22 Replies Latest reply: Mar 23, 2011 9:30 AM by sologuy RSS

    Fit Screen Covers Window's Taskbar in CS4

    Dr Missile Community Member

      Does anyone know how to prevent the "fit screen with menus" display mode from covering the windows task-bar? This is disastrous for me since I draw on a Cintique and need to position my art where it's comfortable for me to make the desired marks. Fitting to screen allows for this but covers my task-bar... and subsequently Skype messages from my clients... and new mail... and calendar alarms. This was not the case in CS3 :'(  -  I do not have auto-hide on my task-bar enabled.

       

      Thanks in advance, guys.

        • 1. Re: Fit Screen Covers Window's Taskbar in CS4
          Marek Mularczyk Community Member

          What about the option - "Keep the Taskbar on top of other windows" ?

           

          taskbar.jpg

          • 2. Re: Fit Screen Covers Window's Taskbar in CS4
            Zeno Bokor CommunityMVP

            Nope, won't help. This is just how the CS4/5 interface works.

            • 3. Re: Fit Screen Covers Window's Taskbar in CS4
              John Joslin Community Member

              Another weird thing, since CS4, is that the contents of the PS window don't show in theTaskbar Thumbnail previews.


              • 4. Re: Fit Screen Covers Window's Taskbar in CS4
                Zeno Bokor CommunityMVP

                They've fixed that in CS5

                • 5. Re: Fit Screen Covers Window's Taskbar in CS4
                  John Joslin Community Member

                  Well, sort of!

                   

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                  • 6. Re: Fit Screen Covers Window's Taskbar in CS4
                    Noel Carboni Community Member

                    That's how it's supposed to work (referring to the Taskbar Live Preview Thumbnails shown just above).

                     

                    In Tabbed view mode it whould show as one app with the image in it.

                     

                    When you choose to open documents in windowed mode, you'll see a separate preview window for each image open, allowing you to use the OS Taskbar capabilities to navigate between open windows.  It's really quite nice.

                     

                    -Noel

                    • 7. Re: Fit Screen Covers Window's Taskbar in CS4
                      instalkom2 Community Member

                      I'm actually having a lot of trouble navigating between windows in OS taskbar.

                       

                      In CS4 you could clearly see the documents name withing in the program. In CS5 you can't see anything:cs5.jpg

                      or here: http://www.imageno.com/jcv64l07lu0epic.html

                       

                      The solution could be doubling the size of the OS taskbar - but i personaly hate it :-))

                       

                      Is there any way how to keep floating documents withing CS5?

                       

                      -John

                      • 8. Re: Fit Screen Covers Window's Taskbar in CS4
                        Dr Missile Community Member

                        Sorry, I should have mentioned the "keep task-bar on top of other windows" is already enabled. I'm guessing it actually lives somewhere in the registry - any clues on where it might reside would be greatly appreciated.

                        • 9. Re: Fit Screen Covers Window's Taskbar in CS4
                          Dr Missile Community Member

                          Bump... Hoping someone has figured this out.

                          • 10. Re: Fit Screen Covers Window's Taskbar in CS4
                            Noel Carboni Community Member

                            My suggestion:  Don't run Photoshop in full-screen mode.  Make it "almost" full screen by positioning and sizing the window carefully.

                             

                            Personally I also prefer setting the Taskbar to Auto-Hide.

                             

                            -Noel

                            • 11. Re: Fit Screen Covers Window's Taskbar in CS4
                              Noel Carboni Community Member

                              By the way, I have read of a workaround application for Windows 7, but never tried it myself:

                               

                              http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/54842-taskbar-always-top-disable-enable.html

                               

                              -Noel

                              • 12. Re: Fit Screen Covers Window's Taskbar in CS4
                                MTSTUNER Community Member

                                Could you post a screenshot?

                                 

                                 

                                Oh, i guess you meant full screen with menu bar and how

                                going to full screen makes the windows taskbar disappear?

                                 

                                 

                                 

                                MTSTUNER

                                 

                                Message was edited by: MTSTUNER

                                • 13. Re: Fit Screen Covers Window's Taskbar in CS4
                                  MTSTUNER Community Member

                                  Also which version of windows?

                                   

                                   

                                   

                                   

                                  MTSTUNER

                                  • 14. Re: Fit Screen Covers Window's Taskbar in CS4
                                    Dr Missile Community Member

                                    Hey Noel, I know you're well intentioned but I'm looking for a solution to the problem, not suggestions as how to operate windows or Photoshop. I probably should have clarified my knowledge of PS in the original post so as to not have wasted your time making basic software operation suggestions. I am a very experienced user and have lived in PS for the better part of a decade professionally, and casually since version 2. I say this not to be coy, but to offer a bit more info to you guys as to my level of windows and PS experience .

                                     

                                    As fit screen has been rendered significantly less useful by the fact that it occludes email mail prompts, skype messages, calendar alerts, time, firefox download status, Maya render status, task manager, and other vital information I'm forgetting to mention that's displayed in the task bar, I operate PS as you suggest, in window mode - which I quite passionately hate ...  The benefit that fit screen mode holds over windowed mode is that it allows you to pan the image freely. Ergonomically speaking this is far superior to windowed (which only  allows free panning if the image is displayed larger than the window.. WTF, right?).  Why is this ergonomically superior you ask? because it allows you to have the  edges of the image centered in your screen, if that is the part of the  image that you desire working on.

