ideal Codec/Format for Complicated Project
Bill Hunt Dec 14, 2010 10:31 AM (in response to Jhvegas)If you are having issues with AVCHD material, it is likely an issue with the CPU not being fast enough to decode that material, when used natively in CS5.
You might want to explore Cineform Neoscene for that footage.
Good luck,
Hunt






