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1. Re: Nonbreaking Spaces causing strange line breaks
BobLevine Jan 24, 2011 11:43 AM (in response to ascript_guy)Can't see the pic in an email, but do you have a language assigned?
Bob
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2. Re: Nonbreaking Spaces causing strange line breaks
P Spier Jan 24, 2011 11:47 AM (in response to ascript_guy)It certainly LOOKS as if it should have broken befor library, and there's no indication of a non-joiner or other special character that would break without a hyphen. Is No Break also applied to any of this text?
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3. Re: Nonbreaking Spaces causing strange line breaks
ascript_guy Jan 24, 2011 11:55 AM (in response to BobLevine)Just "English: USA"
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4. Re: Nonbreaking Spaces causing strange line breaks
ascript_guy Jan 24, 2011 11:58 AM (in response to P Spier)No, "No Break" seems to be my only option to fix this. But when "No Break" is assigned to text the interface doesn't make it obvious for another user (who is making corrections); I was trying to avoid that option.
Is this a bug that should be reported?
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5. Re: Nonbreaking Spaces causing strange line breaks
P Spier Jan 24, 2011 12:14 PM (in response to ascript_guy)So far there's no real evidence that it IS a bug.
What version of ID ID are you using? OS? What font?
What happens if you change the width of the text frame or change the font? What about if you follow the directions here: Remove minor corruption by exporting
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6. Re: Nonbreaking Spaces causing strange line breaks
David W. Goodrich Jan 24, 2011 12:53 PM (in response to ascript_guy)I frequently use a character style named "NoBreak" implementing that attribute only. If I wanted to make it obvious to others working on a project I might change the definition to apply a text color or unique underline as well -- features I could remove when the project was close to completion by restoring "NoBreak" to just that attribute. (I'd probably use a color -- most of my work is b&w, so a color would show up when I check for unwanted colors.)
Or for IDCS4 you could use Marc Autret's very handy ShowHideLocalFormatting script, as NoBreak is among the attributes it highlights.
In any case, I'm somewhat wary of using non-breaking spaces to move line-breaks, having received a bunch of MS Word mss. where they were liberally sprinkled, apparently unbeknownst to author or editor. When I see one my first impulse is to turn them all into regular spaces.
David
Message was edited by: David W. Goodrich (typos)
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7. Re: Nonbreaking Spaces causing strange line breaks
ascript_guy Jan 24, 2011 1:25 PM (in response to P Spier)Tested on multiple systems.
InDesign CS4 but the same thing happens in CS5
Mac OS 10.5.8 w/Intel chip and 10.5.8 w/Power PC chip
Font: Avenir LT Std (Opentype) using Suitcase Fusion 2 and FontAgent Pro
As I increase the width of the text frame, each letter of the word comes up (Libra, Librar, Library). However, other things break incorrectly ("ISBN") when I do that.
If I changed the non-breaking space after "Library" to a normal space then all of "Library" drops down the next line.
I did try your suggestion re. trash InDesign Prefs and export as .inx, as well as .idml, with no joy.
Why isn't the hyphenation engine of InDesigned getting involved? -
8. Re: Nonbreaking Spaces causing strange line breaks
P Spier Jan 24, 2011 1:33 PM (in response to ascript_guy)I'd like to look at this file, and I suspect a couple of the other regulars would, too. It's not certain we can figure out what's going on, but at this point I don't see a lot of use to speculating based on a screen shot.
If the file is not confidential you could package a few test pages and zip, then post on a server someplace and put a link here. If you prefer to keep it private, put the link in a private message (click my name to go to my profile to send a PM). If you don't have a server available any file sharing service will work -- I use YouSendIt.com, but a lot of the others are using DropBox. For yousendit, send it to yourself, then post the link.
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9. Re: Nonbreaking Spaces causing strange line breaks
ascript_guy Jan 24, 2011 1:41 PM (in response to P Spier)Let me check with my customer.
Don Rossi
Donnelley Premedia
717.669.0157
Peter Spier <forums@adobe.com>
01/24/11 04:33 PM
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I'd like to look at this file, and I suspect a couple of the other
regulars would, too. It's not certain we can figure out what's going on,
but at this point I don't see a lot of use to speculating based on a
screen shot.
If the file is not confidential you could package a few test pages and
zip, then post on a server someplace and put a link here. If you prefer to
keep it private, put the link in a private message (click my name to go to
my profile to send a PM). If you don't have a server available any file
sharing service will work -- I use YouSendIt.com, but a lot of the others
are using DropBox. For yousendit, send it to yourself, then post the link.