                                     

                                    Soooo, if we could stay on the subject of making fit screen notcover the task bar, then this thread would be much more useful for me.

                                     

                                    HOWEVER, I do appreciate the link to the ‘always on top’ thing ... I’ll definitely try that out!

                                     

                                    And just for clarification, this problem exists on both xp and windows 7- all versions i have personally tried.

                                    • 15. Re: Fit Screen Covers Window's Taskbar in CS4
                                      Dr Missile Community Member

                                      So the 'always on top' thing is actually a 'disable always on top' thing which is the opposite of what I want. oh well.

                                      • 16. Re: Fit Screen Covers Window's Taskbar in CS4
                                        Noel Carboni Community Member

                                        Thank you for making it clear you're a power Photoshop user.

                                         

                                        Keep in mind that there may be no way to make it work exactly the way you want.  I suspect the Adobe engineers got requests to make Photoshop the only thing visible on the screen in Full Screen mode.  They probably figure you can just Maximize the application if you want it to leave room for the Taskbar, and that works just fine as far as I can see.

                                         

                                        So, like it or not, you may have to make some changes in the way you work to keep the ability to do what you want (use Photoshop AND see the Taskbar).  I doubt very seriously Adobe is going to change their UI at this point.

                                         

                                        I perceive that what you want isn't so different from what I like - to be able to see part of my desktop.  In your case you like to keep your eye on the Taskbar.  In mine I keep two rows of icons, one across the top and one across the bottom of my main monitor.  I choose to use Photoshop in Windowed mode precisely because I want to be able to get to those icons to start other things, as well as see my Taskbar as needed.

                                         

                                        So you see, my suggestion wasn't all that off base.

                                         

                                        What's wrong with using Photoshop as a Window instead of in Full Screen mode?

                                         

                                        -Noel

                                        • 17. Re: Fit Screen Covers Window's Taskbar in CS4
                                          Dr Missile Community Member

                                          The benefit that fit screen mode holds over windowed mode is that it  allows you to pan the image freely, and past the edge of the image regardless of the zoom size of the image on screen.  this allows you to position the image where it is most physically comfortable to work on - center screen.

                                           

                                          Ergonomically this is superior to windowed, which only allows panning past the edge of the image if it is  displayed larger than the window, meaning that the edges fall off screen at that particular zoom percentage. it allows you to have the edges of the image centered in your screen even when fits on screen entirely. Windowed does not allow for this.

                                           

                                          If I'm working at the lower left corner of my image and I have to constantly look to the lower left corner of my large monitor because PS won't allow me to pan the corner to the center of the screen, then I do my mortal body a disservice.

                                           

                                          if it didn't need to be zoomed in like this to pan the edges of the doc to be centered in my window, then window mode would be fine-ish.

                                           

                                          To your point about having to make changes to the way I work, that is exactly what I do, gritting my teeth all the while, and photoshop is the worse for wear to the extent that I use it. My current workflow ( which is far from ideal ) is that I work in windowed mode and have to zoom in to the image, to the point where it is too big to be displayed in its entirety on-screen. then, and only then can I pan past the edge. It's quite tedious, and remains a problem so many months after my original post.

                                           

                                          One final note, having the taskbar autohide does nothing to fix the issue as positioning the cursor at the bottom of the screen in fit screen mode does not force the taskbar to show. For all discussion moving forward, lets just pretend my request is valid regardless of what Adobe enginerrs may or may not do.

                                           

                                          Please pardon my grumpiness, I literally have a sore neck from looking at the lower left of my screen.

                                          • 18. Re: Fit Screen Covers Window's Taskbar in CS4
                                            Noel Carboni Community Member

                                            I never implied your request is invalid, but it is based on working around another problem, as you point out.  Your observation about overscrolling is right on.

                                             

                                            You'll note I asked just the other day (for a second time) about overscrolling myself:  http://forums.adobe.com/thread/789950

                                             

                                            So you see, we are of one mind.  Disappointingly, it's no better in CS5, by the way.

                                             

                                            -Noel

                                            • 19. Re: Fit Screen Covers Window's Taskbar in CS4
                                              dec9 Community Member

                                              View, screen mode. Then choose fit screen with menu bar. The photo is still centered on the screen.

                                              Then tap the widows key on the keyboard to show the Windows task bar. However, When working on the photo the task bar will go away and the windows key has to be tapped again.

                                              • 20. Re: Fit Screen Covers Window's Taskbar in CS4
                                                Dr Missile Community Member

                                                Oh! that whould be almost just as good! gonna bump your post.

                                                • 21. Re: Fit Screen Covers Window's Taskbar in CS4
                                                  Dr Missile Community Member

                                                  I would prefer a solution that didn't require constant maintenance. I tend to get into a groove when I work in PS and forget to check things like mail unless I'm prompted.

                                                  • 22. Re: Fit Screen Covers Window's Taskbar in CS4
                                                    sologuy

                                                    [Edit] - Sorry didn't read the first post clearly "full screen with menus".

                                                    However, I was having problems with Photoshop always covering up my taskbar and this was the fix for it.

                                                     

                                                     

                                                    - Put Photshop in fullscreen mode

                                                    - Alt-Tab out of the program so that the taskbar is visible again

                                                    - Right click > Properties for taskbar

                                                    - Turn ON auto hide and apply

                                                    - Turn OFF auto hide and apply

                                                     

                                                    This fixed the issue for me.